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January 9, 2018 9:41 am  

You need to consider your build number...

macOS-eGPU.sh on GitHub (fr34k's macOS-eGPU.sh on eGPU.io)
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January 9, 2018 9:55 am  

what do you mean?


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January 9, 2018 10:34 am  

If you're on 10.13.2 there are two builds 17C88 and 17C89. You need to get the right driver package and the correct .kext

macOS-eGPU.sh on GitHub (fr34k's macOS-eGPU.sh on eGPU.io)
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January 9, 2018 11:19 am  
Posted by: fr34k

If you're on 10.13.2 there are two builds 17C88 and 17C89. You need to get the right driver package and the correct .kext

Do you know maybe how much time we will wait for 10.13.3 version? 


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January 9, 2018 11:24 am  

10.13.3 beta 3 has been seeded on 3rd Jan, let's say there will be around 5-6 betas (give or take) betas get seeded in a 14d cycle so approx on 30-31 Jan or 13-14 Feb

+ time it takes to update the kexts and drivers...

macOS-eGPU.sh on GitHub (fr34k's macOS-eGPU.sh on eGPU.io)
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January 9, 2018 2:16 pm  

Also note that the recent “supplemental update” that patches the spectre vulnerability changes the build number and there aren’t updated Nvidia drivers yet


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Posted by: fr34k

10.13.3 beta 3 has been seeded on 3rd Jan, let's say there will be around 5-6 betas (give or take) betas get seeded in a 14d cycle so approx on 30-31 Jan or 13-14 Feb

+ time it takes to update the kexts and drivers...

So I can only format mac to 10.13.2 for now? 


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January 9, 2018 3:27 pm  

Posted by: ricosuave0922
Also note that the recent “supplemental update” that patches the spectre vulnerability changes the build number and there aren’t updated Nvidia drivers yet

 

 

Ahhh that explains everything. Will wait for nvidia then.  😀 


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January 9, 2018 8:11 pm  

Adding an update to my issue

Success!  MBP 13"+TB and a Mantiz Venus eGPU with a GTX 1080 reference card.

I managed to get it working thanks to some good suggestions from my previous post recommending I try disabling SIP then re-enabling without kext.  The issue I had was monitors were being recognized, but black, and only displaying the mouse.  The above recommendation is what got it working for me.  Please update the 1st page with my success to the list.  Thanks!  Here's hoping soon there will be actual support for NVIDIA cards with plug and play support.  So many kernel panics now...  🙁

13" mbp w/touch bar - OSX 10.13.5 - NVIDIA GTX1080 - Mantiz Venus eGPU


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January 10, 2018 6:36 am  

 Not working in 10.13.2 (17C205). Anyone have a fix for this one? Web Drivers are already out.


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January 10, 2018 10:32 am  

New Nvidia drivers -  https://images.nvidia.com/mac/pkg/378/WebDriver-378.10.10.10.25.104.pkg - and the updated file.

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January 10, 2018 11:01 am  

Hi,

I am trying with MB pro 2017 15'' with the latest supplemental update (10.13.2 (17C205)). Using the released web driver just released [1]. For eGPU enclosure, I'm using Titan Xp with Akitio Node eGPU enclosure.

My issue is I can't get the OS to detect my GPU. I followed the steps and troubleshooting and still nothing. Did anyone achieve success with my config/specs? Any suggestions/help would be most welcome.

Thanks so much for your helpful forum.

 

 

Ref:

1. NVIDIA Alternate Graphics Drivers for macOS 10.13.2 + Supplemental Update (17C205)
https://images.nvidia.com/mac/pkg/378/WebDriver-378.10.10.10.25.104.pkg


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January 10, 2018 12:05 pm  
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Posted by: fr34k

10.13.3 beta 3 has been seeded on 3rd Jan, let's say there will be around 5-6 betas (give or take) betas get seeded in a 14d cycle so approx on 30-31 Jan or 13-14 Feb

+ time it takes to update the kexts and drivers...

So I can only format mac to 10.13.2 for now? 

yes, unless you are part of the developer or public beta community

macOS-eGPU.sh on GitHub (fr34k's macOS-eGPU.sh on eGPU.io)
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January 10, 2018 12:06 pm  

Hi,

Just to confirm, I was able to make the above steps work with my specs (MBPro 2017 15'' with Akitio node eGPU, Titan Xp). 🙂

Titan Xp is detected, however, the only thing is the default graphics card is not switched from AMD Raedon to Titan. 


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Posted by: hypnagogic

Hi,

Just to confirm, I was able to make the above steps work with my specs (MBPro 2017 15'' with Akitio node eGPU, Titan Xp). 🙂

Titan Xp is detected, however, the only thing is the default graphics card is not switched from AMD Raedon to Titan. 

Are you using external monitor or trying to accelerate the internal screen? 

https://egpu.io/forums/mac-setup/tutorials-answers-to-frequently-asked-questions/


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January 10, 2018 3:14 pm  

Hi,

just talked with the Apple Support. As far as the Mac-Support-Employee could tell (after looking into their internal Message System), they have a NVIDIA-eGPU Thread and there are people working on it, but there is no information, when their work will be available for us to use.

Nevertheless I bought the AORUS Gaming Box 1080 today and I will try to get it running with my 2017 MBPro 15". Sadly the box won't arrive until 18.01


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January 10, 2018 4:29 pm  

Thanks!


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January 10, 2018 6:14 pm  

I am confirming that on my previously working MacBook Pro 13" and my iMac Pro, with the latest Apple security update (17C2205) and with the very latest *.104 web drivers, the GPU is no longer detected by macOS. 🙁

 

 


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January 10, 2018 7:01 pm  

Thank you!


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January 11, 2018 12:43 am  

Success!

Early 2011 Macbook Pro 15", Akitio Node, Using Apple Thunderbolt2 + 2/3 Converter cable. nVidia 970.

https://egpu.io/forums/builds/early-2011-15-macbook-pro-akitio-node-nvidia-gtx-970-macos-10-13-2/


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January 11, 2018 5:46 am  

So far haven't been able to get this working using a few different setups, from most of the threads I've been looking at(excluding this one) it looks like high sierra TB2 + dGPU + eGPU just doesn't work anymore  

Hardware: 

  • MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2014) + NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M
  • Matiz Venus + Gigabyte 970
  • apple TB2->TB3 + apple TB2 cable
  • 1 Dell Ultrasharp 23" monitor (eventually will be 2 or 3)

Software:

  • High Sierra 10 . 13 . 2 (17C205)
  • Nvidia Webdriver v378 . 10 . 10 . 10 . 25 . 104 (current latest version)
  • 4316-NVDAEGPUSupport-v4-SU

Setup method:

  1. install nvidia web drivers + restart
  2. recovery mode -> disable SIP + restart
  3. Install the package linked above + restart
  4. recovery mode -> enable SIP + restart

Tried out a couple of different methods to startup with eGPU support, all of these were with no peripherals connected to the macbook

  1. Normal method
    1. Logout without eGPU attached
    2. Attach eGPU and wait for something to happen (usually just fans spin up)
    3. Login & look at system report
      1. eGPU + its USB hub is detected
      2. Graphics section is stuck loading forever Also just looking at the 'about my mac' section no longer displays which GPUs are available
  2.  Backup solution
    1. Logging in without the eGPU attached
    2. Plugging in the eGPU (check in system profiler that it is detected)
      1. NOTE: what I see is that while the eGPU enclosure + its extra USB ports are detected there is an issue with the List of graphics . It is stuck essentially forever loading 
    3. Logging out and logging in again
  3. Some crazy method i saw recommended using bootloader menu
    1. Turn off computer without eGPU connected
    2. Boot computer while holding option/alt key
    3. Select MacintoshHD while inserting TB2 cable into laptop at the same . This results in one of:
      1. Freezing at the apple logo while CPU fan goes crazy
      2. Black screen while CPU fan goes crazy
      3. Enter having no affect while trying to select MacintoshHD while CPU fan goes crazy

 

Looks like either I'm missing something or this is no longer a supported.  

 

p . s . the regex for removing links seems like it could use a bit of polish, so many things removed that were not links, no idea what they originally were

 

Edit 1:

- I am using an encrypted APFS filesystem. I finally got it to kind of recognize that i have something plugged in. What I did is:

  1. shutdown the computer with eGPU detached
  2. Startup up computer
  3. Enter password to decrypt harddrive
  4. ~50% through decryption I plugged in my eGPU TB2 cable

I cant seem to figure out how to post screenshots (my links keep getting removed) so I posted the result from the system report below. I still cannot use my external monitor (was originally connected using DVI(monitor)->HDMI (gpu) but now is DVI->DVI. I'll probably try DP -> DP next and see if that helps. 

Chipset Model: NVIDIA Chip Model
Type: GPU
Bus: PCIe
PCIe Lane Width: x4
Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de)
Device ID: 0x13c2
Revision ID: 0x00a1
ROM Revision: preset 1.0.0
Automatic Graphics Switching: Supported
gMux Version: 4.0.8 [3.2.8]
Metal: Supported, feature set macOS GPUFamily1 v3

According a quick lookup of device_id 0x13c2 it appears it is indeed my 970, you can see below for information about the 750M to confirm it is different

Chipset Model: NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M
Type: GPU
Bus: PCIe
PCIe Lane Width: x8
VRAM (Total): 2 GB
Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de)
Device ID: 0x0fe9
Revision ID: 0x00a2
ROM Revision: 3776
Automatic Graphics Switching: Supported
gMux Version: 4.0.8 [3.2.8]
Metal: Supported, feature set macOS GPUFamily1 v3

Possibly bad notable thing is that in the NVidia driver manager it does not seem to show up as a device I'll continue seeing what comes out of the different setups, eventually I'll post a build guide (if it ever works)


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January 11, 2018 7:25 am  

Returned the gargantuan HP Omen and 1060 3GB, and just got an Aorus 1080 (ITX style) eGPU enclosure. Works just as smoothly while taking up less than half the space!


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January 11, 2018 11:52 am  

Just wanted to say a big THANK YOU for continuing to create the patches and make NVIDIA eGPUs work with macOS. Installed the latest version after the supplemental update and all working.

2013 MacPro 2xD700 2xGTX980Ti@16Gbps-TB2 (AKiTiO Thunder2) + macOS 10.13.3
2017 TB MBP 2xGTX1080Ti-TB3 (Akitio Node) + macOS 10.13.4


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January 11, 2018 3:47 pm  
Posted by: TheOkeland

Hi,

just talked with the Apple Support. As far as the Mac-Support-Employee could tell (after looking into their internal Message System), they have a NVIDIA-eGPU Thread and there are people working on it, but there is no information, when their work will be available for us to use.

Nevertheless I bought the AORUS Gaming Box 1080 today and I will try to get it running with my 2017 MBPro 15". Sadly the box won't arrive until 18.01

I have the same setup, no success on Mac side. But the Bootcamp side works perfectly fine. Let us know if you could make it work on the Mac side.


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January 11, 2018 4:05 pm  
Posted by: rotarymac

So far haven't been able to get this working using a few different setups, from most of the threads I've been looking at(excluding this one) it looks like high sierra TB2 + dGPU + eGPU just doesn't work anymore  

Setup method:

  1. install nvidia web drivers + restart
  2. recovery mode -> disable SIP + restart
  3. Install the package linked above + restart
  4. recovery mode -> enable SIP + restart

 

That step 4 of yours is wrong, because the situation of your step 2 is also required to use the eGPU.

As an alternative, your step 2 could have been to enable SIP without --kext, and then likewise keep it that way when using the eGPU.  


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January 11, 2018 5:05 pm  

Thank you guys! It works perfectly fine with my system on both mac and bootcamp sides. On mac side, I had to update to the latest web driver (104) after installing the supplement update of macOS earlier today. Then I deleted the older NVIDIAegpu support ktext file and installed the package from the first page. Finally, I had to apply the logout/hotplug/login trick.

Macbook pro 15" 2017 | macOS 10.13.2 (17C205) | NVIDIA Web Driver *.104 | Auros 1080 


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January 11, 2018 5:17 pm  

Hey guys I need some help. 

 

I have a 2013 iMac with an intel Iris pro 5200 and a second 27 in Asus monitor (same resolution) 

I am using a sonnet egfx breakaway box and a gtx 1060 3gb version. My problem is the performance with the graphics card box is actually worse than the intel iris, but about 20%. I followed the steps and everything is working,(shows up in system profile has the right drivers) but I  am hoping it is not a limitation of the thunderbolt 1 port (or all this stuff goes back to the store) 

Please help if I switch to an rx580 would the performance be better? Is thunderbolt 1 really just that slow? Is it the fact that it is an iMac?

Thanks for the help in advance 

 


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January 11, 2018 9:06 pm  
Posted by: hkoster1
Posted by: rotarymac

So far haven't been able to get this working using a few different setups, from most of the threads I've been looking at(excluding this one) it looks like high sierra TB2 + dGPU + eGPU just doesn't work anymore  

Setup method:

  1. install nvidia web drivers + restart
  2. recovery mode -> disable SIP + restart
  3. Install the package linked above + restart
  4. recovery mode -> enable SIP + restart

 

That step 4 of yours is wrong, because the situation of your step 2 is also required to use the eGPU.

As an alternative, your step 2 could have been to enable SIP without --kext, and then likewise keep it that way when using the eGPU.  

I just tried this again but skipped step 4. While I doubt that enabled SIP is the issue I thought I would try anyways. This means that SIP is currently disabled. 

Following #post-23223 in this thread I rebuilt the kext cache to see if it would help in anyway. I went through the steps of

  1. Uninstall nvidia driver + restart (I currently had SIP enabled)
  2. Removed / Library / Extensions / NVIDIAEGPUSupport . kext  file + restart
  3. Rebuilt caches
  4. Installed nvidia driver + restart (SIP enabled, latest nvidia web driver)
  5. Disabled SIP + restart
  6. Installed NVDAEGPUSupport-v4-SU + restart
  7. log in, connected the EGPU with the external display
  8. log out 

What I got was a black screen on macbook, at the very least this time my CPU fan didn't try to burn the house down

I'm pretty sure the reason I'm getting this is that my macbook fails to correct detect the GPU for some reason ... If I look at the "system report" / "about this mac" before and after plugging in the eGPU you can clearly see that afterwards it cannot figure out what the available GPUs are

 

Edit 1:

So I've gotten it working. Instead of disabling SIP (or disable+enable) I just went with the original recommendation of enable --without kext. Also the main thing for me that got my eGPU and external displays connected was plugging in the Thunderbolt2 cable as soon as the harddrive starts decryption. I have posted an implementation guide with more specifics at  https://egpu.io/forums/builds/2014-15-macbook-pro-gt750m-gtx97016gbps-tb2-mantiz-venus-via-tb3-to-tb2-adapter-macos10-13-2-rotarymac/  


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January 13, 2018 7:35 pm  

I can again confirm a working System: (update with SU for macOS, System worked before 10.13.2 build: 17C88)

1. Update macOS to 10.13.2 build 17C205
2. Update Nvidia drivers using the internal update mechanism (check, download, install within the system property panel)
3. Restart
4. Install the Nvidia eGPU support kext
5. Restart
6. Log in -> attach -> log out -> log in -> works

I did not change SIP at all (already had enabled without kext)

Performance is around the same (±5s on every test in one of my earlier posts)

My Setup:
MacBook Pro Late 2016 15'', Sonnet eGFX breakaway box 550, EVGA SC2 1080Ti

 

macOS-eGPU.sh on GitHub (fr34k's macOS-eGPU.sh on eGPU.io)
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January 15, 2018 8:55 pm  

Hi all.

First thing, thanks for all the work done on this. I think we all wish that Apple and nVidia could do something to make it work out of the box.

Here's my setup:

- Mantiz Venus eGPU case

- MSI NVidia GeForce GTX 1080 Ti

- 2016 TouchBar MacBook Pro, running 10.13.2 (17C205) with Filevault on

I followed the steps on post #1:

  1. Install NVIDIA Web drivers with SIP enabled
  2. Enable unsigned drivers with csrutil enable --without kext
  3. Install the package "NVDAEGPUSupport-v4-SU.zip" for 10.13.2 (17C205)

The results are not quite good so far.

  • Boot with eGPU plugged in, I get the "never-ending not spinning" spinning-wheel and it's stucked at startup/loading, unplugging gives me a KP.
  • Connect eGPU few seconds after Filevault decrypts the disk result in the same as when I plug the eGPU after a login but the card seems to be not seen properly and no image on external display.

Not sure if I'm missing anything here, any tips, or steps to troubleshoot are much appreciated.

Some screenshots that could be intersting:

MacBook Pro 2016 - 3,3 GHz Intel Core i7 - 16 GB RAM - Mantiz Venus eGPU with AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 8Gb connected to AOC U3277PWQU (4K) running 10.13.4b4 (17E170c)


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January 15, 2018 10:52 pm  

OK so, late 2016 15" MacBook Pro - Matiz Venus - EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 connected to an Acer Predator Z35P 35" / 21:9 curved display @ 120Hz SUCCESS!!! 

Literally followed the directions exactly from page 1 / first post.

Followed fr34k's process...i.e

1. Update macOS to 10.13.2 build 17C205
2. Update Nvidia drivers using the internal update mechanism (check, download, install within the system property panel)

(instead of updating drivers, I installed them for the first time)

3. Restart
4. Install the Nvidia eGPU support kext
5. Restart
6. Log in -> attach -> log out -> log in -> works

 

I noticed a lot of people are having issues. I noticed a pattern though, they always say "plugged in eGPU and then powered on and logged in" and then they have issues.... you're doing it wrong....it's important to READ.

WITHOUT the eGPU plugged in, power on your Mac, login, plug-in eGPU, restart/logout, power on/login AND WAIT. Your screen might go all crazy, flash a few things, just wait and chill the F out.

Took about 5 minutes before mine kicked in...once it did, my mac was super laggy, like the cursor was SUPER laggy, skipping across the screen, I painfully navigated to system report to confirm, EVERYTHING was recognized, I then navigated to display preferences and turned off display mirroring and then went to display arrangement and moved the little white bar from the top of the smaller display (the internal display) to the big display (my external display), BOOM and it works perfect...that's it, that's all!

I spent several days reading through all 23 pages in this thread, reading through the issues others were having, to get a wide scope of what people were doing wrong and what people were doing right.

Turns out most folks having issues are just simply doing it wrong, as in the order of procedure.

Anyways, everything seems to be working, even after I mucked around in display preferences, things were still a little laggy, like moving around windows and such, but within 10 minutes, it smoothed out and is now perfectly fine...still haven;t rebooted, so we'll see what happens after that, but I am able to get 120Hz, Metal is supported, etc, etc, etc. Everything looks A+ on the compatibility front...now to install bootcamp and deal with all that...wish me luck!

Would also like to thank the community for all of their input and experiences as well as the developer for creating these patches to get Nvidia cards to work with our machines! Like seriously, thank you so much! Saved me from wasting money on a Vega 64 and miss out on my monitors G-Sync!!! 

 


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January 16, 2018 12:34 am  

Hi guys, I had the eGPU working fine (Thunder2 + 1080 -> 2013 MBP @ 750M) however after the update to SU I can't get it to work again. 

Log in -> Connect -> Log out never worked for me - instead I had to plug to eGPU when the Apple logo appears. 

Now I start up to the internal display working and external display blank with cursor. If I drag a window to external display I see it leaving traces behind (not refreshing). Cursor is refreshing ok. 

Any idea how I can fix this? 

MBP 2013 750M + Akitio Thunder-2@GTX1080 (Zotac Mini)


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January 16, 2018 12:40 am  

Hi there,

I got some very strange problem when I connect with my Mantiz Venus with Nvida GTX1080Ti, in the system panel I can find the eGPU is detected and in the OctaneRender I can find my GTX1080Ti as well. The problem is the external display is always black and my Mac still think it is connected as a secondary display. Is there any one encounter this strange problem?

Regards.

2016 15" MacBook Pro 2016 + Vega-FE@32Gbps-TB3 (Mantiz Venus) + MacOs 10.13.2 beta // using 600W PSU


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January 16, 2018 9:32 am  
Posted by: psonice

Request: if anyone has a 10 series nvidia card (ideally a 1080TI) running via eGPU on 10.13.2, could you please try it with my Metal benchmarking tool and post your results? Tool is available here:

https://egpu.io/forums/mac-setup/metalbench-benchmarking-tool-for-raw-gpu-compute-performance/

I plan to order a 1080TI and a Sonnet 550 box, but I've heard mixed reports about Metal working and/or performance, and this (as well as CUDA) is pretty critical to what I do. So no go until I know it'll (hopefully!) work 🙂

Here's my result on an Aorus 1080 gaming box + 2016 15" Macbook Pro on 10.13.2 (17C88)


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January 16, 2018 11:52 am  
Posted by: Shinra

Hi there,

I got some very strange problem when I connect with my Mantiz Venus with Nvida GTX1080Ti, in the system panel I can find the eGPU is detected and in the OctaneRender I can find my GTX1080Ti as well. The problem is the external display is always black and my Mac still think it is connected as a secondary display. Is there any one encounter this strange problem?

Regards.

Have you tried logging out (not reboot) then log in again? This has worked in a number of different systems. 

late-2017 27" iMac Pro RPVega64 + GTX1080TI@32Gbps-TB3 (AKiTiO Node) + MacOS 10.13.2
late-2014 27" iMac 5k R9 M295X + GTX1080Ti@16Gbps-TB (AKiTiO Node via TB3->TB2 adapter) + macOS10.13 & Win10


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January 16, 2018 6:52 pm  
Posted by: Shinra

The problem is the external display is always black and my Mac still think it is connected as a secondary display. 

 

I have same problem now - the external display is black (can see cursor), was ok until the 2018 update but can't rollback now. 

MBP 2013 750M + Akitio Thunder-2@GTX1080 (Zotac Mini)


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