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RTX 2070 + Mac mini losing to a GTX 1070?  

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(@stefan_furtado)
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Greetings everyone!

I have been using a similar setup as @itsage, i7 Mac mini with 32 gb RAM paired with Razer Core X and EVGA 2070. The results however have been sort of disappointing when it comes to handling FPS and wanted to share with you to see if you have some thoughts.
I paired the same Mac mini with my older MSI 1070 Armor and when it comes to FPS the 1070 has even surpassed the 2070 in some games. I have been playing Overwatch, Apex and Hitman 2. The problem mostly occurs in Apex where the drop in FPS for the 2070 has been quite bad. 
The monitor I am running is the Dell AW3418DW with 120mhz at 3440x1440, settings are almost all in low (for Apex), Overwatch runs at 120 FPS pretty constantly at High Settings and Hitman 2 at about 60 FPS with some drops below 30-40s.

Was I expecting too much from the RTX 2070? Is there something I can do? The experience of my previous PC (i5 6600 + GTX 1070 + 16gb ram) is better at gaming then the Mac mini i7 32gb with the 2070. So I am considering keeping my older PC for gaming and just selling the eGPU + 2070 to get some cash back.

PS.: I did notice that the Mac mini running Apex, CPU's tend to go at 100 degrees Celsius, which could suggest thermal throttling.

Thoughts are greatly appreciated!

Mac mini 2018, i7, 32 GB Ram, Razer Core X + eVGA 2070 OC Gaming


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itsage
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@stefan_furtado I would suspect the i7 thermal-throttles during gameplay and causes the dismal performance. While I never tested the i7 configuration 2018 Mac mini, the i5 was running hot. I exchanged it for the i3 configuration which so far seems manageable. Here’s my build using the RTX 2070 + Razer Core. Does your GTX 1070 eGPU exceed the benchmark numbers I posted?

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(@stefan_furtado)
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Thanks for the fast reply @itsage!

Honesty I never ran a benchmark before. Happy to do and share the results here with both cards!

Which tool should I use?

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itsage
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Download the three Unigine benchmarks and run them at the same settings/resolutions like I did to compare.

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(@stefan_furtado)
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Greetings @itsage!

So I did as you suggested and did benchmarks with the follow configurations:
- Mac mini + eGPU 1070
- Mac mini + eGPU 2070
- PC i5 + 1070

The results are below and quite interesting IMO, not sure how to upload the pics?

Mac mini + eGPU 1070:
- Heaven FHD: FPS 76, Score 1915, Min FPS 31.6, Max FPS 149.4
- Heaven QHD: FPS 49, Score 1238, Min FPS 24.2, Max FPS 95.5
- Valley FHD: FPS 81.9, Score 3427, Min FPS 36.5, Max FPS 158.3
- Valley QHD: FPS 52.5, Score 2198, Min FPS 27.3, Max FPS 101.1
- Superposition FHD: Score 11586, FPS Min: 59.1, Max: 113.51, Avg: 86.66
- Superposition QHD: Score 7782, FPS Min: 47.15, Max: 58.21, Avg: 73.71

Mac mini + eGPU 2070:
- Heaven FHD: FPS 98.6, Score 2483, Min FPS 9.1, Max FPS 196.4
- Heaven QHD: FPS 67.2, Score 1693, Min FPS 30.5, Max FPS 126.9
- Valley FHD: FPS 106.2, Score 4444, Min FPS 40.9, Max FPS 209.8
- Valley QHD: FPS 70, Score 2931, Min FPS 32.9, Max FPS 128.8
- Superposition FHD: Score 15245, FPS Min: 85.76, Max: 145.07, Avg: 114.03
- Superposition QHD: Score 10468, FPS Min: 65.85, Max: 97.03, Avg: 78.30

PC i5 1070:
- Heaven FHD: FPS 82.5, Score 2079, Min FPS 9.0, Max FPS 126.8
- Heaven QHD: FPS 55.2, Score 1391, Min FPS 24.4, Max FPS 114.6
- Valley FHD: FPS 87.6, Score 3663, Min FPS 24.9, Max FPS 171.8
- Valley QHD: FPS 55.8, Score 2334, Min FPS 24.8, Max FPS 110.5
- Superposition FHD: Score 12643, FPS Min: 59.38, Max: 123.64, Avg: 94.56
- Superposition QHD: Score 8366, FPS Min: 49.81, Max: 79.67, Avg: 62.58

So it looks to me that the 2070 on the eGPU is doing an excellent job as expected when it comes to benchmarking. However, why is there a "smoother" gameplay session in Windows + 1070? Thermal throttling? Badly optimised games? Any other ideas?

When I figure out how to upload images, I'll send everything here too. Let me know if there are any other ideas on how to better game with Mac mini + 2070, very interesting stuff!

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Mac mini 2018, i7, 32 GB Ram, Razer Core X + eVGA 2070 OC Gaming


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(@stefan_furtado)
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@itsage, Any thoughts here? 🙂

Thanks in advance!

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Mac mini 2018, i7, 32 GB Ram, Razer Core X + eVGA 2070 OC Gaming


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OliverB
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@stefan_furtado
I wrote it already in this post.
In my setup, it's always > 100 FPS @1440p, even with the highest settings. Ok, this is training, I guess a match goes more on CPU and the CPU load is nearly 0. I don't except this being much lower in match.

BTW, This:
"- Valley FHD: FPS 106.2, Score 4444"

for your RTX 2070 is an excellent score. So there is nothing wrong with GPU istelf. Setting are "ExtremeHD"?

EDIT: Ah, it seems you have CPU Problem, 100 Degrees Celsius?! Those synthetic benchmarks do hardly stress the CPU. That's why "match" is much worse than "training" for this game.

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