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(@max_obe)
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Hi @all,

since yesterday I'm trying to get this setup to work on the internal 4k display. Also read many threads here at egpu.io and other forums.

I gave it a first try and connected while on desktop in Win 10. It was plug&play, but only got a score of graphics score of 7600 in timespy and the graphics card was not recognized correctly. even in games there wasn't the expected power(I know it's at least 20% less power @4k compared to a desktop setup).

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/6648930

So installed the desktop driver from nvidia "419.35-notebook-win10-64bit-international-whql".
Since then all got worse:
- card was recognized correctly with full Speed (even cuda z know recognized the card: connection values were correct for [email protected] PCIe)
but
- BSOD while benchmarking or gaming every time after 20-30 seconds with "Video_tdr_failure and nvlddmkm.sys".
- meanwhile  the Card ins't working anymore- it's only displayed in device Manager with "stopped working with failure code 43"

What I've tried:
- uninstall nvidia driver with DDU in safe mode
- tested various driver  versions from nvidia
- made even a clean installation of windows
- start up windows connected to egpu

- chatted with razer, but no idea
- talked to zotac, the guy didn't even know that there are egpus

Unfortunately I don't have the possibility to test another graphics card or with an external display.
General temps are well and the Xps 15 is repasted, repadded and pads on critical Areas(pch, vrm).

So is there anybody who could help me?

This topic was modified 11 months ago

XPS 15 9570, i7, 4k, 1050ti + Razer Core X@Zotac 2080


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itsage
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@max_obe Error 43 is a driver conflict. Run DDU again. Make sure to go into OPTIONS and disable Windows 10 auto driver installation. Once you do that, manually install the latest Nvidia drivers when both dGPU and eGPU are showing up as “Microsoft Basic Display Adapter” in Device Manager.

Also looking at the details of your 3DMark link, I saw there were 3 graphics card total. I would recommend disabling the GTX discrete GPU in Device Manager. That way Windows has an easier time using the RTX 2080 eGPU as primary for all tasks.

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jerry Kansai
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Posted by: Max Obe

Hi @all,

since yesterday I'm trying to get this setup to work on the internal 4k display. Also read many threads here at egpu.io and other forums.

I gave it a first try and connected while on desktop in Win 10. It was plug&play, but only got a score of graphics score of 7600 in timespy and the graphics card was not recognized correctly. even in games there wasn't the expected power(I know it's at least 20% less power @4k compared to a desktop setup).

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/6648930

So installed the desktop driver from nvidia "419.35-notebook-win10-64bit-international-whql".
Since then all got worse:
- card was recognized correctly with full Speed (even cuda z know recognized the card: connection values were correct for [email protected] PCIe)
but
- BSOD while benchmarking or gaming every time after 20-30 seconds with "Video_tdr_failure and nvlddmkm.sys".
- meanwhile  the Card ins't working anymore- it's only displayed in device Manager with "stopped working with failure code 43"

What I've tried:
- uninstall nvidia driver with DDU in safe mode
- tested various driver  versions from nvidia
- made even a clean installation of windows
- start up windows connected to egpu

- chatted with razer, but no idea
- talked to zotac, the guy didn't even know that there are egpus

Unfortunately I don't have the possibility to test another graphics card or with an external display.
General temps are well and the Xps 15 is repasted, repadded and pads on critical Areas(pch, vrm).

So is there anybody who could help me?

Yes most probably driver issue, I’m using also 2080 (Evga black gaming), as @itsage mentioned try disable your laptop dgpu, if you already did, try install firstly NVIDIA’s driver on your dgpu before unplug the core, and connect it, maybe try installing it again after plugged with advanced installation see if there’s something missing on check box in installation progress. Try using 416.35, I tried 419.35 and stated also vga, but it’s fine it’ll recognize it later, I believe it’ll show like this on title , sometimes 3Dmark show such that on gaming laptop with dgpu on the title. The main reason I reverted was lower performance.

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(@max_obe)
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Thanks for the advice at both of you.

Deactivation of auto driver installation is always one of the first things I do after a fresh installation of windows.
So I did a clean driver install with DDU, but no success.

Today I made a journey to a friend- he only has a GTX 960 in his desktop, but we could do some tests:
- he also got code 43 with my RTX 2080 installed in the desktop
- his GTX 960 was well recognized in Razer Core and there were no issues 🙂 it´s a nice, simple process like it has to be
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/6683867 (stats of 960 are listed under secondary graphics)
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/18818760

so conclusion: RTX 2080 is broken from factory?

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XPS 15 9570, i7, 4k, 1050ti + Razer Core X@Zotac 2080


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(@max_obe)
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Update:
New RTX 2080 arrived, this time from Gigabyte, installed like @itsage said.
No Problems so far- gaming for over 1 hour and benchmarks without problems.

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/6725217
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/6726772 (with OC scan+ Ram OC)

Superposition 4k Optimized Score: 7403 FPS Avg: 55.37

Only a little disappointed because of the overall speed, I exspected a timespy graphics score nearly at 9k without OC...
Cuda Z shows speed h2d and d2h both at 2300 MiB/s. I may made another mistake?

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XPS 15 9570, i7, 4k, 1050ti + Razer Core X@Zotac 2080


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(@kyle_landrith)
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@max_obe

I can't comment on any of the windows stuff as I'm on Linux, but I have an XPS 15 9570 i7 + 2080 Super eGPU setup. Mine is a Sonnet Breakaway Box 650W with an EVGA 2080 Super XC Hybird that's overclocked 120mhz and 500mhz over a stock 2080 super. I am running it on a [email protected] lg 38" ultrawide and I get a Unigine superposition score of 9222 at @69.98 FPS average. Keep in mind though that I am running linux, and unigine uses OpenGL on linux, which their implementation is slower than their directx windows implementation by about 8% from what I've read. I would get an external screen if at all possible. You're killing your TB3 bandwidth sending the signal back to the laptop. Even if it's a cheaper gaming monitor it would be worth it. If you do go that route, I recommend that you disable the internal screen in software and leave the laptop open so the heat can come out of the hinge area from the fans, otherwise it has nowhere to really go, and this bitch can't cool that CPU for crap.

Dell XPS 15 9570 i78750H, 32GB RAM, 1TB Samsung 970 Evo Plus, Sonnet Breakaway Box 650W, EVGA 2080 Super XC Hybrid sending it to an LG 3840x1600 38" ultra-wide. Running Linux (Kubuntu 18.04).


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