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JMGmr2
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Thanks.  That sounds like it stops all updates.  I'm really only stopping the two offending updates.  Is there anything I can do to filter that so that my Windows install isn't an open door to all sort of unsavory folk?

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I had this happen twice on my Razer blade stealth. Uninstalling KB4515384 and using the hide update tool as described here resolved the issue for me.

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@kind

Interesting to see non-Bootcamp systems being affected. Hopefully this implies a widespread issue which Microsoft should fix. They've had a bad run of Windows updates recently (more than normal).

A nice guide for those looking to disable Windows updates: https://www.cleverfiles.com/howto/disable-update-windows-10.html

Personally think the first approach is most effective. I will try updating my Windows system over the weekend to the bad builds though, to experiment.

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I had the same problem. It's definitely the cumulative update. 1903 works just fine when I uninstalled the cumulative update. I submitted feedback to Microsoft and provided logs for them. Unfortunately, on a Mac Mini, you have to reinstall Windows. I Use a 2018 MBP so I can disconnect the eGPU and use the built-in display to get into WIndows to uninstall the update.

Microsoft needs to stop forcing people to update or only be able to defer it. With a Pro license, I should be able to pick and choose what I want to update to form the available updates. This is super frustrating and I spent 2 hours trying to get the Razer Core X Chroma with Radeon VII to work on the cumulative update but I kept getting an error code 43 in the device manager.

Marking my internet connection as metered so I'm not forced to take any updates until I'm sure this is fixed.

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Posted by: @davidackley56

Unfortunately, on a Mac Mini , you have to reinstall Windows.

@davidackley56 why is this needed? Just boot into Windows with display connected to Mac mini directly and uninstall the update. 

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@davidackley56

Hi,
I did update to win 19.03 yesterday and then deleted the KB update from control panel and used the DDU to delete the amd old drivers.
I originally installed the version 1803 "October version". Now I disabled also all update and I will wait from any good news.

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OliverB
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You are not he only one.. I am having trouble, too since update from 1803 to 1903. See here in my post.

First it didn't work at all, but I could change a few things and it works, but still there a lot of issues that have never been before like the sleep issue.

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@itsage Confirming that build 329 does cause Error 12 for my setup as well. Somehow it also deleted my restore point, but uninstalling the update manually did the trick.

@mac_editor
is there list of Builds Numbers that work best? I have build 30 which looks very "young" and this may be a reason for my issues.

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@oliverb OS Build 18362.30 is the initial version of Window 10 1903 V1 ISO. It’s working very well for my 2016 15″ MacBook Pro. I believe most updates were fine up until the most recent .329 and .356.

 

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Posted by: @itsage

@oliverb OS Build 18362.30 is the initial version of Window 10 1903 V1 ISO. It's working very well for my 2016 15" MacBook Pro. I believe most updates were fine up until the most recent .329 and .356.

 

Does Sleep/Hibernation work well in Bootcamp for 2016 15" MBP? For both nVidia and AMD cards? I think in my systems sleeping and nVidia never worked, but little Puck could be brought to sleep very easily with Build 1803.

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@kind

Thanks.  That did the trick.

For anyone that has issues and can't simply uninstall the offending 329 and 356 updates, simply use bootcamp to reset the installation.  I had the issue that I downloaded an ISO for 1903 and that lead to problems.  Since it was somehow set to winver .30, instead of .295.  I managed to install 329/356...uninstall them and then use the tool you mentioned to block them from reinstalling.  Then I went to Microsoft's website, downloaded the updates for 1903 and manually installed them, pushing .30 back down to .295.  Everything seems to be working better now.

What a mess though.

System Restore and Images++.

 

@oliverb

Build has performance issues.  I noticed that my gaming perf in Windows was significantly lower with .30 vs .295.  Forza Horizion is 10 fps lower.  Hunt is 5 fps lower at 4K ultra.

Ymmv.

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teltersat2
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I just suffered from this and managed to uninstall the offending update. But kinda sad to see that this one slip through so badly on their testing...

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My adventure came about because I was trying to install Gears 5.  It needed 18362.  I had 17763 installed with everything working perfectly.  I originally upgraded to the latest, got error 12 for the eGPU and I couldn't just uninstall the .356 update without reverting all the way back to 17763.  

I did use the MS Media Creation tool to upgrade.  Was then able to uninstall the .356 update and resulted in 18362.239.  It recognized the eGPU immediately on reboot and everything seems to be working again. 

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OliverB
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Hello,
I can confirm that .356 completely ruins any eGPU setup. I was able revert, but only to .30. Does anyone know how to:
1) Update to .295 (Probably: http://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB4512508 )
2) Avoid automatic update to .356 (Answer: https://www.cleverfiles.com/howto/disable-update-windows-10.html )

Thanks a lot! So I answered my question myself, links are provided for everyone.

Do you want to know my opinion? Microsoft gives a sh*t about eGPU, they just do not care.

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OliverB
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It's the sad truth: Microsoft is not interested in eGPU. We still could talk .329 into a "bug" or "fluke", but we can't do it with .356. Every improvement considering eGPU was merely luck and had nothing to do with the desired "Microsoft agenda to improve eGPUs". It's not.

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I'm pretty much effed as well with the .356 build. 

I haven't gamed for a month because busy ( and unfortunately, I didn't keep track of these windows issues I wasn't aware of )...until this week and oh boy, my RTX 2070 gaming box is now just an expensive paper weight.
I used the Win 10 feedback function to report this, but yeah...this is pretty hopeless and pathetic. 

I guess, I can only hope, wait and settle for World of Tanks sessions in SD client graphics at low settings  🙁

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yes, look up group policy... set Automatic update to 2 (notify you to download but do nothing else)

so, I believe it is gpedit.msc (forgive me here)

From Microsoft Document

Configuring Automatic Updates by using Group Policy

Under Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Windows update\Configure Automatic Updates, you must select one of the four options:

2 - Notify for download and auto install - When Windows finds updates that apply to this device, users will be notified that updates are ready to be downloaded. After going to Settings > Update & security > Windows Update, users can download and install any available updates.

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OliverB
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@knot3d
Are you sure with your RTX 2070? It's said only AMD cards are affected...

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@oliverb

Apparently it affected my Nvidia RTX 2070 Aorus gaming box as well. Hotplug method doesn't work either anymore.

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Posted by: @knot3d

@oliverb

Apparently it affected my Nvidia RTX 2070 Aorus gaming box as well. Hotplug method doesn't work either anymore.

@knot3d
Microsoft don't care about eGPU. They never will. It's a sad story without happy end.

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Knot3D
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Ok, I simply uninstalled KB4515384 reverting the OS build to .295 again and the RTX2070 gaming box works again.
I'll disable the automatic updates in services.msc when I'll close off again. 

But yeah, what a messy state win 10 is in.

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I had to re-install windows again and go back to 295 and block further updates. Such a pain. I couldn't simply uninstall as it didnt have the option any more.

Now its back to working seamlessly again...

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Posted by: @oliverb
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@oliverb

Apparently it affected my Nvidia RTX 2070 Aorus gaming box as well. Hotplug method doesn't work either anymore.

@knot3d
Microsoft don't care about eGPU. They never will. It's a sad story without happy end.

Apple isn't doing much better considering their application support seems spottier, they only support a handful of either low end or essentially end of life/obsolete gpu's with power requirements which make picking an enclosure tricky.  They also expect customers to buy a very expensive peripheral with the possibility of it being the world's most expensive paperweight when running in bootcamp, with little recourse.

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Solution!!!

I just had this problem 2018 MBP Razer Core X Vega 64. After update code 12 error.

i went into windows update section and you have the option to uninstall the recent updates. Did this, everything working fine again.

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Could someone confirm for me that no one has been able to use eGPU successfully in bootcamp in 1903 Build 18362.356?

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Could someone confirm for me that no one has been able to use eGPU successfully in bootcamp in 1903 Build 18362.356?

That’s correct, I couldn’t get egpu to work consistently in bootcamp, it magically worked once after lots of trying but rolling back works consistently every time.

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@sunny

thanks! anyone else got it working? 

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@sunny

thanks! anyone else got it working? 

Win101903

How did you get it working?

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@sunny

that's what I am trying to figure out...

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My educated guess is the dGPU R9 M370X. This could make a difference.

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Could someone confirm for me that no one has been able to use eGPU successfully in bootcamp in 1903 Build 18362.356?

I could use OS Build 18263.356 with my 2016 15″ MacBook Pro after disabling the dGPU. It involves automate-eGPU EFI and dsdt override. This version is not working for most Macs and some Windows laptops with an AMD eGPU. Nvidia eGPUs don’t seem to be effected.

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Posted by: @itsage

Nvidia eGPUs don't seem to be effected.

My Gaming Box RTX2070 was affected by .356....

I'm gonna stick with .295, at least that works.

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Posted by: @itsage
Posted by: @user99999

Could someone confirm for me that no one has been able to use eGPU successfully in bootcamp in 1903 Build 18362.356?

I could use OS Build 18263.356 with my 2016 15" MacBook Pro after disabling the dGPU. It involves automate-eGPU EFI and dsdt override. This version is not working for most Macs and some Windows laptops with an AMD eGPU. Nvidia eGPUs don't seem to be effected.

Then this is probably the end of plug and play bootcamp solutions... still hope Microsoft acknowledges this issue - but this is such a niche use case in the overall Microsoft grand scheme of things. I wonder if it has to do with something that can be fixed by AMD too...

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@teltersat2 I’m hoping it’s an oversight due to some security patches and future Win10 OS Build will be better. @sky11, who used to be the AMD XConnect lead was promoted to work on Microsoft Security Engineering. AMD eGPU drivers in Windows haven’t received the same attention and optimization since.

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Can confirm, same problem here, except my System Restore had created the restore point so I could roll back without problems.

Looking at KB 4512941:

"Improves the user experience and app compatibility so that more Win32 apps will work with Windows Mixed Reality."

I think this is probably to do with MS HoloLens support. I've seen a lot of HL updates come past recently, and I would guess they're really pushing updates for that tech because of the new release this month. I would guess something in there went a bit too far.

Also, I wouldn't worry too much. There are plenty of corporate build situations where you want to use an eGPU - indeed, HoloLens and eGPU's together make a lot of sense for things like presentations. That said, they of course happily bed with their preferred partners for testing and such. Wanna bet that's nvidia rather than AMD? 

 

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eGPU KO'ed on Windows Build 1903 18362.387 as well.  Maybe MS is trying to weed out all the eGPU setups on bootcamp

@itsage

Anyway you can suggest to resolve this error message? Have tried reinstalls.

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@user99999

Might help to have the text of the entire error message...

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