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(@nelson_ten)
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@itsage Hey, it's 18362.418, Version 1903, I didnt take into account of OS build when I embarked on this journey. Is this going to be a huge problem?

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It’s best to roll back to an earlier build. Win10 18362.329 and newer causes error 12 on many systems.

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@itsage Thanks for the advice! However it seems I've updated to this version build directly from Windows 8.1 so I cannot roll back to a previous build I think. What would be the best way at the moment to get to the build that you've suggested?

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How frustrating. I didn't have access to my eGPU for a few months and I updated Windows faithfully in that duration on my 15" Late 2016 tMBP.

I used refind to force activate iGPU and disable 1901 to use left TB3 ports and had no problems with code 12, but now even disabling both 1901 and 1905 (and using right TB3 port) doesn't get it working. I can't even rollback to .295 since it's been too long since the update of death and I would have to clean install... which I have no idea how to get it to .295.

Even enrolling in Windows Insider Program and updating to 1909.418 build hasn't gotten me anywhere.

My build includes Razer Core X + Vega64. If anyone has any workaround or solutions, I would really really appreciate some help!

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@nelson_ten

I had to change my windows build (I'm getting my setup eGPU-ready now) so I just downloaded an ISO in this situation. Just googled the build number, I looked for Win10 1903 V1.

After downloading I mounted & installed it and all my apps, settings and the licence were kept intact. Don't forget to disable updates inside the installer so it installs exactly what you've downloaded. I had to do some clean ups before I could successfully upgrade though: otherwise my system was returning an error and "undoing changes made to your computer". In my situation I was upgrading from 1803 manually as Windows Update stopped working for some reason. By clean ups I meant deleting previous update cache, closing everything and most importantly disabling the internet during the whole process. And it worked.

My build number says 18362.30 now and as far as I understood it's considered eGPU friendly as well. Will submit my build when it's ready.

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Posted by: @shaun_kim

How frustrating. I didn’t have access to my eGPU for a few months and I updated Windows faithfully in that duration on my 15″ Late 2016 tMBP.

I used refind to force activate iGPU and disable 1901 to use left TB3 ports and had no problems with code 12, but now even disabling both 1901 and 1905 (and using right TB3 port) doesn’t get it working. I can’t even rollback to .295 since it’s been too long since the update of death and I would have to clean install… which I have no idea how to get it to .295.

Even enrolling in Windows Insider Program and updating to 1909.418 build hasn’t gotten me anywhere.

My build includes Razer Core X + Vega64. If anyone has any workaround or solutions, I would really really appreciate some help!

The 2016 15″ MacBook Pro is blursed! I have the same one and it’s been plenty of frustration but excitement as well. The bad news is rEFInd boot up method doesn’t work anymore on these newer Windows versions. The good news is you can use a similar boot up method with automate-eGPU EFI. Here’s my most recent build [2016 15″ MacBook Pro + RX Vega 64 LC + Mantiz Venus] that have step-by-step instructions.

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@itsage rEFInd doesnt work in newer windows builds? Care to share more details? Thats my usual go to and has been working flawless... now I'm worried!

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@eightarmedpet Sorry I didn’t make it more clear. That statement was in the context of the 2016 15″ MacBook Pro. It needs DSDT override and automate-eGPU EFI method works but the older rEFInd method @shaun_kim was using doesn’t work to resolve error 12.

 

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@itsage

Bless you! I am now able to use my eGPU without code 12 following your guide! I didn't even need to a clean install of Windows is the best part of all this.

Here's what I did prior to following your guide:

1) Boot in OSX
2) Mount ESP volume
3) Delete refind folder

Also, when creating the FAT partition it would initially fail to format but did make the partition, so just reattempting to format said partition worked.

I don't know how useful this is but I thought it'd be something to note for those who want to make a work around without clean installing.

Once again, this build is a 2016 15" TbMBP RP460 + Razer Core X + Vega 64 with Windows 1909 18363.418 build.

Thank you again@itsage! You're a godsaver 😀

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@itsage, what’s a good recommended os build for windows 10? On Microsoft’s website there’s one October 2018 and May 2019. Would it be better to get the October one and leave as is or update it somewhat a little then attempt to use the eGPU?

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FFS.... Just overnight my RTX2070 stopped working again, although this time, I don't think .418 is the culprit - but I have no idea what is though.

 

Usually, when I'd hotplug it, there would be a double chime - then the egpu would turn on and I'd accept it via the TB3 software dock. 

Since today, the TB3 software accepts the egpu and it activates, but I can only hear a single chime and the egpu is nowhere to be seen in

device manager and nvidia control panel doesn't activate either.

Going back to .295 build did not resolve anything either - so atm I am quite disgusted and disappointed. There have been no Win10 updates

over the past few days so I think I can rule that out.

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@nelson_ten The most eGPU friendly OS Build of Win10 so far is Win10 1903 V1 like @deduwka recommended. This particular ISO is no longer available on Microsoft download website. You’d have to search around for it. 

@shaun_kim I’m glad to hear it’s working with automate-eGPU EFI. My 2016 15″ MacBook Pro is currently running Win10 1909 OS Build 18363.418 and the RX Vega LC eGPU remains working with the same boot procedure.

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Hello, I am new both to the forum and to using an eGPU. I'm doing as much research as possible before asking questions.

I have a Mac Mini 2018, and plan to purchase a Razer Core X with a Vega 64 (or a 5700 XT) to use with Windows. I am planning to use my internal drive for bootcamp, and use an external for storing large games. The bootcamp instructions have me go to a Windows site for the Windows 10 iso from either October 2018 or May 2019. Will either of those work to start? I have looked very carefully at the How To guide on this site a few times. I am trying to wrap my head around this thread of how the most recent updates have broken some compatibility, and how to prevent potential mistakes as I do this for the first time. Maybe I just need to wait this thread out to see what happens with solutions or new Windows updates? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Posted by: @itsage

@nelson_ten The most eGPU friendly OS Build of Win10 so far is Win10 1903 V1 like @deduwka recommended. This particular ISO is no longer available on Microsoft download website. You'd have to search around for it. 

@shaun_kim I'm glad to hear it's working with automate-eGPU EFI. My 2016 15" MacBook Pro is currently running Win10 1909 OS Build 18363.418 and the RX Vega LC eGPU remains working with the same boot procedure.

When I installed 1903 over 1803, I got build 418 but was able to uninstall that to get build 1 and then update to build 295 manually.

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This seems like an interesting issue. 

I had an RX480 with 15'' 2018 MBP running through all the 'problematic' updates, including .329, ?.359? and .418 as good as any 1903. I never had to do anything, in fact I have never seen the dreaded error 12 with my 15'' 2018 MBP + rx480, everything had been plug'n'play so far.

1903 was though way worse than 1809, because with 1809 I was easily able to achieve a situation where I had my dGPU RP555x running internal screen and eGPU rx480 running my external screen by making a autoninstaller of rx480 ( = uninstall it from device manager ) when shutting PC down. 1903 this dGPU+eGPU config seemed to be impossible, I always got black screen on internal screen when trying to use dGPU. With iGPU ( with iGPU fix ran from USB during boot) I got internal screen running, but I was not the most satisfied.

So 1903 was way worse than 1809 for my specific needs with RX480

Yesterday I decided to buy a RX5700 XT. Oh boy.

Found out immediately that DDU/any fix/any pci-e disablation ( disabled everything I could ) would not get my 5700XT out of error 12 with .418. Did not use too much time on it, cause this topic indicated that it might be impossible to get rid of error 12 on some AMD eGPUs.

Reinstallation of the Windows to 1809. DDU drivers, install https://www.bootcampdrivers.com/ drivers, couple of restarts, plug RX 5700XT in and - Ta-da - everything works again. dGPU driven internal screen, eGPU driven external screen. Soooo, it seems like I am staying out of 1903 game and wait until 1909 comes out, and is verified to be working at least with iGPU + eGPU config. 

I like that I can keep my dGPU online at all times, so I can game any time without my eGPU if I want to.

 

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@realistic

I'm running 1809 too... after a disastrous flirt with 1903.

I have an old 1607 that's my GM instal that never fails to get me back up and running when I have issues.

Swapped my Vega 56 for a 5700XT last night and didn't even have to reinstall drivers, it just worked (using rEFInd - not sure why rEFInd is so overlooked especially with the latest issues).

 

Had one BSOD when launching PUBG but that tend to happen with PUBG when I switch between cards, luckily it didn't corrupt my instal this time and I was back after a reboot, getting destroyed my bloody kids...

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@itsage @deduwka Thank you for helping! I've installed Windows 1903 V1 as you said and did all the mumbo jumbo wumbo dumbo and now it works flawlessly. Thank you guys so much!

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@nelson_ten

Glad it worked!

My transition, however (1803 → 1903), didn't go well dGPU-wise. I'm using the descrete RP560 while waiting for the enclosure to be delivered and noticed some severe lags and frame drops after I changed the build. I found out it's a frequent complaint about 1903 ruining game performance. So I'm planning to switch to 1809 for now, it's still available on the microsoft site.

Edit: turns out I can't roll back without losing everything, the options about keeping my apps and settings are all grayed out.

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Strange, I can't really tell as of yet if its working but in task manager it shows my 750M as working while its 0% on Vega 64..

 

 

Im not using an external monitor if that helps anyone clarify what's happening here.. do I need to disable PCI dGPU?

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Posted by: @deduwka

@nelson_ten

I had to change my windows build (I'm getting my setup eGPU-ready now) so I just downloaded an ISO in this situation. Just googled the build number, I looked for Win10 1903 V1.

After downloading I mounted & installed it and all my apps, settings and the licence were kept intact. Don't forget to disable updates inside the installer so it installs exactly what you've downloaded. I had to do some clean ups before I could successfully upgrade though: otherwise my system was returning an error and "undoing changes made to your computer". In my situation I was upgrading from 1803 manually as Windows Update stopped working for some reason. By clean ups I meant deleting previous update cache, closing everything and most importantly disabling the internet during the whole process. And it worked.

My build number says 18362.30 now and as far as I understood it's considered eGPU friendly as well. Will submit my build when it's ready.

I am planning to use my Mac Mini 2018 as a bootcamp gaming machine with an eGPU for the first time, trying to also get myself eGPU ready. I googled and found a Windows 10 1903 V1 iso that will install via bootcamp. Can you please provide any tips to make sure that it stays between 18362.295 to 30, as you were able to do to keep it eGPU friendly? I am not sure what to expect once I install this iso file. Thank you in advance for any advice. 

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@viciousmoth Turn off Windows Update in Services. Also create a manual restore point.

 

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This time, Microsoft has really done bad things!
On my imac 5k 2019 I had to go back to the 1809 version.
Even formatting and installing the 1903 v1 I get to the build .30 maximum and there is no way to get the .295.
With the .30 the egpu is recognized only sometimes and the bluetooth stops working when I turn on the egpu.
For now I'll stay like this, because everything works perfectly, but it's really a shame that an update ruins an entire setup.

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Posted by: @cuppino

Even formatting and installing the 1903 v1 I get to the build .30 maximum and there is no way to get the .295.

If you have v1 then you can download v295
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4512508/windows-10-update-kb4512508
https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB4512508

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how do I block updates for more than 35 days?

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@cuppino The "State of eGPU for Macs – Catalina 10.15 Update" post states:

Posted by: @itsage

The recommended Windows 10 1903 is OS Build 18362.295. Once your Mac is running this version, make sure to disable Windows Update in Services.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this means go into Task Manager (Control-Alt-Delete), Select Services, find "Windows Update" which is "wuauserv", right click and select "Stop".

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@cuppino

I have seen a couple of posts on here that instruct going into your network settings and turning on a metered connection for your ethernet and wifi connections (it is set on a per connection basis), and that should keep anything from automatically happening. Hopefully someone can confirm or build further on this.

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Posted by: @joevt

@cuppino The "State of eGPU for Macs – Catalina 10.15 Update" post states:

Posted by: @itsage

The recommended Windows 10 1903 is OS Build 18362.295. Once your Mac is running this version, make sure to disable Windows Update in Services.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this means go into Task Manager (Control-Alt-Delete), Select Services, find "Windows Update" which is "wuauserv", right click and select "Stop".

There is a much easier way.

1. Run CMD

2. Type gpedit

3. Navigate to

Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Windows update\Configure Automatic Updates

4. Click Radio button: Enabled

 

On the window on the bottom left "Configure automatic updating"

5. Select 2 (in pulldown)

 

What does this do? Instead of autoupdate when you click check for updates, the system will do it automatically but NOTIFY you that there are updates and give you the OPTION to download....

I repeat....It will notify you of updates (task bar) but it will NOT download nor will it install unless you click the download.

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Hello,

i have tried to no avail to get my vega to run.

i am at the point of both amd cards are detected (560x works, vega 64 has yellow bang in device manager)

once during install my external monitor did show an image briefly.

 

setup

mbp 2018 - 560x and intel gfx

razer core x with Asus vega 64 (tb3)

lg freesync monitor from vega cia hdmi

 

any help would be appreciated

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Posted by: @dacomb_bierton

Hello,

i have tried to no avail to get my vega to run.

I have some suggestions!

  • Which version of Windows you're trying to run? If you are running the latest version, you may want to rollback to version .293: You can check this by running "winver" and see what version is reported. If you need to roll back to a previous version you can:
    • Uninstall the update KB4515384 to roll back to a previous version
    • Block this update with the Troubleshooter provided by Microsoft (wushowhide.diagcab): https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/3073930/how-to-temporarily-prevent-a-driver-update-from-reinstalling-in-window
    • Also you may want to set your home network (wireless only) to a metered one, so you restrict your system from downloading updates.
    • Extra: If your user account starts being "buggy" after uninstalling, just create another user and see if it works. Most of the times this will resolve all issues with accounts.
    • [Note: All of these tips are listed throughout this thread!]
  • What drivers are you using? If you expect to also accelerate your internal display I recommend removing the drivers with DDU and installing the latest version available from bootcampdrivers.com - if not, you can go with the generic AMD drivers for the video card. Also please note that you have to remove the BootCamp AMD drivers with DDU to use the generic AMD drivers.
  • Also what type of Windows you're using? I think you are running Windows Home but not sure if that would cause incompatibilities... Probably not, as you are seeing the video cards in the device manager window

 

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I posted this elsewhere, but as this thread grows I'm hoping we have a sticky for this issue. Many subreddits point to us as how to fix this...

Updated: early results show build 449 also has the same failure. I do not see anything in the notes about the eGPU issue.

I'm not sure if the May 2019 update is still the version 3 (or .3 as the case may be). You'll want a .3 install, let Windows do all its updates.... then uninstall any (or all) of the following...

  • October 24, 2019—KB4522355 (OS Build 18362.449)
  • October 8, 2019—KB4517389 (OS Build 18362.418)
  • October 3, 2019—KB4524147 (OS Build 18362.388)
  • September 26, 2019—KB4517211 (OS Build 18362.387)
  • September 23, 2019—KB4522016 (OS Build 18362.357)
  • September 10, 2019—KB4515384 (OS Build 18362.356)
  • August 30, 2019—KB4512941 (OS Build 18362.329)

Once you're all set, you'll want to ONLY install the following...you want build 295 of 18362...

  • August 13, 2019—KB4512508 (OS Build 18362.295) which can be found Microsoft Update Catalog
    • "2019-08 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1903 for x64-based Systems (KB4512508)"
    • be careful one is for SERVER, that is not the one that will work with Bootcamp...
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@ttamnogard Thank you for compiling this list. I updated the OP with the information you provided. I will add another update to disable Windows Updates in order to keep Win10 1903 at .295 or lower.

 

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Build 449 has just come out but it looks like eGPU support is still broken. RX 580 on a nMP is still code 12.

Edit: Had an odd, fleeting moment of success - I disabled the secondary d700 and my screen went black. After it came back on, the RX 580 briefly showed no error. Then the Windows "device attached" sound effect chimed and Device Manager refreshed and showed the RX 580 with code 12.

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@itsage

I never wanted to learn about group policy editing. Thankfully it is robust and easy to do. With Razer as a big player in the eGPU game (obviously, a tiny fraction of a fraction) but their new stealth line comes with an Intel only base choice... it's a perfect use case for the egpu... (but I digress).

@aj_scarcella I updated my post if @itsage wants to use it! I just saw it hit while I was at dinner.

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With 18362.449 Radeon VII still does not work (error 12), RTX 2080 FE works.

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We're probably looking at the eGPU issue extending into 1909 as well. I'm now currently running 1909 (18363.449) and it's the same result at the moment.

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