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Problem with installing Thunderbolt drivers in Bootcamp for Akitio Node  

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Relvce
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 Hello,

I'm planning to build an egpu setup around my 2016 Macbook Pro 15" (Radeon Pro 455) to work in Windows and MacOs. I read this article from 9to5mac and I think I've got a good understanding of the process now.
Since the Akitio Node won't be available in europe until april/may the only thing I can do right now is installing the Thunderbolt drivers in Windows so I can update the firmware of the Node when I finally have it. 
I downloaded the same drivers as the guy from 9to5mac and installed them. But when I try to open the Thunderbolt program it says that the application is not supported by Bootcamp and that all Thunderbolt devices and computer networking will work correctly. I've also attached the error message but it's in german so most of you probably don't understand it.
So my question is: What did I do wrong? Do I have to install different drivers because I have the 15" Macbook Pro? Or do I really don't need any additional drivers? That would be weird because the guy from 9to5mac said that you have to install these drivers or otherweise the firmware update won't work.

I would be really happy if someone could clarify this and reveal the problem.

Thank you very much in advance!

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barrycraig
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I am having this exact problem. I'm in the UK and got my Node 10 days ago. It seems to have come with the new firmware as all is working fine in OSX but I cant get the Node to even show up in Bootcamp to check for sure.

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Relvce
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So does that mean that the node doesn't work in Windows?

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itsage
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Newer version of Intel Thunderbolt Software specially prevents installation on Windows via Boot Camp. I had success using an older version such as this one on Intel website –  https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/23742/Thunderbolt-Intel-Thunderbolt-driver

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Relvce
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Okay thank you I will try the older version later.
But is the Thunderbolt driver even necessary for setting up the Node in Windows or is it only useful for updating the firmware?

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itsage
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You don’t need the Intel Thunderbolt Software to use AKiTiO Node in Windows through Boot Camp. It’s only a requirement if you were to upgrade the firmware.

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Relvce
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Alright thank you very much! 🙂

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HughJass
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Did you manage to update your firmware?

I have managed to get windows to see the node once and the firmware tool still gave me errors of null pointer exception.

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Natasha
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Posted by: HughJass

 

Did you manage to update your firmware?

I have managed to get windows to see the node once and the firmware tool still gave me errors of null pointer exception.

   

How did you manage to get windows see the node ? Still trying to solve this question (if old thiunderbolt driver - "there are no installed tunderbotl software", in new - "this application (thunderbolt software) is not supported on Boot Camp")

Too many troubles with this Node....

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HughJass
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Heya,

I never managed to upgrade the firmware. The thunderbolt software and service was running but the node firmware tool would not work.

It just gave me a blank error modal then one telling me of a null pointer exception.

 

I managed to eventually get it working in windows but only once.

Personally, until apple, intel and nvidia get their heads together i dont think its worth the effort to try and get this up and running.

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Sh0ny
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Hello, I'm having the same problem as you. Literally a week ago I ordered Akito Node, and then the fun began, in my country there is no forum that sorts out these problems.

I have Akitio Node, GTX 980 Ti Macbook Pro 15 2015 Intel Iris Pro 5200 without a discrete video card, connect through the adapter TV3 -> TV2.

There is a positive experience on connecting to the OS OS according to these instructions.

It work only on external display

But unfortunately BootCamp Windows 10 could not be launched with the same ease after installing the old ThunderBolt drivers, as mentioned above and installing the NVIDIA drivers, rebooting the MacBook, when I try to enter the BootCamp with the connected EGPU, the eternal reboot starts. If you connect it later, the video card and the computer are detected, but it does not work. Please tell me in which direction to move?

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drax392
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I'm having similar issues with my nMP + Node + Win10 Boot Camp.  It works in macOS and it works when connected to an ASUS G750 with TB2 port, but with Boot Camp it's simply not happening.

Initially, Win10 booted and sensed something connected but didn't list anything in Device Manager.  While poking around, Win10 installed some updates and now 90% of the time Win10 will BSOD during boot regardless of whether or not the Node is plugged in.  It comes up with a KERNEL_SECURITY_CHECK_ERROR for the panic, I successfully rolled back to a previous restore point and was able to boot again, then the update was installed and the BSOD came back.  I haven't had a chance to disable automatic updates and roll back again yet.

This BSOD issue is almost certainly related to Thunderbolt, I can boot Win10 in Parallels without any issue.

So, the questions are...

  • Anyone else running into this specific BSOD error and if show have you found a fix?
  • Has anyone successfully and reliably gotten the Node to work in bootcamped Windows 10 on an nMP (Mac Pro 6,1) on the v23 firmware?  I have not been able to get the firmware updated yet, I'm trying to find someone local with Win10 and a TB3 port before I ship the Node board out to be updated by AKiTiO.

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Lucas
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Unfortunately that doesn't work if you are trying to update to the latest firmware anymore. Windows 10 here too.

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BillyBob
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I have iMac 18,3 4.2GHz i7, running High Sierra 10.13.4. I just received my Akitio Node 3 (from B&H Photo), and am using ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 1080 AMP Edition card.  I partitioned iMac's 1T SSD into 2 equal partitions.  Installed Windows 10 Pro via Boot Camp on one of the partitions.

Akitio Node 3 (not Node Pro) connected to one of the 2 TB3 ports on iMac. HDMI cable connects GPU's HDMI port to my Samsung 1080P HDTV. Downloaded & installed latest GPU drivers from Zotac Web site. After install, rebooted back into Win10, and BINGO!  I have mirrored monitors (iMac driven by RX580; Samsung HDTV by Zotac GTX 1080). BTW, this was OTB on the Akitio Node 3 - I didn't check any of the chassis firmware; nor did I have to do anything to Intel TB drivers on Win10 side.

FWIW... it's working for me as I hoped it would.  Hope you folks can find the secret sauce to getting it to work for you!  Cheers!
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So tomorrow im going to have access to a MBP 2017 i will be able to connect my akitio node thunderbolt 2. My thing is do i have to download the partition on his mac to update the firm ware? Also do i download the thunder bolt software in bootcamp? I see some people sending their cards to get the firmware update but no one really says how to do that part lol. Im thinking its as easy as connecting the thunderbolt 2 via thunderbolt3 to thunderbolt 2 adapter and downloading it in bootcamp and running the firmware? is that all? or do i do something in mac? I just want to make sure im not doing anything i dont have to im only gonna have an hour or so with it.

Also i found this! i guess it shows how to download windows without the bootcamp running it so you can view without firmware update. Im going to test if i cant update the firmware

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itsage
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@brian_basantes Thunderbolt 3 enclosures are the only ones you can update the firmware. If you have an AKiTiO Thunder2, there’s no firmware update for it.

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So then my Akitio thunderbolt 2 can't be updated 🙁 ok so my only option is to partition my windows like this video and my mac book will read It? Or should I just return this box and sell my mac book lbvs I've been trying to make this Akitio thunderbolt 2 work but it's seeming like it's not.

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henry10210
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Hello, should I expect 2013 Mac Pro (Windows 10 on Bootcamp) to enumerate a Akitio Node 3 (through TB2 adapter)?  The box's LED lights up and the fan turns but it does not show up in device manager.  I don't have a real GPU to put inside the Node 3.

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itsage
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@henry10210 The Mac Pro 6,1 firmware prevents eGPU from working in Boot Camp.

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OliverB
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Posted by: itsage

@henry10210 The Mac Pro 6,1 firmware prevents eGPU from working in Boot Camp.

It this a prevention by design or just a bug?

About the firmware update: It doesn't look possible to update the Firmware of Asus XG Station Pro with Bootcamp either. I have tried without success. Asus Service themselves said it must be done with a Windows PC.

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