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This is my egpu firstrike score(internal display). Is this normal?
 

[Solved] This is my egpu firstrike score(internal display). Is this normal?  

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(@yhk02240224)
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Laptop : Aorus X5 V7

CPU : I7-7820HK

igpu : Non-optimus

dgpu : GTX 1070

egpu : RTX 2080 black monster oc d6 8GB

interface : razer core x , thunderbolt 3

OS : Windows 10 - 18362

(internal display) dgpu firestrike score : 16,500

(internal display) egpu firestrike score : 12,271

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Laptop : Aorus X5-V7, CPU : I7-7820HK, iGPU : None, dGPU : GTX 1070, eGPU : RTX 2080, interface : Razer core X, ADT-Link R43SG(Nvme M.2)


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The_Livy
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@yhk02240224 do you have any possibility to do a test on an external screen? I see some performance loss on my internal screen myself as well but those numbers look a little far off.

2017 13-inch MacBook Pro TB
Aorus Gaming Box 1070 (EVGA GTX1060 3G) - silent mod #1
Aorus Gaming Box 1080 (standing by for use) - silent mod #2 (TBD)
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@the_livy

External display egpu firestrike score : 17,800

Laptop : Aorus X5-V7, CPU : I7-7820HK, iGPU : None, dGPU : GTX 1070, eGPU : RTX 2080, interface : Razer core X, ADT-Link R43SG(Nvme M.2)


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The_Livy
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@yhk02240224 are you absolutely sure the 12271 is from your eGPU? According to notebookcheck this score is very close to the internal GTX 1070 score. The external screen rating seems to be close to what Enki_bubu got on a similar build? Still looks like the card has a high performance loss from eGPU enclosures in general.

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2017 13-inch MacBook Pro TB
Aorus Gaming Box 1070 (EVGA GTX1060 3G) - silent mod #1
Aorus Gaming Box 1080 (standing by for use) - silent mod #2 (TBD)
How to undervolt your GPU


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@the_livy

This is sure to come from egpu. And the laptop gtx1070 internal score is between 16,000 and 18,000 normal. My gtx1070 internal score is 16,300 to 16,800. Egpu is overwhelmingly lagging behind dgpu.

Laptop : Aorus X5-V7, CPU : I7-7820HK, iGPU : None, dGPU : GTX 1070, eGPU : RTX 2080, interface : Razer core X, ADT-Link R43SG(Nvme M.2)


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@the_livy

I think there's something big wrong with my laptop. I'm very similar to the setting of Enki_bubu got, but there's an overwhelming performance gap.(Enki_bubu : External display egpu graphics : 21,113, my External display egpu graphics : 17,800) I think that's because my laptop is Non optimus. I don't have igpu.

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Laptop : Aorus X5-V7, CPU : I7-7820HK, iGPU : None, dGPU : GTX 1070, eGPU : RTX 2080, interface : Razer core X, ADT-Link R43SG(Nvme M.2)


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The_Livy
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@yhk02240224 are there any BIOS/UEFI settings that may limit TB3 bandwidth or performance?
How was it with a fresh Windows install? Maybe an update of something severely broke something for you?
Maybe you could give a live stick or external drive installation of Windows a go and see how that performs. I think rufus can create on the go Windows installations on USB volumes.

2017 13-inch MacBook Pro TB
Aorus Gaming Box 1070 (EVGA GTX1060 3G) - silent mod #1
Aorus Gaming Box 1080 (standing by for use) - silent mod #2 (TBD)
How to undervolt your GPU


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@the_livy

There are no settings related to TB3 in Bios/UEFI settings. And I didn't install Windows. This laptop is not Mac. This laptop has Windows 10 since its birth. This means that the manufacturer installs Windows 10 and ships the laptop. My OS is all up to date. I made all the updates. Nvidia and TB3 drivers are all up-to-date.

This is my egpu bandwidth. (P.S. I'm going to sleep. It's dawn here. Good night)

tb3 bandwidth
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Laptop : Aorus X5-V7, CPU : I7-7820HK, iGPU : None, dGPU : GTX 1070, eGPU : RTX 2080, interface : Razer core X, ADT-Link R43SG(Nvme M.2)


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Firestrike always seems to be abnormally low on the internal display. I wouldn't worry about it too much.

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@the_livy @odin

I have no intention of using egpu for external display. The reason why I bought the RTX 2080 is to use it on my laptop display. Unfortunately, TB3 causes a lot of performance losses on the internal display. So I'm considering connecting egpu to the Nvme M.2 slot. My laptop has Nvme M.2 slot. Nvme M.2 has less performance losses than TB3. Right?

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Laptop : Aorus X5-V7, CPU : I7-7820HK, iGPU : None, dGPU : GTX 1070, eGPU : RTX 2080, interface : Razer core X, ADT-Link R43SG(Nvme M.2)


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Posted by: @yhk02240224

So I’m considering connecting egpu to the nvme M.2 slot. My laptop has a Nvme M.2 slot. Nvme M.2 has less performance losses than TB3. Right?

A M.2 eGPU is considerably faster than TB3.  eg: With a XPS 9570 (i7-8750H) + GTX 1080 Ti, Forza 4 benchmark gives 70FPS on TB3 and 105FPS on M.2 here.

So if primary use of the eGPU is gaming and the candidate system has an free M.2 slot, then a M.2 eGPU is recommended over TB3.  M.2 eGPU adapters are also quite cost effective,  starting from US$20:

https://egpu.io/best-egpu-buyers-guide/#m2-interface

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eGPU Setup 1.35    •    eGPU Port Bandwidth Reference Table

15" Dell Precision 7510 (Q M1000M) (6th,4C,H) + GTX 1080 Ti @ 32Gbps-M2 (ADT-Link R43SG) + macOS 10.13.6 & Win10


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@nando4 @the_livy @odin

Great! I will try M.2 egpu. Thank you all for answering.

Laptop : Aorus X5-V7, CPU : I7-7820HK, iGPU : None, dGPU : GTX 1070, eGPU : RTX 2080, interface : Razer core X, ADT-Link R43SG(Nvme M.2)


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@nando4

Can I ask you a question? If my motherboard and M.2 adapter are not compatible, I heard that the motherboard can be burned down. Is this a joke? Or is it true?

Laptop : Aorus X5-V7, CPU : I7-7820HK, iGPU : None, dGPU : GTX 1070, eGPU : RTX 2080, interface : Razer core X, ADT-Link R43SG(Nvme M.2)


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joevt
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@yhk02240224 A motherboard may have firmware containing a whitelist that only allows certain types of M.2 devices to be used. There are instructions elsewhere (not here) to modify the whitelist of some motherboards. The whitelist is usually for WiFi cards. I don't think whitelists have ever affected an NMVe slot?

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@nando4 @joevt

There is an extra Nvme M.2 slot in my laptop. The manufacturer has created a separate Nvme M.2 slot in the laptop to allow users to mount additional SSDs. That is, the extra M.2 slot I have is not for a WIFI card. Therefore, my M.2 slot is less likely to have a whitelist.

Is there any case that the M.2 adapter was connected to the motherboard and burned down?

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Laptop : Aorus X5-V7, CPU : I7-7820HK, iGPU : None, dGPU : GTX 1070, eGPU : RTX 2080, interface : Razer core X, ADT-Link R43SG(Nvme M.2)


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joevt
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@yhk02240224

Test the M.2 slot with a normal M.2 NVMe drive.

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