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OliverB
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Some addition about overclocking: I tried to undervolt and overclock and Radeon VII, I could win some performance by overclocking from 1810 Mhz to 1920 Mhz. A bigger increase made the system instable. I retested the games where Radeon VII lost closely to GTX1080 Ti and there was just one game where it could close the gap:
Return of the Tomb Raider, 1440p MSAA, Preset Very High: 87,3 FPS. But on 4K, it lost again by a clear margin. So still the GTX 1080 Ti performs better in that game, too.

Last word on this: Radeon VII is still a powerful card, but it's not as good in gaming as a fast GTX 1080 Ti (e.g. EVGA). This is a marketing hoax. The Radeon VII would have great value if it was fully supported in MacOSX (like the Vega 64), but this is not the case. Yet.

2018 15" MBP & 2015 13" MBP connected to RTX2080Ti GTX1080Ti GTX1080 Vega56 RX580 R9-290 GTX680

 
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Here are the complete results of 26 games tested in 1440p (with AA), 20 games in 4k and 5k, and 10 games internal display (3k).

  Radeon VII GTX 1080 Ti RVII: 3K int. 4K 5K 1080Ti: 3K int. 4K 5K   AA/Preset
Crysis 3 50 50     50 37 32   50 50 42   SMAAx4
Doom (OpenGL) 37 160     23 40 37   54 85 54   TSAA(8TX)
Deus Ex Mankind Divided 32,1 45,3     29 32 23   42 36 23   MSAAx2
Far Cry 5 75 73     49 56 37   41 46 31   TAA
Metro Exodus 40,2 36,3     32 29 21   31 26 19   Ultra
Resident Evil 2 Remake 135 130     70 76 48   70 66 40   FXAA+TAA
Return of the Tomb Raider 80,9 87,2     52 76 51   57 83 59   SMAA
Shadow of the Tomb Raider 54 66     35 52 41   45 70 53   TAA
Shadow Warrior 2 101 120     70 57 35   70 67 42   Unknown
Wolfenstein II New Colossus 150 160     48 96 64   54 103 68   TSAA(8x)
                           
Alien Isolation 127 189                     SMAA
Ashes of the Singularity 57,5 62,9       55 40     57 48   MSAAx2
Assassin's Creed 3 120 145                     MSAATx2
Batman Arkham Origin 158 173                     FXAA high
Dishonored 129 129                     MLAA
Dreamfall Chapters 143 180       108 77     132 92   AA-High
Far Cry Primal 66 78       49 34     59 39   SMAA
Forza Horizon 4 64 67       50 39     53 42   MSAAx2
Hitman Absolution 90,3 107,7       80 53     87 60   MSAAx2
Resident Evil 6 59 120       58 42     85 58   FXAA3HQ
Shadow of Mordor 113,6 108,6       66 46     65 48   Unknown
Shadow Warrior 50 120       55 40     84 48   FXAA
Wolfenstein The New Order 50 60                     FXAA
Wolfenstein The Old Blood 12 48                     AAx8
Tomb Raider 111 143,8       65 39     81 49   AAx8
World of Tanks 113,7 141,8       67 43     87 55   TSAA
                           
Average FPS 85,4 107,8     46 60 42   51 71 48    


2018 15" MBP & 2015 13" MBP connected to RTX2080Ti GTX1080Ti GTX1080 Vega56 RX580 R9-290 GTX680

 
2018 15" MacBook Pro (RP560X) [8th,6C,H] + RX 5700 XT @ 32Gbps-TB3 (ASUS XG Station Pro) + Win10 & macOS 10.15.4 [build link]  


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The final results are: (Radeon VII  vs EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2)
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fps Radeon VII GTX 1080 Ti Won by
1440p 85,4 107,8 26%
3k internal 45,8 51,3 12%
4k 60,2 71,1 18%
5k 41,1 48,4 19%

 

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Graph

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Comment.
It Is still a good result for the Radeon VII. Despite of issues in some games it yields a good average for 60,2 in 4k Ultra settings. GTX 1080 Ti SC2 is 20% better though, but not in synthetic benchmarks. There both cards are much closer which brings the hope that with improvement of drivers the Radeon VII could close the gap between them.

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In case somebody cares about the Radeon VII performance:

I could reproduce the issues I am having with some games with a complete other card:

In a benchmark comparison between GTX Titan Black (6GB) and GTX 780 Ti (3GB), which only differ in memory (when gaming is concerned), I got the same effects with the GTX 780 Ti on some games at high settings @1440p. It's identical to the" Radeon VII Effect": You hold still, FPS are ok, you move, the FPS go down to 10 FPS.

Here it is expected as 3GB is simply to low, but the Radeon VII with 16GB? Looks for me a driver problem who misuses/overuses the memory.

2018 15" MBP & 2015 13" MBP connected to RTX2080Ti GTX1080Ti GTX1080 Vega56 RX580 R9-290 GTX680

 
2018 15" MacBook Pro (RP560X) [8th,6C,H] + RX 5700 XT @ 32Gbps-TB3 (ASUS XG Station Pro) + Win10 & macOS 10.15.4 [build link]  


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This is a cracking post Oliver, great to see the Vega VII tested fully. 
I just bought an RX 560 for a mini eGPU linked to my tv, holy cow performance is crap!

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar
GTX1060 + AKiTiO Thunder3 + Win10
GTX1070 + Sonnet Breakaway Box + Win10
GTX1070 + Razer Core V1 + Win10
Vega 56 + Razer Core V1 + macOS + Win10
Vega 56 + Mantiz Venus + macOS + W10

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LG 5K Ultrafine flickering issue fix

 
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Posted by: Eightarmedpet

This is a cracking post Oliver, great to see the Vega VII tested fully. 
I just bought an RX 560 for a mini eGPU linked to my tv, holy cow performance is crap!

A RX560 together with a Akitio Node Light it makes a fine, very good looking eGPU.  I was long time thinking of buying such one. I would like to have it paired with a WX5100, which is a little bit stronger than the RX560 and has 8 GB.

But it's not for high-end-gaming of course. It's more a good fine device to run an high resolution external monitor for workload, office and such stuff.  I hope, you are not too unhappy :/

2018 15" MBP & 2015 13" MBP connected to RTX2080Ti GTX1080Ti GTX1080 Vega56 RX580 R9-290 GTX680

 
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For additional information: I found two strong 75-Watt GPUs:

- nVidia Quadro P2000 (GP106)
-nVidia Tesla P4 (GP104)

Of course, both are very expensive, the latter one can only accelerate internal display and both are Non-Mojave fit.

2018 15" MBP & 2015 13" MBP connected to RTX2080Ti GTX1080Ti GTX1080 Vega56 RX580 R9-290 GTX680

 
2018 15" MacBook Pro (RP560X) [8th,6C,H] + RX 5700 XT @ 32Gbps-TB3 (ASUS XG Station Pro) + Win10 & macOS 10.15.4 [build link]  


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Aye little disappointed but I’m only planning on playing casual games while I wait for Navi. Will be doing a build post soon. Only prob is the switching of cards somehow killed my windows instal! Took about 4 hours getting it all reinstalled from scratch last night. Argh. Windows...

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar
GTX1060 + AKiTiO Thunder3 + Win10
GTX1070 + Sonnet Breakaway Box + Win10
GTX1070 + Razer Core V1 + Win10
Vega 56 + Razer Core V1 + macOS + Win10
Vega 56 + Mantiz Venus + macOS + W10

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LG 5K Ultrafine flickering issue fix

 
2017 13" MacBook Pro [7th,2C,U] + RX 5700 XT @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Mantiz Venus) + macOS 10.15.4 & Win10 2004 [build link]  


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