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anticipate
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Oh my I hope that is not the case. That would be very sad.  

I think it’s a bug though, because the eGPU still works for playback.  If Apple didn’t want the eGPU to look better than the iMac they wouldn’t allow the eGPU use at all. 

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ikir
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Posted by: Agris

Who's going to buy new iMac Pro, if You can connect eGPU to regular iMac haha. Apple solves that by disabling eGPU in FCPX 😀

Not the case, Apple is supporting eGPU. You could add another GPU to iMac Pro too. iMac Pro is wonderful, super CPU but all the rest too. I really hope this is just a bug.


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Posted by: ikir
Posted by: Agris

Who's going to buy new iMac Pro, if You can connect eGPU to regular iMac haha. Apple solves that by disabling eGPU in FCPX 😀

Not the case, Apple is supporting eGPU. You could add another GPU to iMac Pro too. iMac Pro is wonderful, super CPU but all the rest too. I really hope this is just a bug.

It would be nice if this were a certainty.  Unfortunately, corporations do not act in the best interest of their existing customer base sometimes;  they want you to buy new product.  This would not be the first time Apple has pulled such a move.  If you've been around long enough, you might remember the firewire support debacles, Mac Pro 32 bit EFI (multiple issues), and other clusters that didn't need to happen.

Sonnet has listed the MP 6,1 as unsupported for eGPU.  Don't think for a second Apple can't or won't arbitrarily unsupport some configuration.  The only thing that keeps them in check is a vocal user base.

So no, it's not too early for us to be sounding the alarm loud and often.

Consider this: It's 2007 and you just dropped $10k on a loaded cMP 2,1.  The 3,1 drops a month later with 64 bit EFI and powerful new GPUs.  You want to upgrade your GPUs.  They're not compatible.  WTF.  User base gets in an uproar.  Apple relents and releases 32 bit EFI versions of the 8800 and whatever else was available at the time.

Now it's 2018, and there have been ZERO GPU updates for the flagship product, the MP 6,1.  We NEED to be in an uproar.  Sonnet, their official vendor for eGPU, has listed MP 6,1 as incompatible.  How would you feel if you just dropped $10k on one yesterday, only to find out eGPU won't run, and there's no guarantee that it will in 2018.

Damn right people are going to to be out for blood.

Maybe it's a bug, maybe it's intentional.  Only way to get what we want is to demand it. 

 

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The reality is that if eGPUs were supported with FCPX 10.4, then the performance differences between the 4 core iMac & the new iMacPro would be small, and it would be hard to justify the price difference for many.  

To do: Create my signature with system and expected eGPU configuration information to give context to my posts. I have no builds.

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Posted by: kotlos

The reality is that if eGPUs were supported with FCPX 10.4, then the performance differences between the 4 core iMac & the new iMacPro would be small, and it would be hard to justify the price difference for many.  

Hmm... I am not sure the differences will be small, but I'd rather wait and see benchmarks. More cores can really make a difference in FCP I think. Don't know about hardware HEVC/H264 support though in those Xeon babies.

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You're right - the difference might not be SMALL.  Heh - easy to exaggerate a bit when we're miffed.  But, small enough to make a lot of folks consider adding an eGPU to a paid for machine.  And then that eGPU will simply transfer to the new machine.  Anybody here with a 1070 or better is not impressed by base iMac Pro GPU power.  And we've had our 1080s since when - 2016?

nMP owners with d700s already have 7 TFLOPs baseline.  Adding an eGPU with a 1080Ti gives you a nice boost at a pretty affordable cost.  Way less than iMac pro.  If you're GPU bound, it's a no brainer.

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Again it has to be a bug. They would disable eGPU entirely if it was intentional - and not only does it work for unrendered playback - it’s faster now. 

So the only issue is render out. (Btw compressor 4.4 is slower than FCPX 10.4 even though it shows eGPU use; 10.3.4 is the fastest). 

I am going to try it in clamshell mode too. Someone said that was fixed. 

How would one go about disabling the internal GPUs? 

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ikir
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For me it is the opposite, 10.4 finally works without locking up. 10.3.4 was not working for me.


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But are you getting eGPU aceleration?

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New 10.13.3 beta our today... start your testing engines 

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