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Alec
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There’s not much of a difference between the new dGPUs and GTX 1080 eGPUs when gaming on the internal display anymore. Even going to a 2080 will probably only give you a 40% increase. 

It seems like we’re past the days where an eGPU would have boosted internal display gaming by 3x or more. The bandwidth is just not there. 

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Eightarmedpet
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It would be great to have some more info to back up that claim... numbers, examples etc.

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Florin Samareanu
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At native resolution in World of Warcraft dx12 with maximum quality and CMAA I get 50-60 fps outside a city (16 inch 8GB VRAM). My enclosure isn’t here yet but I’ll update in 2 weeks or so. What fps do people see with egpu?

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Radeon drivers are bad for newly released GPUs. This has been the case for many years. Their recent lack of eGPU optimization of these drivers makes it worse.

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@alec

One advantage you will still get is lowering your laptop temps by offloading graphics. For sustained gameplay this may actually boost performance by reducing thermal throttling.

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Alec
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Black Ops 4 max settings is giving me around 50 FPS max settings with the eGPU. My 5500m 8gb dGPU is giving me around 40 FPS max settings. I’m running this game at the Mac’s native resolution, so there’s a lot of bandwidth usage for this display. 

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I would consider that 10fps to be a significant difference especially because you're taking the load and heat off the board but that's just me. I think a better title for this thread would be that dGPUs are becoming better but you will always be gated by heat. Try running a first person shooter at 200+ FPS and not frying your motherboard.

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Alec
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Posted by: @tsh3721

I would consider that 10fps to be a significant difference especially because you're taking the load and heat off the board but that's just me. I think a better title for this thread would be that dGPUs are becoming better but you will always be gated by heat. Try running a first person shooter at 200+ FPS and not frying your motherboard.

Frying a motherboard is just something that doesn’t happen. 

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Posted by: @alec
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I would consider that 10fps to be a significant difference especially because you're taking the load and heat off the board but that's just me. I think a better title for this thread would be that dGPUs are becoming better but you will always be gated by heat. Try running a first person shooter at 200+ FPS and not frying your motherboard.

Frying a motherboard is just something that doesn’t happen. 

I've destroyed multiple notebooks due to repeated gaming on the dGPU. At least 3+ (two dells, one MBP). Trust me it happens. Maybe "frying the motherboard" is the wrong term but since the dGPU is soldered to it that's why I called it that.

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Alec
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Posted by: @tsh3721
Posted by: @alec
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I would consider that 10fps to be a significant difference especially because you're taking the load and heat off the board but that's just me. I think a better title for this thread would be that dGPUs are becoming better but you will always be gated by heat. Try running a first person shooter at 200+ FPS and not frying your motherboard.

Frying a motherboard is just something that doesn’t happen. 

I've destroyed multiple notebooks due to repeated gaming on the dGPU. At least 3+ (two dells, one MBP). Trust me it happens. Maybe "frying the motherboard" is the wrong term but since the dGPU is soldered to it that's why I called it that.

Over what time period though?

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