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The ~US$140 ADT-Link R43SG-TB3 combines a M.2 eGPU adapter (R43SG), NVME-to-TB3 adapter (CY/cablecc) and 30cm TB3 cable.  It offers a lot of flexibity:

 

1.  Inexpensive - costs significantly less cost than a TB3 enclosure as seen in the Buyer's Guide

 

2. Can host an unlimited GPU size

 

3. Can use a ATX or Dell DA-2 PSU for input power

 

4. Optional: once sized up with (2) & (3), can build a custom enclosure around it

 

5. My favorite:  can use the eGPU adapter either with a higher-performance M.2 slot or TB3 port.   Or mix and match.

Choose which device (eGPU, NVMe SSD) will use which port (TB3, M.2). You do not get such a choice if buy a dedicated TB3 eGPU enclosure. Though this is more relevant to PC than Macs.

 

6. If not being used to host a TB3 eGPU, the NVME-to-TB3 adapter (CY/cablecc) and 50cm TB3 cable components can be used to host portable, fast external NVME SSD storage.

 

 

With (4), take a peek at the Forza benchmarks to see the greatest disparity in performance between these two interfaces (~60FPS on TB3 and ~100FPS on M.2 using a GTX 1080Ti). This may get the interest of gamers wanting to max out the performance of their eGPU.

The R43SG-TB3 would allow you to do this without impacting your storage by:

 

 

1. Splitting off the R43SG-TB3 into it's constituent R43SG M.2 eGPU adapter and CY/cablecc NVMe-to-TB3 adapter.

 

2. relocating your PCIe SSD into the NVME-to-TB3 adapter, attach it to your Thunderbolt port and boot of it. Both my Dell Precision 7510 and HP Elitebook 840 G5 support Thunderbolt boot. Incidentally, the 2-lane TB3 on the Elitebook 840 G5 means the 4-lane NVME M.2 port was always going to be a better performer for eGPU use.

 

3. using the M.2 port to host the R43SG to deliver near-desktop performance levels, 100FPS+ on Forza 4 with a  GTX 1080Ti.

 

ADT-Link PCIe x16 to TB3 eGPU Adapter

ADT-Link PCIe x16 to TB3 eGPU Adapter

Brand name: ADT-LINK

Product name: PCIe x16 to TB3 extension cable

Product model: R43SG-TB3

Transfer speed: PCIe3.0 x4 , 32G/bps (Max.)

Wire length: 25cm, 50cm

Application: eGPU

Power Supply Description:

Supporting power supply is DELL DA-2 8PIN 12V/18A/220W PSU, or standard ATX power supply. The power supply should be prepared by the buyer or purchased separately.

 

Cable length Description:

The length of the wire refers to the part of the visible wire. It does not include the PCB and the connector. For the wire length, please refer to the 50cm blue arrow in the figure below.

 

Package included 30cm Thunderbolt 3 type-c cable

 

Other Accessories:

Cable EMI shielding Description:

EMI Shielding with Conducting Polymer
The extender utilizes the latest materials for EMI shielding with five sole flat cables design. This technique allows each cable to be fully covered by electromagnetic interference shielding with conducting polymer to guard against incoming or outgoing emissions of electromagnetic frequencies, minimize disturbance and degradation on performance, and reduce the weight of the extender.

 

Photo:

 

http://www.adt.link/Uploads/image/R4/3D/O1CN015xyVaY1EFyPz3JwIY_!!3004660323.png

24P_ATX and 4P_CPU power input, 8P_GPU power output.

 

Product accessories, enclosed with the following graphics card power cord below

 

SW1, Power Forced Start Switch, 1 for automatic startup, 2 for forced startup, please cut to 1 for automatic startup.

SW2, PERST # signal delay switch, 1 delay 2.2 seconds, 2 delay 4.5 seconds, with eGPU software, for graphics card compatibility optimization, the current software does not support, please cut to 1

SW3, CLKRUN # signal delay switch, 1 is closed, 2 is delayed for 9 seconds, with eGPU software, for graphics card compatibility optimization, the current software does not support, please cut to 1

J1, PERST # signal delay switch, OPEN to open delay function, SHORT to close delay function, the current software does not support, please insert the jumper cap SHORT.

J2, CLKRUN_Capacitance Delay, currently the software does not support, only for R&D engineers plug in capacitance adjustment delay testing. It takes about 2.2 seconds to insert a 1uF capacitor, 5 seconds to insert a 2.2u capacitor, and so on.

Installation steps:
1. Install the hexagonal copper pillar and insert the graphics card into the PCIe x16 slot. The screw is tightened so that the graphics card will not shake or fall off.

2. Install ATX power supply or DELL power supply, including graphics card power cord should also be connected, after installed, DELL power supply will light orange lights.

3. You can plug in the TB3 cable when the computer is on. After connecting, the ATX power supply will automatically start the fan to turn. If you use the DELL power supply, the green light will turn on. At this time, the R3G board will turn on two green lights. The system will recognize the card automatically. Please install the graphics card driver. The installation of the driving process may prompt the computer to restart.

4. finish.

Download:

To open 3D PDF files. Please use Adobe Reader DC software.

3D PDF files download http://www.adt.link/Uploads/download/ADT_R3G_3D.zip

eGPU Setup 1.35    •    eGPU Port Bandwidth Reference Table

2015 15" Dell Precision 7510 (6th,4C,H) + GTX 1080 Ti @32Gbps-M2 (ADT-Link R43SG) + Win10 // compares M.2 vs TB3 performance


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@nando4 frankly, it seems again more financially viable to get a PCIe enclosure and then get a PCIe-to-M.2 adapter which go for around $15 on Amazon. All the use cases are covered as well and the experience is more pleasant because in addition to having bare PCBs out, you can also elect to have stuff neatly inside the enclosure.

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@gmanny, if intending to use the eGPU only on a Thunderbolt interface then sure, the R43SG-TB3 is not so financially suited.

What if you'd like to see 100FPS in Forza rather than the 60FPS you're getting using your Thunderbolt 3 port? If so, then the R43SG-TB3 would allow you to do this without impacting your storage by:

 

1. Splitting off the R43SG-TB3 into a R43SG M.2 enclosure and a NVMe-to-TB3 enclosure.

2. relocating your PCIe SSD into the NVME-to-TB3 enclosure, attach it to your Thunderbolt port and boot of it.

3. using the M.2 port to host the R43SG to deliver near-desktop performance levels, 100FPS+ on Forza 4 with your GTX 1080Ti.

 

I have tested this on my Elitebook 840 G5 which has Thunderbolt boot support, as do the Dell XPS/Latitude/Precision systems and it works great, Forza 4 results here. It has a 2-lane TB3 port so was always better suited to using the 4-lane M.2 port for the eGPU.

You can see the flexibility here to choose which device (eGPU, NVMe SSD) will use which port (TB3, M.2). You do not get such a choice if buy a dedicated TB3 eGPU enclosure.

eGPU Setup 1.35    •    eGPU Port Bandwidth Reference Table

2015 15" Dell Precision 7510 (6th,4C,H) + GTX 1080 Ti @32Gbps-M2 (ADT-Link R43SG) + Win10 // compares M.2 vs TB3 performance


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@nando4 ooh, a very good point, thank you! I kinda haven't thought about the M.2 direct attachment as I'm only in the Thunderbolt 3 game at the moment. But now I want one of these for my XPS 15! Smile

Now that got me thinking - the Akitio Node Pro that I have has a pretty dumb PCB that receives the PCIe signal and I wonder if the connector on the TB3 mainboard is standard enough that I could replace the TB3 mainboard with a riser plugged into the aforementioned M.2-eGPU adapter. Very interesting stuff!

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Hello, I live in Brazil and here is really hard to find enclosures to buy. Actually, there is none at the moment to buy. The only I could find (Razer Core X) is being sold by 1100 USD. So my backup plan now is the R43SG-TB3. My quest is: Is there a way to build this eGpu and daisy chain it with a thunderbolt hub?

My plan is to build a dock with an eGpu and some USB ports. Is that possible?

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Hi, im very impressed because the price in the official store now is 130$, not 250$ like in aliexpress !!!!!!!
i just want to confirm some doubts before clicking that sweet BUY button...
i want to use it with a macbook pro mid 2015 and a radeon vega 64 trough thunderbolt 2.

the question is:

If i buy this adapter, the GPU card (i read vega 64 needs at least 600w), a standard ATX power supply (this one for example: https://www.ebay.es/itm/650W-Gaming-PC-ATX-Power-Supply-PFC-Silent-Fan-4-PIN-for-Desktop-Computer/352821051008?hash=item5225c5fe80:g:MCgAAOSwm6xdoTEi ), a TB3 to TB2 adapter (apple´s official) and a TB2 to TB2 cable, and i plug it all together... will i have a monster macbook pro 😀 😀 ?? or at least... will it work? is it compatible with macbook or i should go straight for the razer core X??or it´s just as compatible as the core X??

I searched info but i can´t find allmost any information about this device in youtube, reviews in Amazon or any other place...

Any answer or suggestions are really appreciated... if anyone tried it with a mac and can tell us the experience would be so useful!!

Thanks in advance for all, and congratulations for this awesome website!!

cheers!!

 

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@neich03, there doesn't appear to be any reports of this particular R43SG-TB3 product on here.  Keep in mind the ADT-Link R43SG-TB3 combines a M.2 eGPU adapter (R43SG), M.2-to-TB3 adapter (CY/cablecc) and 50cm TB3 cable. 

We've had reports of use of the ADT-Link R43SG with other M.2 adapters:

Finally, there is no question the ADT-Link R43SG is a great standalone product given several M.2 builds with it:

https://egpu.io/builds/?table_filter ="R43SG"

 

 

eGPU Setup 1.35    •    eGPU Port Bandwidth Reference Table

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@nando4

Boomshakalaka! thank you so much for your fast and precise answer! watching your experience and @itsage ´s case, i think i shouldn´t have problems with the R43SG-TB3 right? if it worked with other m2 to tb3 adapters... why souldn´t work with the official ADT-link adapter....?right?

so i think i will go for it and i´ll tell you as soon as i test it.

Big thanks again!! Awesome website!!

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@neich03 It should definitely work. The best performance use like @nando4 suggested is a direct M.2 connection if your computer has a support M.2 slot. Thank you for sharing the news on the lower price of this R43SG-TB3 product. It's great to see Thunderbolt 3 devices are getting more affordable.

Regarding the power supply, it depends on your chosen graphics card. For many a Dell DA-2 220W power brick (about $20) would be a good choice. Going with an ATX PSU is also good but it has more wires and fan noise. Please share your R43SG-TB3 build with us once you put it together.

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@neich03

Looking over @itsage build link, I don't think it will work on a MB Pro with TB2.

See this reply:

Posted by: @itsage

@sernie It's likely not going to work through Thunderbolt 2 interface because the UTE02 main board needs bus-power from the Thunderbolt 3 port. Using the Apple Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt adapter would not provide bus power. If your 2015 27" iMac has the Fusion drive, it's actually the best Mac to use this ADT-Link R43SG M.2 eGPU adapter. You can swap the spinning drive out for SATA 2.5" SSD, then pop the ADT-Link R43SG M.2 connector into the iMac PCIe SSD slot using a NGFF NVMe M.2 adapter. The PCIe extension cable can be routed through the rear exhaust vent cutouts. Piggyback the eGPU on the iMac stand with something like the Twelve South Backpack.

 

Have you ordered the adapter?

140$ is a sweet deal, way more convenient in terms of price than any other enclosure out there. And you can personalize it by creating your own custom case...but it just might not work. I'm in the same situation as you. LoL

 

 

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@neich03 @itsage @nando4

I've been researching this option for quite some time now. Taking my chances and purchased the R43SG-TB3 from Ebay.

Very excited to see how it pairs with my Red Devil 5700 XT and Mac Mini.  I'm also testing the Wavlink M.2-TB3 with the Sabrent 2TB Rocket SSD. 

I know NVME (pcie gen 4) - TB3 is a crazy bottleneck but would be great to have when I decide to upgrade to a full PCIe Gen 4 build.

Will run all the bench marks and should have results in a few weeks.

 

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What percentage of performance loss does the internal LCD acceleration with the R43SG generate? I would appreciate if anyone shared their percentage.

Laptop : Aorus X5-V7, CPU : I7-7820HK, iGPU : None, dGPU : GTX 1070, eGPU : RTX 2080, interface : Razer core X, ADT-Link R43SG(Nvme M.2)


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Posted by: @str

@neich03

Looking over @itsage build link, I don't think it will work on a MB Pro with TB2.

See this reply:

Posted by: @itsage

@sernie It's likely not going to work through Thunderbolt 2 interface because the UTE02 main board needs bus-power from the Thunderbolt 3 port. Using the Apple Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt adapter would not provide bus power. If your 2015 27" iMac has the Fusion drive, it's actually the best Mac to use this ADT-Link R43SG M.2 eGPU adapter. You can swap the spinning drive out for SATA 2.5" SSD, then pop the ADT-Link R43SG M.2 connector into the iMac PCIe SSD slot using a NGFF NVMe M.2 adapter. The PCIe extension cable can be routed through the rear exhaust vent cutouts. Piggyback the eGPU on the iMac stand with something like the Twelve South Backpack.

 

Have you ordered the adapter?

140$ is a sweet deal, way more convenient in terms of price than any other enclosure out there. And you can personalize it by creating your own custom case...but it just might not work. I'm in the same situation as you. LoL

 

 

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It arrived today and i´ve been the hole afternoon trying to make it work with any results... it doesn´t seem to work trough tb2... maybe because the power bus issue @itsage mention in his answer... if i understood, the power to make the m2.nvm to tb3 work, should came from the tb3 port, and the tb3 to tb2 adapter acts as a "filter" for that power supply right? or... it´s also because the tb2 doesn´t give that power?? well, in any case that lack of power to the m2.nvm to tb3 adapter seem to the the main problem right? maybe any way to power it separately??

Furthermore, it has a strange behavior: When switch on the power supply, the gpu´s fans doesn´t work. it overheats until i have to power it off...
if i take out the J1 jumper (just while it´s powered on)... the fans start moving but in any case the computer recognize the egpu... 

if i plug it into a standard PC (hackintosh with high sierra), when i turn it on, fans move inmediatly and the system recognize it same way...

i disabled de IPS an installed the purge-wrangler in my mbp... nothing...

i wish i had read your answer before... i think i won´t be able to have a refound sending it back to our chinese friends...

i´ve being looking for a m2.nvme to tb2 adapter to avoid using the tb3 to tb2 adapter but it seem to don´t exist...

i can´t make it work with this setup and mojave....F&%$·%&ck!!!

Any ideas, suggestions are really apreciated!! thanks to all guys!!

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@neich03 The M.2 Thunderbolt 3 board needs about 2.5W of Power Delivery in order to power on. The adapter would disconnect from the computer if PD drops below this level. Through the Apple Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt adapter, there's no bus power unfortunately. I've used a USB-C power meter to observe a Wavelink UTE02 M.2-TB3 enclosure and during idle it pulled 2.5W. When I ran the NVMw SSD inside, it went up to about 6.5W.

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@neich03

You could connect it to a Thunderbolt 3 device that has two Thunderbolt 3 ports.
https://www.sonnettech.com/product/echo-express-sel-tb3/overview.html
https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-thunderbolt-dock/

If you by a Thunderbolt 3 PCIe enclosure then you could just connect the GPU directly to that (you may need a riser cable and you would still need the separate PSU). You could add a PCIe to NVMe adapter and connect the R43SG or similar M.2 to PCIe for the GPU.

That all adds cost, so you might as well have purchased a real eGPU in the first place.

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Edit/Solved:
I found a similar posting where TB3 devices weren't recognized on an Intel NUC.  Sure enough, the drivers which ship with the Hades Canyon are old and won't allow TB3 connections without an update.  The Intel auto update utility won't do this for you.  Users must manually download and updated the driver, as well as install an app from the Windows App Store to allow the connections.  My GPU is now recognized, and the D3/RST red LED is gone.

Original Post:
I'm trying a new setup, but have been unsuccessful. The D3/RST LED is lit red.  Fans on my GPU and power supply are spinning.  The GPU isn't being recognized.  The closest I can guess is that it has to do with the red LED.  Does anyone know what this LED is for, and how I can resolve the error?

PC - Intel Hades Canyon NUC (NUC8i7HVK)
OS - Win10 1909
GPU - ASUS Dual-GTX1070-O8G
PSU - EVGA 600W Bronze

I have photos of my setup and the error led, but I'm having issues attaching the pictures.

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PC - Intel Hades Canyon NUC (NUC8i7HVK)
GPU - ASUS Dual-GTX1070-O8G
PSU - EVGA 600W Bronze
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R43SG confirmed to work with a 2015 15" MBP (M370X) and RX 580. Corsair MP510 960GB + Asus hyper m.2 x4 mini + Netstor TB2 card + NP953ABP also fit into the Sonnet enclosure.

- macOS Catalina 10.15.2: no workarounds needed, the RX 580 works as if it was a built-in GPU
- Win 10 Pro: apple_set_os.efi required



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@goalque, you appear to be the first to attach a M.2 eGPU to a MacBook. More impressive here is it's with a TB2 Macbook, which with it's x4 3.0 M.2  port, sees over two times more bandwidth than with a TB2 eGPU.

Did you want to share this pioneering effort as a complete build?

eGPU Setup 1.35    •    eGPU Port Bandwidth Reference Table

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Posted by: @nando4

More impressive here is it’s with a TB2 Macbook, which with it’s x4 3.0 M.2  port, sees over two times more bandwidth than with a TB2 eGPU.

Sadly we can't even do this on a TB3 MacBook Pro/Air since no accessible PCIe endpoint besides Thunderbolt exists :p

@goalque nice work on that. Do apps appropriately utilize the eGPU (such as Heaven) [on internal display]? During the High Sierra/set-eGPU era, @nando4 had a Hackintosh (laptop) running an eGPU but was not able to utilize it on internal display because it was not detected as an eGPU (IIRC - as in this case - makes sense why). Headless adapter trick would still work as fallback.

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@goalque This is an excellent setup! Please share more information in a build guide. I believe the only non-TB3 Macs that can take advantage of this M.2 eGPU adapter at full x4 PCIe 3.0 are the 2015 15" MacBook Pro and 2015 27" iMac.

 

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@nando4, @itsage Yep, my pleasure. It could be a 2015 15” MBP master thread. I also tried with an Oculink PCIe 3.0 x4 adapter and 32Gbps cable but no success so far.

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@goalque nice work on that. Do apps appropriately utilize the eGPU (such as Heaven) [on internal display]? During the High Sierra/set-eGPU era, @nando4 had a Hackintosh (laptop) running an eGPU but was not able to utilize it on internal display because it was not detected as an eGPU (IIRC - as in this case - makes sense why). Headless adapter trick would still work as fallback.

The prefer external GPU option is not visible. Valley wants to use the M370X. 

SafeEjectGPU gpus
gpus
2020-01-29 19:59:47.306 SafeEjectGPU[791:13103] Device PreExisted [000000010000040f] Intel Iris Pro Graphics
2020-01-29 19:59:47.306 SafeEjectGPU[791:13103] Device PreExisted [0000000100000430] AMD Radeon RX 580
2020-01-29 19:59:47.306 SafeEjectGPU[791:13103] Device PreExisted [0000000100000432] AMD Radeon R9 M370X
gpuid 0x904c - AMD Radeon R9 M370X
registryID=0x0000000100000432 discrete 
location - BuiltIn
locationNumber - 1
GPUNumberAtLocation - 1
maxTransferRate - 0
gpuid 0x6545 - Intel Iris Pro Graphics
registryID=0x000000010000040f integrated 
location - BuiltIn
locationNumber - 0
maxTransferRate - 0
gpuid 0x7030 - AMD Radeon RX 580
registryID=0x0000000100000430 discrete 
location - BuiltIn
locationNumber - 1
GPUNumberAtLocation - 2
maxTransferRate - 0

SafeEjectGPU gpuids 0x7030 LaunchOnGPU /Applications/Valley.app/Contents/MacOS/valley

LaunchOnGPU app /Applications/Valley.app/Contents/MacOS/valley total gpus 0x1
2020-01-29 20:08:59.358 SafeEjectGPU[814:15579] Device PreExisted [000000010000040f] Intel Iris Pro Graphics
2020-01-29 20:08:59.358 SafeEjectGPU[814:15579] Device PreExisted [0000000100000430] AMD Radeon RX 580
2020-01-29 20:08:59.358 SafeEjectGPU[814:15579] Device PreExisted [0000000100000432] AMD Radeon R9 M370X
2020-01-29 20:08:59.439 SafeEjectGPU[814:15579] succeeded sendOpenEventOnGPU

However, on the external monitor the RX 580 is fully utilized but it has to be connected on startup. Hot plugging or disconnecting the display does not seem to work.

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@goalque Thank you for the report with how macOS treats the M.2 NVMe eGPU adapter connection. What about Windows Boot Camp? I think Windows Hybrid Graphics would do a better job in terms of identifying a Power Saving Graphics and High Performance Graphics. We're looking forward to seeing your master thread on the 2015 15" MacBook Pro!

 

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@itsage Yes, internal screen acceleration should be easier on Windows but I haven't tested much yet.

The opening for the eGPU I/O bracket at the back was too narrow and I had to relocate the R43SG out of the case, in order to use eGPU display cables. My kitchen table is a bit messy now 😀 Let's continue discussion on the master thread as soon as it is ready.

 

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ahhh!! just the thread i needed. past few days I've been going nuts, scheming in my head if this would work or not. thank you @goalque !!! any plans on a "quick disconnect" with this setup?

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Posted by: @itsage

@goalque This is an excellent setup! Please share more information in a build guide. I believe the only non-TB3 Macs that can take advantage of this M.2 eGPU adapter at full x4 PCIe 3.0 are the 2015 15" MacBook Pro and 2015 27" iMac.

 

Hi can you explain abit more on this? Will this work on an early 13” 2015 since it uses only tb2?

Thanks.

 

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@chyen My statement was in the context of using the M.2 eGPU adapter directly through the 2015 15-in MacBook Pro PCIe SSD slot. It does not work through a Thunderbolt 3 M.2 board + Apple Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt adapter. If you want to use the ADT-Link R43SG with your 2015 13-in MacBook Pro, you have to remove the internal PCIe drive to use that slot for eGPU. Thunderbolt 2 ports on the laptop can only be used with Thunderbolt 2/3 eGPU enclosures.

 

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@itsage

Yes I am aware of that too. Don't your Macbook Pro 15" do the same by removing the internal drive and boot it with an external drive? I don't really know what are the difference of the internal ports between all the Macbook models but my question is why 2015 15" is the only non TB3 macbook that can run M.2 eGPU.

I am new here and currently looking a way to improve my graphic performance without using external monitor. Thanks!

 

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@chyen In full context, I wrote "the only non-TB3 Macs that can take advantage of this M.2 eGPU adapter at full x4 PCIe 3.0 are the 2015 15" MacBook Pro and 2015 27" iMac." There are other non-TB3 Macs that can use the M.2 eGPU but not at full x4 PCIe 3.0 speed.

 

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@itsage

Thanks for your quick reply. Fully understand now. I just searched abit and now have a one last question.

pcie 2.0 is 16gbps per lane so x4 is about 64gbps, which is still considerably faster than a 40gbps TB3 (or half of pcie 3.0x4)

Is my calculation correct? 

 

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@chyen The max bandwidth through the x4 PCIe 2.0 SSD slot in the 2015 13-in MacBook Pro is 1,5XX MB/s when I tested.

 

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@itsage

So it will be around 12Gbps. Not worth doing this then I guess. Thanks for you clarification.

 

*I don't think the calculation is right, I will study more on this.

 

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Posted by: @chyen

pcie 2.0 is 16gbps per lane so x4 is about 64gbps, which is still considerably faster than a 40gbps TB3 (or half of pcie 3.0x4)

PCIe 2.0 is 5 GT/s per lane which is 4 Gbps (because of 8b/10b encoding) = 500 MB/s (8 bits per byte), so x4 is 2000 MB/s, but not all of that is data, plus there is some overhead, so it's about 15xx MB/s.

Thunderbolt 3 is 22 Gbps or 2750 MB/s for PCIe traffic (the rest of the 40 Gbps can be used by DisplayPort).

PCIe 3.0 x4 is about 3500 MB/s (after overhead).

The PCIe 2.0 SSD slot might be faster than Thunderbolt 3 for gaming even though Thunderbolt 3 has more bandwidth because it has less latency than Thunderbolt 3.

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So I am thinking of building a eGPU setup to aid my rendering work and gaming for my laptop. I currently have Macbook Pro 15 from 2017 with i7-7920hq and Radeon Pro 560. i have already installed windows on it, as I have been using it for the better part of a year now. I recently got hold of a free MSI GTX 970 and I want to hook it up to my Macbook. my budget is around $100-125 minus the GPU, i am somewhat broke and can't afford a proper enclosure like a Razer core x. What specific hardware do i need to accomplish this? from my understanding, i need a PCIe x16 3.0 card, a PSU, and a Thunderbolt 3 connector. What specifically will be best for my setup?

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Hey folks,

 

im kinda new but also not. I once had a semi functional egpu BPlus setup many years ago using my mini pci-e port on my notebook with a 2nd gen i7. Had a LOT of troubles back then, with hardware and software (TOLUD too high, setup 1.x did not work properly, egpu adaptor was broken at one point and suddenly my GPU and so on), but I liked the idea and loved it, when it worked.

 

I now got my hands on a Lenovo Thinkpad x1 carbon 5th gen (i7 7th gen) with TB3.0 and want to give this whole idea another shot. I was surprised when I saw, how much changed over the years and that there are now proper commercial solutions to hooking up a gpu to a system. But just like a few years ago, I want to keep the costs low for this build, so I chose to take a look at the ADT Link R43SG TB3 adaptor. The link from the best eGPU enclosures thread lead me to Aliexpress, showing that the adaptor can be aquired for as low as about 130 bucks - nice! 

 

But from what I don't understand due to poorly translated chinese description - If you take a look at this link Here, I understand that this is ONLY the adaptor from pcie/m.2/whatever to TB3.0 or the whole cable from the PCB including the Thunderbolt connector, NOT the PCB itself, where you place the GPU on - Right? Otherwise I can't understand, why there's a listing, also on Ali, where you can buy the 'same' setup for 260 bucks (Here). 

 

Since I don't have the adaptor / PCB itself, I can't do anything with just the cable, you know 😉 I hope someone can figure this out and give me a tip on what to buy. Thanks in advance!

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@hari_raman,  you need a power supply and a Thunderbolt to M.2 or PCIe adapter.
https://egpu.io/forums/which-gear-should-i-buy/thunderbolt-3-external-drive-slot-m-2-ngff-adapter/
The Thunderbolt part is at least $75. Add adapters and PSU to that.

 

 

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