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mattlukezahra
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anyone has any recommendations of what i can replace the bottom extraction fan with ? something more silent and RGB maybe ?

Thanks

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Yukikaze
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Posted by: mattlukezahra

anyone has any recommendations of what i can replace the bottom extraction fan with ? something more silent and RGB maybe ?

Thanks

RGB isn't my thing. I replaced mine with a Noctua 92mm fan.

Want to output 4K@60Hz out of an old system on the cheap? Read here.
Give your Node Pro a second Thunderbolt3 controller for reliable peripherals by re-using a TB3 dock (~50$).

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2020 14" Lenovo ThinkBook Yoga 14s [11th,4C,G] + GTX 1080 Ti @ 32Gbps-TB4 (AKiTiO Node Pro) + Win10 20H2 [build link]  


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mattlukezahra
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Would that be this if I may ask ? http://tiny.cc/b6sb5y even for me RGB isn't important for me but wouldn't mind having a still colour,

Thank you very much for your reply

Kind Regards

Matthew

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Yukikaze
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I don't remember the exact model I used, but yes, it was one of 92mm beige Noctua options.

Want to output 4K@60Hz out of an old system on the cheap? Read here.
Give your Node Pro a second Thunderbolt3 controller for reliable peripherals by re-using a TB3 dock (~50$).

"Always listen to experts. They'll tell you what can't be done, and why. Then do it."- Robert A. Heinlein, "Time Enough for Love."

 
2020 14" Lenovo ThinkBook Yoga 14s [11th,4C,G] + GTX 1080 Ti @ 32Gbps-TB4 (AKiTiO Node Pro) + Win10 20H2 [build link]  


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John Everett
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If the Node Pro enclosure has a 500w power supply, with up to 400w of power for a PCIe card, how is it that people are reporting that it doesn't work with, e.g., AMD Vega cards? At TechPowerUp.com, they list power consumption (under peak gaming and sustained Furmark tests) of various GPUs, and even the max power consumptions of even top end cards are all under 400w -- the highest are 350w for Radeon VII, and 309w for Vega 64, and even the RX 580 shown in this review is listed as 219w, with the Vega 56 not much higher at 237w.
[source: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-5700-xt-nitro/30.html]

Why wouldn't these cards work with 400w available? Am I missing something? Are people maybe also using the TB3 power delivery at the same time (up to 120w more draw), and thus going over the available power? If TB3 power delivery was avoided (maybe by using a connected charger or a better power source in another connected device) would it assure the up to 400w card power is available, and thus allow even Vega 64 or Radeon VII cards to work?

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John,

I plugged a Vega 64 into my Node Pro (default build, no custom PSU). It worked perfectly.

However, I did deduce from the experience that the Vega 64 drivers, at least for 64bit Windows 10, are totally unoptimized or the ATI drivers are somehow totally ineffective, because the Vega64 in the Node Pro would NOT drive my 8K monitor satisfactorily, there would be little lags. Especially video playback would be a disaster.

I purchased a Geforce 1080Ti - this is partially a sin because Nvidia does not offer open source drivers, so you end up locked up to basically closed-source Windows and Linux drivers, disaster - anyhow on Windows, with the 1080Ti on the Node Pro, UI:s project perfectly and video playback is quite excellent too. 8K video playback largely works, the video decoding engine in Windows Taskbar shows about 95% load when you play back 8K@60fps and there is some light stuttering, however 8K@30fps and 4K@60fps are perfectly fine.

I previously also tried the Sonnetteck Puck 570 to drive the 8K monitor, that also did not work well at all.

Therefore I unfortunately advise against any ATI/Radeon card for Thunderbolt use. Anyone else please step in and correct me if you had any other experiences. Also please note I did not evaluate Linux or other OS:es for the Radeon Node Pro, only Windows, with great luck Radeon on Node Pro on Linux or other OS would be a good experience.

 

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Node Pro is clearly the best Thunderbolt eGPU box and shame on Intel for not allowing eGPU certified boxes to have a daisy chain connector and therefore not allowing Node Pro to be called an eGPU box.

Node Pro is heavily under-marketed as it's the best device on the market. It's a spotless experience.

Also please note I have not at any point heard the PSU fan activate on the Node Pro, both with Nvidia and Radeon. I unplugged the Node Pro's chassi fan. The 1080 Ti will tend to enable its own fan at a low RPM during normal 8K desktop use.

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jeverett
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I actually found this info at the Akito site:

We recommend using a PCIe card with a power consumption of 400W or less but depending on the situation, the card can consume up to 485W.
• Total power of the built-in PSU: 500W
• Power consumption of the Node Pro: 10-15W
• Maximum power on PCIe slot: 75W
• Power delivery: Up to 60W per port (usually only the laptop on the first port requires that much power)
• Bus powered Thunderbolt device on second port: 15W

If the Node Pro is connected to a computer that does not draw power through the Thunderbolt connection and there is no Thunderbolt or USB device attached to the second Thunderbolt port, the remaining power for the PCIe card is around 485W. If the Node Pro is used to recharge the laptop and a bus-powered Thunderbolt device is connected to the second Thunderbolt port on the Node Pro, the remaining power for the PCIe card is only around 410W.
-- https://www.akitio.com/faq/333-node-pro-what-is-the-maximum-power-the-pcie-card-can-consume

I am fine with getting power delivery from a different source, so shouldn't that mean a GPU which draws less than 485W, which should mean pretty much any GPU, even a Radeon VII (drawing 350w), should be workable?

Or is the power requirement more complicated than that -- like maybe the numbers at https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-5700-xt-nitro/30.html aren't accurate, or maybe when Akitio says around 485W it doesn't really mean a full 485W?

Or it is maybe when people complain about a GPU not working in the Node Pro, they are encountering a different (non-power) issue that might be only applicable to a specific use case?

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jeverett
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I need a Mac supported solution, so I'm stuck with the options of:
1) RX 580, Vega 56/64, or Radeon VII (under Mojave)
or
2) Radeon RX 5700 XT (if I can upgrade to Catalina, which maybe be trouble for me now)

I'm looking just for raw computer GPU applications (hashcat and Davinci video work), and thus realtime responsiveness/lack of stutter isn't make or break for me. As such, I'm leaning toward the Radeon VII, but that's the biggest challenge power-wise, a lots of people make a big deal about the Node Pro's power supply size, even though from the numbers (I can see), it looks like it should work.

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ebolam
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@jeverett

Tom's Hardware quotes the radeon VII at 300 watts. The power supply in the Node Pro should be able to do that. 

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-vii-vega-20-7nm,5977-5.html

I've got a 5700xt and had a 580 in it without issue, including a water pump and fans (not that those are high power....) 

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cmm
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Guys, the Node Pro's PSU *IS* replacable. Remember it's the normal SFX, not SFXL, however I recall there's some.. 800W? 750W? PSU on the market in this dimension??

I think I suggest you buy the Node Pro and check if its bundled PSU suffices for your usecase, and quite likely it does. Only if you see system instability would you need to go buy the ultrapremium PSU replacement.

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