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1xxx Nvidia series driver is theorically coming

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February 6, 2017 4:37 pm  
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@0xPCP

1xxx Nvidia series driver is theorically coming

   

Theoretically sounds like a long way off. 


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February 7, 2017 2:13 am  
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Posted by: ikir

 

 


@0xPCP

1xxx Nvidia series driver is theorically coming

   

Theoretically sounds like a long way off. 

   

We all pray… we all…

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February 7, 2017 9:39 am  

At this point in time, it’s unlikely Nvidia will release driver support for Pascal GPUs. Web drivers with Maxwell support came right around the 7-month mark of GTX 980 release date. GTX 1080 was released in late May 2016.


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February 7, 2017 9:40 am  

The only way I see these drivers becoming available is if Pascal GPUs become standard in some Mac variety, but with the Apple-AMD affair that we have going on, I don’t think this is very likely.

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February 7, 2017 9:45 am  

I know, that’s why I went for the 980. Next one will be an AMD (such a blasphemy for my inner nVIDIA self – long live 3dfx Voodoo Graphics). But not this year. I believe that the 980 will serve me well for 2017. 

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February 7, 2017 11:09 am  
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At this point in time, it’s unlikely Nvidia will release driver support for Pascal GPUs. Web drivers with Maxwell support came right around the 7-month mark of GTX 980 release date. GTX 1080 was released in late May 2016.

   

I’ve based my idea on this:

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/956855/geforce-drivers/nvidia-macos-web-drivers-for-geforce-gtx-1080-release-time-/

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February 7, 2017 1:11 pm  

A string “GP100” is the only sign.

Binary file /System/Library/Extensions/NVDAStartup.kext/Contents/MacOS/NVDAStartup matches
Binary file /System/Library/Extensions/NVDAStartupWeb.kext/Contents/MacOS/NVDAStartupWeb matches

It will be unofficial if we see some sort of support. A good example is natively supported GTX 780 which outperforms GTX 980’s web driver in Valley benchmark on macOS 10.12.3:

https://egpu.io/forums/thunderbolt-enclosures/unboxing-powercolor-devil-box-thunderbolt-3-egfx-enclosure/#post-2303


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February 7, 2017 5:38 pm  
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@theitsage The source is me, and is actually an RX480 running in an Akitio Thunder 2 under both Windows 10 (dGPU enabled) and Mac OS (dGPU enabled). Supporting all modern graphics APIs, even Metal. Not sure about Akitio Thunder3/Node though as I don’t own a 2016 Macbook.

   

@FricoRico – how are you powering the Graphics Adapter on the Akitio Thunder 2? Do you have an external PSU hooked up to it? Which one? How did you connect it? I’m planning to run a HD 5870 Eyefinity 6 with it on a Mac Mini 2014 (TB2 ports) – would that work? I’m using El Capitan (10.11.6).

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February 8, 2017 8:57 am  
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It will be unofficial if we see some sort of support. A good example is natively supported GTX 780 which outperforms GTX 980’s web driver in Valley benchmark on macOS 10.12.3:

https://egpu.io/forums/thunderbolt-enclosures/unboxing-powercolor-devil-box-thunderbolt-3-egfx-enclosure/#post-2303

   

So, if i read your information correctly, some AMD gpus should outperform 900 series nVIDIA gpus just because they have native support (R9 M380/M390/M395/M395X, Pro 450/455) ? Because I would like not to overpay for a 980 to get the same result as a RX 460. I looked for some benchmarks but I could not find any.

I found this thread by @ikir where his RX 480 (1080p 2AA score of 1837) is heavily outperformed by the GTX 980 (2463/same settings) or even by the GTX 970 (2209/same settings) – although according to GPUboss GTX 970 < RX 480 < GTX 980

I also found this thread by @theitsage but sadly there is no Valley benchmark for the RX 470. But instead I found this benchmark which puts the R9 Nano (1080p 8AA score of 1630) below yje GTX 980 (2231/same settings) and the GTX 970 (1822/same settings) – although according to GPUboss GTX 970 < GTX 980 = RX Nano

So, maybe the RX series suffers from the same issues as the GTX 900 series? Not native drivers? Compared to GTX 700 native drivers?

 

How about this series: https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-R9-380-Gaming-Graphics/dp/B010BNACE4  (or any GPU from the same family) It looks like the same GPU used in the 5K iMAC right? If that is natively supported by Apple, I would switch gladly.

It will be unlikely to ever run out of GPU power on normal day usage of my setup, but always aim higher no? 😀

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February 8, 2017 9:11 am  
Posted by: Mehenn

 

Posted by: goalque

 

 

It will be unofficial if we see some sort of support. A good example is natively supported GTX 780 which outperforms GTX 980’s web driver in Valley benchmark on macOS 10.12.3:

https://egpu.io/forums/thunderbolt-enclosures/unboxing-powercolor-devil-box-thunderbolt-3-egfx-enclosure/#post-2303

   

So, if i read your information correctly, some AMD gpus should outperform 900 series nVIDIA gpus just because they have native support (R9 M380/M390/M395/M395X, Pro 450/455) ? Because I would like not to overpay for a 980 to get the same result as a RX 460. I looked for some benchmarks but I could not find any.

I found this thread by @ikir where his RX 480 (1080p 2AA score of 1837) is heavily outperformed by the GTX 980 (2463/same settings) or even by the GTX 970 (2209/same settings) – although according to GPUboss GTX 970 < RX 480 < GTX 980

I also found this thread by @theitsage but sadly there is no Valley benchmark for the RX 470. But instead I found this benchmark which puts the R9 Nano (1080p 8AA score of 1630) below yje GTX 980 (2231/same settings) and the GTX 970 (1822/same settings) – although according to GPUboss GTX 970 < GTX 980 = RX Nano

So, maybe the RX series suffers from the same issues as the GTX 900 series? Not native drivers? Compared to GTX 700 native drivers?

 

How about this series: https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-R9-380-Gaming-Graphics/dp/B010BNACE4  (or any GPU from the same family) It looks like the same GPU used in the 5K iMAC right? If that is natively supported by Apple, I would switch gladly.

It will be unlikely to ever run out of GPU power on normal day usage of my setup, but always aim higher no? 😀

   

My benchmark is in 4k, i can rerun it in fullHD

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February 8, 2017 9:20 am  

Please! – I always run my benchmarks in retina 1080 (3840×2160)

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February 8, 2017 9:28 am  

@Mehenn: I didn’t mention AMD. They all perform poorly in OpenGL – the max frame rate is stuck at ~40FPS in Valley.


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February 8, 2017 9:33 am  

@golaque: that sucks 😀 I was hoping we can get more out of Apple native drivers. So by now only the GTX 970 will be the best native supported GPU (to bad I didn’t found any with 2++ DP ports)

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February 8, 2017 9:49 am  

I guess you meant to say GTX 780. It is supported natively, you can use -skip-web-driver option. Remember that we have Metal API and OpenCL as well. 


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February 8, 2017 10:03 am  

my mistake. 780 😀

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February 8, 2017 10:07 am  

Am I right in assuming that the GTX780Ti is also natively supported (since the 780 is)? If so, the best OS X video card that you can commonly find is a used eVGA GTX780Ti Classified Kingpin Edition. It sells for around 200$ on ebay (a bit higher on buy-it-now listings) and there seems to be a lot of them around. With its 23% overclock over the stock GTX780Ti it should rival a GTX980 for sheer horsepower, but with the better driver support it should blow it out of the water.

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February 8, 2017 10:10 am  

@Yukikaze, and no headache following Mac OS updates.


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February 8, 2017 10:23 am  

Do you guys know any 780 with 2 or more DP? It also uses 250W, so bye bye Dell DA-2. I guess is to much for me to change…

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February 8, 2017 10:30 am  

Every single GTX780 or GTX780Ti on the Techpowerup GPU Database has 1xDP, 1xHDMI, 2xDVI. So I’d have to say it simply doesn’t exist.

EDIT: The same is true for the GTX Titan and GTX Titan Black, so it looks like it is simply not possible to drive two 60hz 4K displays off a Kepler-based card.

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February 8, 2017 11:31 am  

I’ve seen misleading information that GK110B wouldn’t be supported by default OS X drivers. My GTX 780 is the rev. 2 with GK110B chip and it works without the web driver. The performance difference (GTX 780 native / GTX 780 web) was not significant in Valley benchmark. Not sure if 6GB makes any difference.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/b3285/evga-gtx-780-sc-w-acx-cooler-6-gb

Yes, TITAN BLACK and and GTX 780 Ti may work natively too as they have the same chip. I don’t own either of these, so cannot confirm.

This may go off-topic…

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February 8, 2017 4:13 pm  
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Please! – I always run my benchmarks in retina 1080 (3840×2160)

   

Extreme HD preset

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February 8, 2017 4:30 pm  

Thanks!!! 

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February 8, 2017 4:47 pm  

Here’s my result: MBP11,1 -> Apple 2m Thunderbolt cable -> Apple TB2-to-TB3 adapter -> Devil Box -> RX 480 -> DP-DP cable -> U28D590 monitor:

So TB3 does not bring more speed in Valley bench.

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February 8, 2017 5:13 pm  

@ikir: It’s worth to see if you’ve “Displays have separate spaces” checked under Mission control. It was turned on in my test. All other apps closed. It may have some effect, especially when testing internal screen performance. If there are other apps and windows open across both displays, it will yield a lower score.


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February 9, 2017 12:52 am  
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@ikir: It’s worth to see if you’ve “Displays have separate spaces” checked under Mission control. It was turned on in my test. All other apps closed. It may have some effect, especially when testing internal screen performance. If there are other apps and windows open across both displays, it will yield a lower score.

   

@goalque
No other apps running, but “display have separate spaces” is turned on (and very handy). Do you suggest to turn it off?

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February 9, 2017 3:28 am  

Guys, have you notice they changed the price from 249 to 269 since more than a week?? I was about to order one (even that I live in Europe and the customs are superhigh… and the costs was more than USD400) but now…

Would love that amazon could sell it too here… and I would be more than happy to get one of  this or a Core… but nothing here.

Very disappointing.


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February 10, 2017 5:15 am  

Still waiting for Node to become available in italy… any more rumors about the new AKitio box with 60-80w PD?

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February 10, 2017 9:03 am  

Well over £300 atm in the UK for the Node… 


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February 10, 2017 1:53 pm  

@ikir: The setting didn’t make any difference in my TB2-to-TB3 test (no other apps).

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Still waiting for Node to become available in italy…

 It’s not in stock but can be ordered:

http://www.blitzmicro.com/epages/990252024.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/990252024/Products/1264

 


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