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awesome thanks again Ed

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Nice result from this tiny setup with 1050Ti

 

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@deplomb mod, looks amazing on AKiTiO Thunder3 silver, just great. 

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Here's some of my setup.

First a comparison between the Galax/KFA2 GTX 970 OC Mini and the Galax/KFA2 GTX 1070 OC Mini. Very small differences such as the 2x6-pin power connector on the 970 vs the 8-pin on the 1070. Also you will notice that the 1070 have a 5mm longer metal fan bracket as well as a heat pipe protruding 5mm above the PCB. That did look as a deal breaker but is nothing to worry about as it does not interfere with the Thunder casing. A 60x25mm fan will not fit inside the chassi with the 1070. A 60x20mm probably will but it will be a tight fit.

As of now it's an open setup but I'm working on two different cooling designs and as soon as I've some progress to show I'll post them as well.

Galax/KFA2 GTX 970 OC Mini

KFA2 GTX970 OC MINI

Galax/KFA2 GTX 1070 OC Mini

KFA2 GTX1070 OC MINI

Galax/KFA2 GTX 970 vs GTX 1070

KFA2 GTX1070 OC MINI vs GTX970 OC MINI

Galax/KFA2 GTX1070 OC Mini in the Akitio Thunder3

KFA2 GTX1070 OC MINI Akitio Thunder3

Galax/KFA2 GTX1070 OC Mini heat pipe clearance in the Akitio Thunder3

KFA2 GTX1070 OC MINI Heatpipe

 

I forgot the benchmarks. As you can see the 10Gb Thunderbolt is a bit saturated and can not deliver enough even though my Mac mini is a quad core i7. Although the 1070 pretty much is on par with the 970 in lower resolution, it delivers about 40% better frame rates in 1080P when i did the GFXBench tests. 

GTX 970 crop
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GTX 1070 ultra crop

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@Username Great setup and pictures, i will add this to main post, after your post that show us that 1070 can fit in AKiTiO Thunder3, Thunder2 and AKiTiO Node Light, mini-eGPU is level UP, after EVGA GTX 1060 SC 6GB was top GPU for mini-eGPU now Galax/KFA2 GTX 1070 OC 8GB is the king 🙂 Thank you for your pictures. You can add 20, 15 or 10mm fan to fit inside Thunder3 🙂 

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Now this group will be delighted by the new akitio node lite, with ti83 and space grey color!! For the tiny lovers...

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Posted by: ed_co

 

Now this group will be delighted by the new akitio node lite, with ti83 and space grey color!! For the tiny lovers...

   

Not only the space gray by the new Node Lite but also with the Galax/KFA2 GTX 1070 Mini that fits inside - more power, more colours, the same mini-eGPU- 

(AKiTiO Thunder3 & Thunder2 & Node Light) 233x149x76  vs. 428x227x145 (AKiTiO Node)

best price, best size and no noise from PSU....

 

ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
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Posted by: enjoy

 

Posted by: ed_co

 

Now this group will be delighted by the new akitio node lite, with ti83 and space grey color!! For the tiny lovers...

   

Not only the space gray by the new Node Lite but also with the Galax/KFA2 GTX 1070 Mini that fits inside - more power, more colours, the same mini-eGPU- 

(AKiTiO Thunder3 & Thunder2 & Node Light) 233x149x76  vs. 428x227x145 (AKiTiO Node)

best price, best size and no noise from PSU....

If you can stand with the power brick ;). I prefer the internal PSU, but JIMHO.
Another thing, I thought that there were a 1080, that can fit inside them as well... right?

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Posted by: ed_co

If you can stand with the power brick ;). I prefer the internal PSU, but JIMHO.
Another thing, I thought that there were a 1080, that can fit inside them as well... right?

yes Zotac 1080 Mini can fit also inside (if you cut the plate where the front fan is), but we can't close the cover because the Zotac 1080 mini is just a bit too tall 🙂

ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
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Posted by: enjoy

 

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If you can stand with the power brick ;). I prefer the internal PSU, but JIMHO.
Another thing, I thought that there were a 1080, that can fit inside them as well... right?

yes Zotac 1080 Mini can fit also inside (if you cut the plate where the front fan is), but we can't close the cover because the Zotac 1080 mini is just a bit too tall 🙂

   

oh, too bad. there is no other brand?

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Akitio Node Light seems nice, at least with TI83... TI82 is a disaster on Mac in my experience.


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Posted by: ed_co
 
oh, too bad. there is no other brand?

No, the one and only 1080 mini is from Zotac, i will repeat my words again and in this thread that for me after tons of benchmarks and test  1080 is not wort it for eGPU for the high price and the huge performance drop we have i add some bechmarks that confirm my words

I post my result from my eGPU:

Second i post the Razer Blade with dGPU 1060 VS. 1070,  1080 & 1080Ti in eGPU:

From that you can see that 1070,  1080 & 1080Ti shows the same (or close) FPS as the dGPU inside Razer Blade and after my results are close to he Razer Blade you must know that if I move for example from 1060 to 1080 i will have the same (or close) gaming experience like now... 

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6). Finally, was it worth it? It really depends. As Enjoy has documented there is a serious law of diminishing returns here. The gains are not dramatic but incremental, and there is less of a jump going from the 1070 to the 1080 than from the 1060 to the 1070. In terms of price for performance, the 1070 is kind of a sweet spot. You really have to take seriously what Enjoy and Yukikaze pointed out: you're not going to see substantial increases in frame rate as you go up in external GPUs but resolution. In my use case, I play on 4K-3D and I'll take whatever FPS I can get, and some games just weren't playable on the 1070. On the 1080 they do get over the threshold of playable FPS though just barely.  What is interesting is that even though I hit a ceiling on framerate, I can increase my graphics settings on 4K-3D at the same FPS, which is quite nice.   

 

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ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
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Here's <beer up in air> to hoping there will be a group buy on Node Lite!

 


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I'd like to add that, for 1080p gaming, I think Enjoy is bang on. I think the situation changes somewhat though for 4K Gaming and gets more complex. When you go from 1080p to 4K on a desktop GTX1080 fps is going to plummet obviously. For example, Rise of the Tomb Raider (at max. settings) goes from ~100+fps down to~47fps. On an eGPU GTX1080, the fps at 1080p shows a huge loss against the internal GPU at ~59fps, but at 4K, I'm also getting ~47fps on an eGPU. So, as you go up in resolution things start to even out—somewhat.

 

If only it were that simple. The thing is these performance deltas seem to vary a lot over different titles and applications. So, for ROTR, I think I'm getting somewhere around the numbers that a desktop GTX1080 is getting at 4K. Well optimized games like Battlefield 1 have me approaching 60fps at 4K, maxed out! I think that's insane for an eGPU. I have to be clear, that I'm heavily overclocking, and also that this can only be done with a really good power supply. But, nevertheless, this all makes me feel the GTX1080 was worth it. On the other hand….

 

Badly coded titles bring the dream of a GTX1080 in an eGPU down to a depressing slog. Enjoy showed graphs for Andromeda. Andromeda is just the worst, for so many reasons (and yet, I still want it to be good). Just as Enjoy was writing his post I was trying to get Andromeda in 4K-3D to be playable at any settings, and I couldn't. Seeing 12fps come out of a GTX1080 really takes the wind out of your sails. In the end, I had to use med. settings and scale resolution to 80% just to get it to 20-24fps. In this case, I’m sure I could do way better if I just threw my components into a mini-ITX build. So, if you’re thinking of a GTX1080, you really have to consider your specific application. 

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wait what the hell lol node light did i miss something? i literally got my thunder3 in the mail today! whats the difference with the thunder3 and the node light? because this thing will go right back to the store lol

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@edwardsean: You might have some performance issue with your eGPU setup...

As far as I understood, you're running Mass Effect: Andromeda on a 2016 Macbook Pro through thunderbolt 3. This is near impossible you have so much drop in performance running this game!

This user on Reddit tested ME:A with a GTX 1070 SC and reported pretty good 60 fps in 1080p in Ultra and this is through thunderbolt 2!

 

"I have a maxed-out 2014 rMBP 2.8ghz i7-4980HQ 16GB paired with a 1070 SC via Akitio Thunder2. I'm playing away very happily in ME:A at ultra-everything 1080p. Occasionally frames drop to the 30s in complex areas, but this is almost exclusively in narrative parts. Combat is fast, smooth and furious — 60+ FPS the majority of the time."

https://www.reddit.com/r/eGPU/comments/62lhzq/mass_effect_andromeda_with_an_egpu/

 

What is the exact model you have? Is it dual or quad core? How much is the CPU clock rate? Do you have the latest drivers installed? Are you experiencing overheating?

 

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Hi Antharsious,

Thanks so much for looking out for me! This is a great community. 

Yes, everything is up to date and running well.  I didn't t mean to exaggerate, 12fps is during a dip. It is disheartening though.

The thing is the person you mentioned is happily at 1080p, and I'm trying to run at 4K. An internal desktop GTX1080 will drop to 32-39fps for ME:A at that resolution. Then, add in 3DVision and the frame rate can drop again by half.  That is 16-19.5fps on an internal desktop GTX1080! So my numbers are not so far off. Running 4K-3D is pretty demanding!

Thank you though sincerely. 

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Posted by: eight bit hero

 

wait what the hell lol node light did i miss something? i literally got my thunder3 in the mail today! whats the difference with the thunder3 and the node light? because this thing will go right back to the store lol

   

 

https://www.akitio.com/expansion/node-lite

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Posted by: enjoy

From that you can see that 1070,  1080 & 1080Ti shows the same (or close) FPS as the dGPU inside Razer Blade and after my results are close to he Razer Blade you must know that if I move for example from 1060 to 1080 i will have the same (or close) gaming experience like now... 

So, in your opinion, what is worth it? 1070? I think that 1060 is too low, spending so much money in a case, and just put a 1060... IMHO.

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Posted by: ed_co

 

Posted by: enjoy

From that you can see that 1070,  1080 & 1080Ti shows the same (or close) FPS as the dGPU inside Razer Blade and after my results are close to he Razer Blade you must know that if I move for example from 1060 to 1080 i will have the same (or close) gaming experience like now... 

So, in your opinion, what is worth it? 1070? I think that 1060 is too low, spending so much money in a case, and just put a 1060... IMHO.

   

For gaming with eGPU now the GPU chart is something like that:

  • GTX 1060, RX480, RX580 - HIGH/ULTRA gaming with 1080p on External Display or Internal Display
  • GTX 1070 - ULTRA gaming with 1080p on External Display or Internal Display
  • GTX 1070MID/HIGH gaming with 1440p on External Display or Internal Display
  • GTX 1080 & 1080TI - HIGH/ULTRA gaming with 1440p on External Display or Internal Display
  • GTX 1080 & 1080TI MID/HIGH gaming with 4k only External Display

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I want to post some info about the power of Dell DA-2 220W can provide:

I know that 25-30W power is needed for the AKiTiO motherboard, fans etc. so we have 190-195W power remaining!

From these power consumption tests we can see that Dell DA-2 220W is not enough for 1080 (it work, but it won't be stable), but power is enough and will be stable for GTX1070, GTX1060, RX470 and RX480. (not stable if you overclocked GTX1070 and RX480, but you can overclock 1060 and RX470 without problems)

ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Later 2013) 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i7-4750HQ / 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 / 256GB SSD + 1TB
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Very handy information to visualize @enjoy 

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If you think Dell DA-2 is too big, you can always hide it under your desk with cable manage like SIGNUM from IKEA ($12):

 

ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Later 2013) 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i7-4750HQ / 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 / 256GB SSD + 1TB
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Posted by: Yukikaze

 

A heads up: It looks like the AMD side of the pond has finally decided to give us a small card more powerful than the RX 460. The Sapphire Radeon Pulse RX 570 ITXI can be now purchased for ~175$. The card needs extra 6-pin power, but is small enough to fit into a physically unmodified Thunder2 or Thunder3. I am disappointed by the video outputs, however. It really should have had 3xDisplayPort and 1xHDMI. DVI needs to die.

   

EVGA GTX 1060 SC 6GB on the left 172,7 x 111,1 mm | Sapphire Radeon RX 570 Pulse MINI 4GB mini on the right 170 x 112mm

If it is 112mm tall and this is the real size i think RX570 mini will fit inside Thunder2, Thunder3 and Node Light, but who cares we have EVGA GTX 1060 SC 6GB and it is better (or the same) than RX580 too:

Thanks to @itsage EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC performs the same as RX 580 8GB in eGPU using External Display (Monitor) with again little advantage for RX580 in DX12 and little advantage for GTX 1060 in DX11:

ALIENWARE 13 R3 EVGA 1060 6GB SC EGPU RX 580 8GB EGPU
Unigine Valley 2,408 2,070 (49.5 FPS)
Unigine Heaven 1,363 1,267 (50.3 FPS)
Unigine Superposition 2,073 2,518 (18.8 FPS)
3DMark Time Spy 3,677 4,206 (28.3 FPS)
3DMark Fire Strike 11,005 13,079 (61.2 FPS)
     
Metro Last Night Redux 71 FPS 73.4 FPS
Rise of the Tomb Raider 47.83 FPS 56.6 FPS
Tom Clancy's The Division 40.8 FPS 28.8 FPS

UPDATE: On the actual pictures RX570 looks smaller:  https://imgur.com/a/nlPcx#jKdTVvP (gallery)

ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Later 2013) 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i7-4750HQ / 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 / 256GB SSD + 1TB
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Hi guys, hope you're having a nice weekend. I'm going to move this off the main thread, but first I was wondering if I could get some feedback on something. 

As I posted before my results with the GTX1080 have been mixed. It's awesome to have this kind of power in an eGPU, but I wonder how much performance I am leaving on the table. From what I've read it seemed like putting a GTX1080 in an eGPU may be a bit of a waste. I always balanced this out with the consideration that, at 4K, performance between an internal and external GPU starts to even out. Still, weak performance on titles like Andromeda, Quantum Break, Arkham Knight made me think I am just not getting what this card has to offer.

I started to toy with the idea of transferring the card to a mini-ITX build, and found a fantastic case in the NFC S4 mini. We all like small, or we wouldn't be here, and that case is a work of art in miniaturizing. But, before I sink that kind of money into this I had to get serious about tracking down my performance bottleneck. So, I finally just installed Unigine to get a bead on some reference benchmarks. 

What I found was this: At 4K, I'm getting the same performance as a desktop GTX1080 within a couple frames–I think anyway. I'm not sure which is why I'm asking for help. What it looks like is that my sometimes disappointing fps comes down to my insisting on 3Dvision. (3D can cut numbers up to half whether you're on an internal or external GPU.)

On the eGPU score in Heaven thread, I posted my 4K Unigine tests and links to internal GTX1080 benchmarks. I found desktop GTX1080 reviewers running Heaven at 4K and repeated their tests on my eGPU. To summarize:

1) 4K|Ultra|8X-AA|Tessellation: extreme. Internal GPU:  27.3/ eGPU: 27.1

2) 4K|Ultra|4x-AA|Tessellation: normal. Internal GPU: 32/ eGPU: 30.2

3) 4K|Ultra|No-AA|Tessellation: extreme. Internal GPU: 34.8/ eGPU 33.3

(By the by, overclocked, I get that couple of frames back)

If this is right, there's no need to spend another $1,200+, double up on components, and add extra bulk. The performance loss over a full desktop build is nominal. The GTX1080 is not wasted in an eGPU implementation at 4K, and it's for these higher resolutions that you would want the 1080. I am brand new to all of this though, so I wanted to ask those more experienced, which is, you know, all of you. Can this be right? I know the bandwidth delta between even Thunderbolt3 and PCIe is massive by multiples. Did I miss something here?

 

 

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mini-eGPU vs. eGPU - the choice is yours:

AKiTiO Node Pro vs. AKiTiO Node vs. AKiTiO Node Lite (the same size like AKiTiO Thunder2 and Thunder3)

ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
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Posted by: enjoy

 

mini-eGPU vs. eGPU - the choice is yours:

AKiTiO Node Pro vs. AKiTiO Node vs. AKiTiO Node Lite (the same size like AKiTiO Thunder2 and Thunder3)

   

I understand why you love your mini eGPU setups. What a pity about the external PSU brick!!

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Smaller and with less fan noise

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Posted by: ed_co

I understand why you love your mini eGPU setups. What a pity about the external PSU brick!!

   

No noise and the Dell DA-2 is under my desk - i can't see it without sitting on the floor under my desk 🙂

Nobody have problem with external PSUs as every laptop comes with it, the size of the Thunder2, Thunder3 and now Node Lite vs. Node and other eGPU boxes are just funny but this is IMO. 

For me its better to have Desktop PC without performance drop like this (8.20 in video says is about the same size as Core and Node is even bigger):

..... than to have Node or other big eGPU box, but again this is IMO 🙂

everyone have a choice... but all other eGPU boxes are huge very huge for me... 

I also have two DA-2 PSUs one at work and one at home and i move just my Thunder2 with GTX 1060 (only 2kg) with me when i want to play games at home or at work (i have own business, so yes i can play games at work)...

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I'd like to connect a usb 3.1  usb c sata box to my  thunder3's second thunderbolt port..... but I have to understand if there is any performance drop and if my dell da-2 is able to power on the sata drive and my 980 strix.

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Posted by: vava726

 

I’d like to connect a usb 3.1  usb c sata box to my  thunder3‘s second thunderbolt port….. but I have to understand if there is any performance drop and if my dell da-2 is able to power on the sata drive and my 980 strix.

   

Yes, daisy chaining a USB-C 3.1 USB drive off a Thunder3 second port will use a portion of the 22Gbps TB3 “data” bandwidth when active. A better way to connect to prevent this bandwidth overhead is to connect the USB 3.1 drive directly to your host system’s USB-C 3.1 port.

eGPU Setup 1.35    •    eGPU Port Bandwidth Reference Table

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vava726
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Posted by: nando4

 

Posted by: vava726

 

I'd like to connect a usb 3.1  usb c sata box to my  thunder3's second thunderbolt port..... but I have to understand if there is any performance drop and if my dell da-2 is able to power on the sata drive and my 980 strix.

   

Yes, daisy chaining a USB-C 3.1 USB drive off a Thunder3 second port will use a portion of the 22Gbps TB3 "data" bandwidth when active. A better way to connect to prevent this bandwidth overhead is to connect the USB 3.1 drive directly to your host system's USB-C 3.1 port.

   

If the controller has been integrated on the pcb there would be no drop ? Is the dasychain the problem ?

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Everyone has their own considerations that make a GPU build right for them. I personally agree with Enjoy. Purely from a size perspective, if I were using the space of a Node or Razer Core, I would consider a mini ITX build. From what I've seen, the NFC S4mini is the smallest one available and it is gorgeous. It is less than a third the size of the Node (4.3L vs. 14L). The next batch will require no modification of a mini GTX GPU to fit. I like the Thunder3 because there is zero space wasted internally and this mini ITX case also wastes no space. 

As for power supply. If you require more power and price is no object the Corsair SF450 is practically platinum rated, virtually silent, light, and tiny (2.5 x 4.9 x 3.9 in). 

 

 

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@enjoy, @edwardsean, I understand your point about mini itx, but there are several things to consider:

Price and size limitations. If I am doing a computer, I am not using a socket 1151, but 2011-v3. With big amount of memory, not just 32gb (2x16gb because of the limitation of modules size, 32gb per module with ecc memory, which you could up to 64gb), because I mini itx just 2 slots, in the only mini-itx x99 motherboard out there. And the cost of this tiny beast is really big. Specially if you have to have a laptop computer too. I do prefer to have just one computer, rather than two...I have my workstation at work. I just need an extra graphics bump in my laptop at home, and it is fair enough for me.

Mods, and limits for this tiny cases. All of them require to modify the case, at least from the PSU POV, if it were prepared for it, it wouldn't have so many problems, but I don't like to mod with extra cables. And not having the ability to use certain graphics cards with heavy mods (1080...). If Akitio could do a tiny case, like the Akito Node lite, with a nice PSU brick (300W approx, and no mods, to use with graphics cards, more people, like me, would go in that way...).

Just my POV too 😉

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eight bit hero
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Posted by: edwardsean

 

Everyone has their own considerations that make a GPU build right for them. I personally agree with Enjoy. Purely from a size perspective, if I were using the space of a Node or Razer Core, I would consider a mini ITX build. From what I've seen, the NFC S4mini is the smallest one available and it is gorgeous. It is less than a third the size of the Node (4.3L vs. 14L). The next batch will require no modification of a mini GTX GPU to fit. I like the Thunder3 because there is zero space wasted internally and this mini ITX case also wastes no space. 

As for power supply. If you require more power and price is no object the Corsair SF450 is practically platinum rated, virtually silent, light, and tiny (2.5 x 4.9 x 3.9 in). 

 

 

   

thats funny you even posted that i got in touch with the creator of the S4 mini and wanted to see when the next preorder is. i love my egpu setup but you can't beat that case is amazing.

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