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May 23, 2017 12:28 pm  

@Piqudo - you must buy this:  https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-Express-Power-Adapter-PCIEX68ADAP/dp/B001TK3TJY/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1495542336&sr=8-7&keywords=6+pin+to+8+pin  

Turn off the Dell Da-2 and just connect your 6 pin male (now in your GPU) in the 6 pin female and then put the 8 pin male to your new 1070 GPU, and turn ON all 🙂 It's so easy...


If you want to close the AKiTIO cover you will need this:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sleeved-PCI-E-8-PIN-90-deg-left-pwr-extender-low-profile-NO-CLIP-4-Made-In-USA/262988500124?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D40130%26meid%3Dbbd3515ee3034b94b0b48176992dff56%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D252791508789

ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
 MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Later 2013) 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i7-4750HQ / 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 / 256GB SSD + 1TB
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May 27, 2017 6:36 pm  

 

IMG 3459

Recent case mods....

 

IMG 3446
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IMG 3447

 

Internal Display results...

IMG 3456
IMG 3453

External Display results...

IMG 3462

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May 27, 2017 11:51 pm  

Amazing 1070mini in mini-eGPU, how are the temps and Dell DA2 power, also do you replace the Thunder 3 fan? Again great work and pictures!

ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
 MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Later 2013) 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i7-4750HQ / 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 / 256GB SSD + 1TB
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May 29, 2017 5:02 am  

Hi. I'm very new in the eGPU field. Thank you very much for the really detailed introduction! I learned a lot. One question. In your external PSU supply, the shopping list for the 220w one shows a 6 pin (F) PCIe to dual 8pin (6+2) (M) cable. but in your picture it shows a second 6 pin (F) PCIe to dual 6pin (M) cable. Which one should I use, or it doesn't matter? Also, why can't I just connect that 6 pin (M) from the first cable to the 1060 directly, instead of using a second adaptor? It's still 6 pin anyway... Thanks a lot!

MBP 15 (Late 2013)+eGFX Breakaway Box+TB3 to TB2 adaptor+GTX 1070+DELL P2415Q


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May 29, 2017 9:07 am  

@Edward.Che it doesn't matter, but with 6 pin (F) PCIe to dual 8pin (6+2) (M) you can upgrade latter to GALAX/KFA2 GeForce® GTX 1070 OC Mini 8GB for example which have 8 pin 🙂

ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
 MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Later 2013) 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i7-4750HQ / 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 / 256GB SSD + 1TB
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May 29, 2017 8:32 pm  

Thanks for your reply! I'm not quite sure, so I want to hear some advice from experienced guys like you. I have a MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Later 2013) with capability of Thunderbolt 2 I think. I used to think about buying the same eGPU setup as yours (AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC). But when I recently searched for PCIe boxes, I found out that new Akitio Node (thunderbolt 3) for only $269, slightly higher than that AKiTiO Thunder2 box. With the built-in power supply and more extended space inside, do you think it is a better choice for now? Of course I need a TB3 to TB2 adaptor.

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May 29, 2017 10:17 pm  

I will answer you with picture, AKiTiO Node is huge, I personally don't like big boxes etc. If you start mini-eGPU project you will release that the mods of the cables and the case are the most interesting part of the setup. You can buy AKiTiO Thunder3 and TB3 to TB2 cable from Apple...

The choice is yours 🙂

ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
 MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Later 2013) 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i7-4750HQ / 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 / 256GB SSD + 1TB
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May 29, 2017 10:39 pm  

OK. I see! Thanks a lot for your kind help!

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May 30, 2017 7:21 am  
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Amazing 1070mini in mini-eGPU, how are the temps and Dell DA2 power, also do you replace the Thunder 3 fan? Again great work and pictures!

Hello,

 

The card fits perfectly fine with the stock fan.  🙂

The front Akitio plate will need to be modified to allow the air to escape freely. Even with the holes, the air gets jammed causing higher than desired temps. The solution I came up with works for me, but I may end up modifying the front plate eventually. Right now, I can put the front plate back on when finished or traveling in seconds.

(Difference with front plate on and off is about 5-7C)

Temps have been in mid 70c's. This is with a rather low setting of 40% fan curve. If I don't use a custom fan curve, and let the card ramp up on its own, it tops out between 78 & 80c. It has a rather slow stock curve and the card is really silent.

 

When gaming, using vsync keeps the temps nice and cool at high 60c's to low 70c's

 

DA2 has been working fine with the card and I have not noticed any crashing or odd behavior.

 

New photos and results have been added to the previous post.

https://egpu.io/forums/thunderbolt-enclosures/akitio-thunder2-and-thunder3-gpu-size-to-close-the-akitio/paged/7/#post-11662

 

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May 30, 2017 9:10 am  
Great news from Computex... Amazing form factor

http://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/103411-gigabyte-shows-aorus-gtx-1070-thunderbolt-xconnect-box/

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May 30, 2017 12:47 pm  

This is Gigabyte Aorus GTX 1070 GAMING BOX 

SIZE: W96×D210mm×H162mm (the size of AKiTiO Thunder2, Thunder3 are W76mm×D233mm×H149mm )

PSU: Internal 450W

GPU:  GeForce® GTX 1070 Mini ITX OC 8G

Price: ?

We must wait for the price, but it is great plug and play Thunderbolt 3 mini-eGPU!

ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
 MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Later 2013) 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i7-4750HQ / 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 / 256GB SSD + 1TB
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May 30, 2017 12:51 pm  
Posted by: enjoy

This is Gigabyte Aorus GTX 1070 GAMING BOX 

SIZE: W96×D210mm×H162mm (the size of AKiTiO Thunder2, Thunder3 are W76mm×D233mm×H149mm )

PSU: Internal 450W

GPU:  GeForce® GTX 1070 Mini ITX OC 8G

Price: ?

We must wait for the price, but it is great plug and play Thunderbolt 3 mini-eGPU!

According to my infos the psu is 250 watt gold

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May 30, 2017 12:52 pm  
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According to my infos the psu is 250 watt gold

Furthermore, the weak 250W power supply from the previous iteration has been replaced with a more powerful 450W PSU, which is plenty of juice for even the most top-end graphics cards (assuming they can fit inside the tiny dock). The new dock also features two USB 3.0 ports and RGB LED lighting.

The problem will be the price - GeForce® GTX 1070 Mini ITX OC 8G is about 400$ with that custom PSU the dock will be at least 400-500$ so the price will be around ~900-1000$ IMO, for example Thunder 3 for 220$ + 40$ for cables and Dell DA2 and 400$ for Galax 1070 Mini = ~650-700$ for the same performance!

ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
 MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Later 2013) 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i7-4750HQ / 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 / 256GB SSD + 1TB
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May 30, 2017 1:43 pm  
Posted by: enjoy
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According to my infos the psu is 250 watt gold

Furthermore, the weak 250W power supply from the previous iteration has been replaced with a more powerful 450W PSU, which is plenty of juice for even the most top-end graphics cards (assuming they can fit inside the tiny dock). The new dock also features two USB 3.0 ports and RGB LED lighting.

The problem will be the price - GeForce® GTX 1070 Mini ITX OC 8G is about 400$ with that custom PSU the dock will be at least 400-500$ so the price will be around ~900-1000$ IMO, for example Thunder 3 for 220$ + 40$ for cables and Dell DA2 and 400$ for Galax 1070 Mini = ~650-700$ for the same performance!

And you are in US,  and in Europe we would pay it 1200 euros

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May 30, 2017 2:40 pm  

Iam also in Europe (Bulgaria), my mini-eGPU setup cost me:

1. Akitio Thunderbolt2 PCIe Expansion Box 290 EUR

2. 2 x Startech.com 6 inch PCI Express Power Splitter Cable 20 EUR

3. EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 Super Clocked (1607 /1835)  GAMING 6GB  275 EUR

4. Dell 220W DA-2 35 EUR

5. DC Barrel 5.5mm x 2.5mm 1 EUR

6. HDMI to VGA adapter from Bulgaria 12 EUR - to play on the retina internal screen (for my old Macbook Pro 2012 with dGPU)

TOTAL: 633 EUR

This Gigabyte Aorus GTX 1070 GAMING BOX  will be at least 1000-1200EUR for sure here.... AKiTiO Thunder2, Thunder3 and Node Lite are still in the game especially in Europe 🙂

ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
 MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Later 2013) 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i7-4750HQ / 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 / 256GB SSD + 1TB
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June 2, 2017 12:21 am  

Hi, for those of you considering if an eGPU is worth it for high end 4K gaming, I wanted to post some information. 1080p gaming really takes a hit with eGPUs, and as Enjoy has shown, as you go up in GPU you suffer greater loss. However, at 4K, I've seen a steady improvement from 1060 to 1070 to 1080 to 1080Ti. I thought that, given the limited bandwidth of thunderbolt3 PCIe, I would've hit a ceiling at some point but I haven't.

Techgage ran some Heaven desktop benchmarks, and my own results with an eGPU track with theirs. There is a big jump from 1060 to 1070 and if you can swing the upgrade it's worth it. 1070 to 1080 yields a more modest gain, and is really more for bragging rights. Then there is another significant jump from 1080 to 1080 Ti, which secures some truly impressive performance.  Overclocked, I hit 48.4 fps at 4K, which exceeds Techrage's desktop number, though they of course were not overclocked. I'm sure thunderbolt is creating a bottleneck, but at least on my 2016 Mac I've been able to mostly keep up with desktops.

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When I started out I thought that because of the limits of eGPUs it would only work at lower resolutions. I figured that the higher the processing demands the more it would lose out against desktops. I actually found the opposite to be true, and  I've proven, at least to myself, that eGPUs are a viable pathway for highend gaming. So, though it may be odd, I even added water-cooling to my 1080 Ti. Along with Enjoy, I'm still attracted to as compact a size as possible. For the 1080Ti the AIB partners went the opposite direction of the Zotac 1080 mini and created the biggest baddest monsters they could. The EVGA AIO CLC allowed me to keep a sleek form factor while bringing down full load temps to 51-52C. 

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June 6, 2017 1:40 pm  
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@Piqudo - you must buy this:  https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-Express-Power-Adapter-PCIEX68ADAP/dp/B001TK3TJY/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1495542336&sr=8-7&keywords=6+pin+to+8+pin  

Turn off the Dell Da-2 and just connect your 6 pin male (now in your GPU) in the 6 pin female and then put the 8 pin male to your new 1070 GPU, and turn ON all 🙂 It's so easy...


If you want to close the AKiTIO cover you will need this:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sleeved-PCI-E-8-PIN-90-deg-left-pwr-extender-low-profile-NO-CLIP-4-Made-In-USA/262988500124?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D40130%26meid%3Dbbd3515ee3034b94b0b48176992dff56%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D252791508789

Hey there!

 

Wow that IS easy! Thanks a lot!!

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June 8, 2017 6:28 am  

Hi enjoy! I got the Akitio thunder 2 box, gigabyte 1070, DELL DA-2 220W power. I tried to follow everything from the procedure. but after i ran automate-eGPU.sh, it showed Thunderbolt device is connected, but no external GPUs detected. is there anything wrong with my set-up? i checked online, a few people have the same problem. some said it is because the graphics card is not properly powered. I uploaded a picture of my setup. the fan on the graphics card is actually spinning. that cable is purchased from KK (ebay). I found out that it is slightly different from your picture. he use a 12 pin adaptor to connect that 8 pin from Dell power. but i remember you use some paperclips? Now I have no idea what to do...

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June 8, 2017 9:27 am  

Sorry for the newb question, but my search so far hasn't found the answer although it is hinted at in this thread. I am soon to receive a 2017 HP Spectre 13, i7500. If fitted with a 1060 or 1070, will there be a performance drop using Akitio's Thunder2 enclosure instead of Thunder3, or does T2 have sufficient bandwidth for this case? Some people appear to be successfully using T2, but I cannot see clear and definitive advice of any performance hit between T2 and T3 for such an eGPU. When at home, I'll use an external 1920x1200 monitor so does that make an improvement to framerate, as display data presumably does not have to go back to the laptop? I apologise if the answers are already available but I have missed them.

The Spectre will replace my old desktop. As it's currently not possible to simply buy an eGPU card (without case and power) to go in my old case&PSU in place of the old mobo   (hence a ready made large enclosure:-)), I've been planning to wait for the Mantiz or perhaps now the new HP Omen enclosure, but perhaps taking the card from a 2nd-hand Thunder2 will be a far cheaper option for me.  I have no requirement for the eGPU to be portable.

Thanks in advance for any advice!

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June 10, 2017 5:31 am  

Will RX560 fit in Akitio Thunder 2?

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June 27, 2017 1:09 pm  

I came across this RX 480 variant while browsing Craigslist. It's an HP OEM card which came in an HP 560-p015hvr desktop. Fry's recently had a sale on these desktops and people bought them to resell the GPU. It's a 4GB RX 480 but what interests me is the single fan cooler. This would fit nicely inside the AKiTiO Thunder2/3 enclosure.

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June 27, 2017 3:26 pm  

@ ikir: nicely done. chapeau!

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June 27, 2017 3:29 pm  
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@deplomb mod, looks amazing on AKiTiO Thunder3 silver, just great. 

@enjoy: agreed! it looks cool in silver.
I was thinking about a Thunder 3 mod as well, but decided to wait what the market comes up with,
there seems to be a lot of movement - I guess they all did some reading here:)

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June 27, 2017 7:41 pm  

I'm looking at getting Atakio Node Thunderbolt 3 with an EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC GAMING ACX 3.0. Is it a good idea? The only suggestion I have read until now with a setup like this is to change the stock fan of the enclosure as it is way too loud. I will be using it with a refurbished 15.4" MBP 2.7GHz i7. With this CPU and GPU there shouldn't be much bottleneck with each other more than the loss of performance for using it via TB3?

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July 6, 2017 3:20 pm  

lucas, tb3 is the defacto best way to transfer data, so not much bottlenecking there i guess 🙂

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July 7, 2017 2:38 am  

The gigabyte aorus 1070 box will be 599 USD with the card included releasing on the 14th. Gonna get one asap and report back on how it is.

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July 31, 2017 1:30 pm  

I am building my first eGPU (I bought the GTX 1060Ti 6GB Mini and the AKiTiO Thunder2 PCIe Box) and am now looking for a power supply for powering this setup.

I saw in the Implementation Guide the 1060Ti 6GB Mini needs max power of around 125W, so it should work, but the AKiTiO tech specs say the max power supply is 120W, and maybe not everything from the power supply goes to the graphics card, so I'm not sure.

Link for the power supply:  https://www.amazon.de/Netzteil-Laufwerke-Lichtschl%C3%A4uche-LED-Strips-geeignet/dp/B00YXXAG7C?th=1

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July 31, 2017 1:56 pm  

gstomi, there is no GTX1060Ti. It is either a GTX1050Ti or a GTX1060. I assume you mean the GTX1060 here.

The GTX1060 requires additional power input, so you cannot just stick the Leckie into your Thunder2's power input and power it up. You need to provide it with an extra power connector, which will require modding.

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July 31, 2017 1:59 pm  

Sorry, I got confused, yeah I mean the GTX1060. Thanks for the reply, though 🙂

 

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July 31, 2017 5:27 pm  

I wasn't trying to just be pedantic (sorry if that is what it came across as): If it was a GTX1050Ti, then you could run it off the Leckie adapter without any other mods. But the 1060 needs the extra power connector, which you need to provide somehow. The Dell DA-2 mods come to mind for your use case, as the Dell DA-2 is cheap as chips on ebay.

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August 11, 2017 10:17 am  

My 5 cents ... I've put together a build when researching for an article on eGPUs for Monitor Magazine, Slovenia (in Slovene).

Configuration:

I've routed the cables (bought them pre-made on eBay) through the ventilation hole of the graphics card (not the prettiest, but definitely the simplest solution). The case fan I later replaced with a Noctua NF-A6x25 FLX (it's a tight fit, but it fits without modification), as the original Akitio fan was usually the loudest part of the setup.

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August 17, 2017 10:39 am  

@Eightarmedpet:

Take a look in this ebay shop where you can find some 90° inverted 6pin pcie adapters. I ordered one adapter for my DIY mITX case and I can highly recommend it.

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August 17, 2017 11:55 am  

@Eightarmedpet you must cut another small part of the 6 pin end:

See my thread, part How to Close The Akitio :  https://egpu.io/forums/builds/2012-15-mbpr-gt650m-gtx106010gbps-tb1-akitio-thunder2-win10-enjoy/

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August 17, 2017 2:43 pm  

Thanks for the replies guys!

@enjoy I dont think I can trim mine anymore, if you look carefully you can see the copper/metal bits sticking out the top and the wires won't bend any lower than them, so this is as low as I can go (if that makes sense).

 

@Eisbrecher99 Thanks for the link! I emailed the person behind that eBay page and they are making one for me! Its a super low profile one they don't make anymore because they say its very fragile but I am willing to take the risk. If all else fails I can put my 1060 into my PC and buy a 1050ti for a little bit of a boost over the 1050 I started with. Would love a mini ITX RX 570 but chances are slim.

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touchbar + [email protected] (AKiTiO Thunder3) + Win10
2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar + [email protected] (Sonnet Breakaway Box) + Win10

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar + GTX1070 (debating 2070 upgrade) @32Gbps-TB3 (Razer Core V1) + Win10

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar + Vega 56 @32Gbps-TB3 (Razer Core V1) + Win10 & macOS 10.14+

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LG 5K Ultrafine flickering issue fix


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papoboy
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August 26, 2017 1:57 pm  

Here's my mod of the Akitio Thunder3. I have a Zotac GTX1060 in it.

Pending: Add my system information and expected eGPU configuration to my signature to give context to my posts


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