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wimpzilla
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Clearly cpu/mb/ram bottleneck here, lower gpu t°, low gpu usage, high cpu usage, both frametime from 15/135ms but with different min/high fps.

So you can also conclude, unfortunately even the MPB 15 quad seems bottleneck the RX480 for unknown reason this time. The cpu is enough to deliver good computing performance, bandwidth, i.e with the GTX980. So the problem is elsewhere with the RX480, i think.

I can only assume on the MBP 16 TB3, the a dual i7/mb/ram is not powerful enough to manage the game and the TBE/eGPU enclose.

Now someone should test with a TB3 MBP with a true quad like the MPB 15 with the same enclosure. If you got the same result on both card/game it mean there is effectively maybe a performance problem on AMD side on this game at least. Also it mean that the bandwidth/cpu performances are enough to deliver a decent gaming experience with a GTX980/1060 on a MPB 15 quad TBE2 and TB3 enclosure.

Or you disable 2 cores, disable HT on your MBP 15, if you can.

I don't think the cable is the issue, i mean i hope. The cable length is quite short, the impedance should be ok. You can try to wrap it into aluminum foil, but hope it is not the issue. ^^

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Poblopuablo
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I don't have a MBP. But I just got my akitio node today. I have a strix 980 and a evga 970 ssc I can test with. 

My computer: 

Dell precision M3510 

Cpu: i7-6700HQ 

Ram: 32gb 18xx(forgot exact #)mhz

Ssd: 2x 256 nvme pcie ssd

Hdd: 512gb

TB3: yes.

 

However I don't have new games, and I don't have $ to buy games in the near future. 

I have a licence for titanfall 2 that I have not used yet, but that's about it.

Would you(the community) like me to get benchmarks or would this be more of a hindrance at this point?

 

 

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Lace
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I have a MBP late 2016 13" i7 with an Akitio Node and a Gigabyte GTX 970 inside.

 

I like to do some CPU/GPU/Thunderbolt performance testing with MacOS , can you recommend tools for that?

I did some performance testing with games and I experienced frequent rendering "hangs", kind of stuttering in X-Plane 11, Bioshock Infinite and also in Benchmarks like Unigine Heaven. I am curious what the reason might be. I am also curious if the PCH-connected TB3 develops performance issues when the unquestionable High-End PCIe SSD is putting load on the chipset.

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goalque
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Just a small clarification, my 2016 13" MBP dual core is i5 (i5-6360U).

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Mid 2015 15-inch MacBook Pro eGPU Master Thread

 
2018 13" MacBook Pro [8th,4C,U] + Radeon VII @ 32Gbps-TB3 (ASUS XG Station Pro) + Win10 1809 [build link]  


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wimpzilla
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Well for help @goalque, since he is the one that is performing the bench in the right way, i can GIFT a couple of steam copy of HITMAN, to check on the same game with a MBP/High end laptop with a true quad and a TB3 coupled with an AKITIO NODE.

PM me if you have steam and wonder help to test the TB3/AKIO/QUAD CPU, if you have basic knowledge of gaming bench.

Again report graphs like  @goalque did, possibly with msi afterburner, min/max/average fps, frametime, gpu/cpu usage, t° etc.

This is exacly what we are trying to asses, @goalque already clearly show that TB2 + quad + GTX980 perform really well, the RX480 not so well, under HITMAN. Now we want asses the performances on TB3 + quad + GTX980/970 if possible. To finally answer this question and move on if problem, on a solution.

About the pci-e SSD M2.M, latest cpu/chipset have enough pci-e lanes to manage everything, but it is true that having a eGPU and a M2.M SSD put under pressure the chipset, if the TBE use chipset lanes. On a desktop it is not a problem because the pci-e lanes cames straight from the cpu.

@goalque: all U cpu are not intended for gaming, U for intel = low power, it mean the cpu have a lower TDP but same specs that the non U counterpart. All U cpu are rather used for battery lifetime than performance wise. Again they perform well because latest intel cpu have a far nice IPC, high clock 3.1ghz, low TDP allowing the cpu to boost without be downclocked!

=>We are far far from the performances of a i5-6300HQ unfortunately, Here. Intel is sometimes greedy since no competition on this consumer market segment!!!! !!! !! !

@lace: you can try ATTO Benchmark to bench your SSD, repeat the test a couple of times without eGPU, then with the eGPU connected. Check the relative read/write average speed and compare. ATTO Techpower. Lunch the tool as it is, default setting are ok.

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Mgear1981
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I got myselves a macbook pro 2015 2.7 i7 quad and i got the akitio node and 980ti. More then happy to test wimpzilla

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ddqp
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updated:akitio node just update their FM to solve this issue, please double check it.

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https://www.akitio.com/firmware/node-firmware

Late Macbook Pro 2016 13' touch bar + AKITIO node + GTX 1050TI 4G Windows


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wimpzilla
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@mgear: Send me by pm you steamid or log in on steam and add me. I would gift you HITMAN if you wonder do a couple of test with you Ti, since you have the +/- same raw power than a basic 1070.

I would need someone with a TB3 QUAND and a node to do the same.

Send me a pm.

Edit: Plz do some decent test before update the Node firmware, since if there is a gain and it bring fresh performance, we can clearly point out and compare both, before/after.

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Mymantiz_John
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Posted by: wimpzilla

 

@mgear: Send me by pm you steamid or log in on steam and add me. I would gift you HITMAN if you wonder do a couple of test with you Ti, since you have the +/- same raw power than a basic 1070.

I would need someone with a TB3 QUAND and a node to do the same.

Send me a pm.

Edit: Plz do some decent test before update the Node firmware, since if there is a gain and it bring fresh performance, we can clearly point out and compare both, before/after.

   

Mantiz had the new FW too, expecting to see the complex bench that you guys did. we are also testing in parallel. 

Mantiz: ● ●


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benip2140
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I found a solution for macbook users (maybe just for macbook 13" tb 2016) to update the firmware of akitio node

please follow this link

https://egpu.io/forums/thunderbolt-enclosures/akitio-node-thunderbolt-3-egpu-enclosure/paged/6/#post-6718

 

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