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Here is the new Akitio node FM CUDA-Z result: it's fixed, and thanks Akitio

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Late Macbook Pro 2016 13' touch bar + AKITIO node + GTX 1050TI 4G Windows


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Posted by: ddqp

 

Here is the new Akitio node FM CUDA-Z result: it's fixed, and thanks Akitio  

The big question is, has gaming FPS improved when do a before/after H2D firmware fix comparison?
Bandwidth dependent games are listed here and here. The H2D issue was the most visible indicator for investigation of the reported TB3 underperformance.

eGPU Setup 1.35    •    eGPU Port Bandwidth Reference Table

 
2015 15" Dell Precision 7510 (Q M1000M) [6th,4C,H] + GTX 1080 Ti @32Gbps-M.2 (ADT-Link R43SG) + Win10 1803 // compares M.2 vs TB3 performance inc unoptimized H-CPU BIOS [build link]  


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Posted by: nando4

 The big question is, has gaming FPS improved when do a before/after H2D firmware fix comparison?
Bandwidth dependent games are listed here and here. The H2D issue was the most visible indicator for investigation of the reported TB3 underperformance.

Here you are, no difference with HEAVEN, other games I can make test in this weekend.

Late Macbook Pro 2016 13' touch bar + AKITIO node + GTX 1050TI 4G Windows


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Yep, there is no evidence yet that H2D TB3 bandwidth on the device side has an influence on gaming FPS or GPGPU performance.

I will retest.

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Posted by: goalque

 

Yep, there is no evidence yet that H2D TB3 bandwidth on the device side has an influence on gaming FPS or GPGPU performance.

I will retest.

   

Goalque, while gaming FPS may not be resolved here, at the very least, would you be willing to re-do the matlab tests? They were the most comprehensive study into the H2D issue.

If they are improved we can close this H2D thread as an area of study for TB3 underperformance.

A positive outcome being  CUDA apps benefitting from improved bandwidth.

eGPU Setup 1.35    •    eGPU Port Bandwidth Reference Table

 
2015 15" Dell Precision 7510 (Q M1000M) [6th,4C,H] + GTX 1080 Ti @32Gbps-M.2 (ADT-Link R43SG) + Win10 1803 // compares M.2 vs TB3 performance inc unoptimized H-CPU BIOS [build link]  


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I noticed a performance improvement with my setup. I have a HP Zbook Studio G3, connected to an Akitio Node + Nvidia GTX 1070 Founder Edition. I run five World of Warcraft client at the same time. Before the update, the background clients would drop to 1-0.5 FPS. Now, after the update I can get a steady 30FPS on each background client and maintain 60FPS on the foreground client, similar to how it performs in a desktop with the same specifications.

2016 15" HP ZBook 15 G3 Studio [6th,4C,H] + GTX 1070 @ 32Gbps-TB3 (AKiTiO Node) + Win10 [build link]  

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Posted by: win32asmguy

 

I noticed a performance improvement with my setup. I have a HP Zbook Studio G3, connected to an Akitio Node + Nvidia GTX 1070 Founder Edition. I run five World of Warcraft client at the same time. Before the update, the background clients would drop to 1-0.5 FPS. Now, after the update I can get a steady 30FPS on each background client and maintain 60FPS on the foreground client, similar to how it performs in a desktop with the same specifications.

Thank you for dropping by and advising the performance improvement. We do not as yet have a HP ZBook G3 eGPU implementation: https://egpu.io/external-gpu-implementations-table/?table_filter=%22zbook%22#search

Would you like to submit one along with your now full speed CUDA-Z  H2D goodness and some photos? The ZBooks are very nice systems with deserved eGPU representation.

eGPU Setup 1.35    •    eGPU Port Bandwidth Reference Table

 
2015 15" Dell Precision 7510 (Q M1000M) [6th,4C,H] + GTX 1080 Ti @32Gbps-M.2 (ADT-Link R43SG) + Win10 1803 // compares M.2 vs TB3 performance inc unoptimized H-CPU BIOS [build link]  


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@nando4: I will do that later. The first thing to do is to find another game (preferably available from Steam) as I want to find out the reason for underperforming RX 480 under Hitman. Maybe "virtual super resolution", "GPU scaling" or "scaling mode" in Radeon settings have some effect.

A quick test indicated that GTX 1060 couldn't reach the performance level of reference GTX 980 so this might be also GPU architecture related issue.

By coincidence, AMD released Crimson ReLive Edition 17.4.1 two days ago, and Nvidia released 381.65 today Smile

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Mid 2015 15-inch MacBook Pro eGPU Master Thread

 
2018 13" MacBook Pro [8th,4C,U] + Radeon VII @ 32Gbps-TB3 (ASUS XG Station Pro) + Win10 1809 [build link]  


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the new firmware for akitio node has been given free. I updated and flashed it. Will post results soon. Perhabs for everyone who owns the node to update the firmware and test it out!

To do: Create my signature with system and expected eGPU configuration information to give context to my posts. I have no builds.

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Posted by: wimpzilla

 

@mgear: Send me by pm you steamid or log in on steam and add me. I would gift you HITMAN if you wonder do a couple of test with you Ti, since you have the +/- same raw power than a basic 1070.

I would need someone with a TB3 QUAND and a node to do the same.

Send me a pm.

Edit: Plz do some decent test before update the Node firmware, since if there is a gain and it bring fresh performance, we can clearly point out and compare both, before/after.

   

I have sent you a message

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