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Boltoway
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@uletos

That could be the problem. I remember this Reddit post detailed the same swap you did, and how his RTX 3060 Ti wouldn't activate on a cold-start. You might be having a similar issue.

You will need a Flex ATX PSU, as a regular PSU will not fit inside the gaming box. You could use something like an Athena Power AP-MFATX50P8 or a Chinese Domestic market product like this or this

 

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That post helped with their step-by-step. With my non-Framework laptop, I disconnected everything and:

  1. Started up the laptop and logged in
  2. Wait about 5 minutes
  3. Connect the power cord to the eGPU
  4. Connect the Thunderbold cable to the laptop's Thunderbolt port

Then everything turned on as expected. When I connect it all immediately after the laptop loaded to the home screen, the GPU would show a flash and then turn off. It seemed that letting the PC run whatever background processes for a few minutes, and then connecting, that worked.

When I tried to do the same on the Framework, no dice. I see the GPU power up the light, but it goes away. I tried all of the modular ports just to be sure. There are a few posts where people have their Framework run with their eGPU. I feel like I'm close, but missing something, perhaps a BIOS setting...

Also, according to one of the Reddit comments, the PSU should be enough to support the GPU. They said:

If you run it at the same time as your PC, maybe you are running out of power for a moment?

The 1080 (170w) and 2070 (180w) are from the same series, so the 3060 (180w) could work.

The Gaming Box is a Flex power supply, so there isn't much variety...

It seems that the 3060 needs a minimum of 180W? That's how I understood it.

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Framework • AORUS eGPU • ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Dual Mini


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@boltoway

I was able to figure it out. I was using the eGPU to also charge the laptop at the same time. Once I used the AC power simultaneously, I was able to get the eGPU to run in one go. Here’s the step-by-step if anyone else is in this situation:

  1. Disconnect everything from the laptop and eGPU
  2. Boot up the laptop and log in
  3. Connect the laptop’s dedicated AC power adapter
  4. Connect the power cord to the eGPU
  5. Connect the Thunderbolt cable to the laptop’s Thunderbolt port

From there, the eGPU should run and you can safely connect any additional addons that you want to connect to the eGPU. Thanks for helping me troubleshoot this and find the root cause.

If I want to upgrade to one of those Flex ATX PSUs, how complicated is that? It looks like I’ll need to perform some customization to the GPU case and rewire some things for it to work?

Framework • AORUS eGPU • ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Dual Mini


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@uletos

Excellent work! I am glad the issue is sorted. I am guessing the power draw of the laptop and the GPU was a bit much for the little PSU. 

I have never personally changed the Flex-ATX PSU in a gaming box, but you should be able to get away with it without having to do too much modification. I would suggest looking around the forum, Reddit and the internet in general for people who have done the same and see if you can identify any possible issues and what the best PSU solution will be. 

 

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Gigabyte Radeon RX 560 Gaming OC 4G (rev. 2.0) works! It fits without modification but pushes on the PCB ATX Power Connector. Cutting a small portion of the plastic fan shroud off the corner mitigates this issue. Working with Windows 10 and latest AMD graphics drivers without issue, running only on PCIe Bus Power. 

I also tested an OEM Nvidia GTX 750 Ti which worked without issue.

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Posted by: @uletos

@boltoway

I was able to figure it out. I was using the eGPU to also charge the laptop at the same time. Once I used the AC power simultaneously, I was able to get the eGPU to run in one go. Here’s the step-by-step if anyone else is in this situation:

  1. Disconnect everything from the laptop and eGPU
  2. Boot up the laptop and log in
  3. Connect the laptop’s dedicated AC power adapter
  4. Connect the power cord to the eGPU
  5. Connect the Thunderbolt cable to the laptop’s Thunderbolt port

From there, the eGPU should run and you can safely connect any additional addons that you want to connect to the eGPU. Thanks for helping me troubleshoot this and find the root cause.

If I want to upgrade to one of those Flex ATX PSUs, how complicated is that? It looks like I’ll need to perform some customization to the GPU case and rewire some things for it to work?

Wow - I had exactly the same experience with a Dell XPS 9350! The Thunderbolt software didn't show any connections at all but it provided power to the laptop. After using the dedicated power brick, it connected and installed without issue. In fact, I can disconnect the power brick afterwards and it works and powers the laptop without issue (as long as you don't turn it off).

Unfortunately, I can't get it to work with the intended machine - my iMac 4k late 2015 with TB2. The included 1070 has worked great for many years in Windows using Bootcamp with very few issues. Trying to use the 3060 Ti? No dice. The one thing it does do is light up the RGB and spin the fans (sometimes). I haven't been able to successfully install the drivers, though. A couple of times Device Manager did recognize the card properly, but with error code 12. That went away, but now we are dealing with error code 13 - and the card isn't even shown under Display Adapters! Trying to boot/re-boot with the device always results in a freeze and reboot once the Windows logo and spinning dots (2 to be exact) appear. I have tried DDU in normal and safe mode, disconnecting the internet, disabling auto installation in Device Manager, HackFlags registry edit, nothing seems to help.

I had the thought of upgrading the power supply, but as fun as a side project this is, there has to be a limit! I can't dump another $150 into this combination. 

iMac 4k 2015 - 21.5" (iGPU only)
i5-5675R @ 3.10 GHz
8 GB RAM
Aorus Gaming Box 1070 via TB3 > TB2 adapter
...also 1 successful session with 3060 Ti, honest!: /> Windows 10.0.17134


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I'm still having this issue despite the steps I wrote out, @bootz. After looking around on Reddit, I found someone with the same GPU as me for the AORUS and this post:

https://egpu.io/forums/postid/58175/

The fix looks simple enough, but it looks like I need an extra wire to connect the PCIE pin 1 to the 12V power supply in pin 10 or 11. I don't have one laying around and I'm trying to find the name of this wire so it fits. Does anyone know?

 

Framework • AORUS eGPU • ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Dual Mini


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bootz
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@uletos

 

I received the 600W Enhance Flex PSU yesterday and swapped out the 450W unit that comes installed with the Aorus Gaming Box 1070. My findings:

1. The card that comes with the Gaming Box (Gigabyte Mini ITX 1070) does not work with the 600W unit. Like you stated, it most likely has to do with the difference in power connectors? I noticed that the motherboard connector is not combined (has a +4 connector) like it is on the 400W that comes with the unit.

2. The 600W PSU with the Asus Dual Mini 3060 Ti was finally able to power/charge the Dell XPS 13 9350 laptop on its own, while driving the GPU for hours in 3D Mark. This was not the case with the 450W unit (required power brick to be connected prior to hot plugging the eGPU).

3. Unfortunately, the 600W PSU had no effect on fixing the problems I had using the 3060 Ti with the 450W PSU on my iMac 4k iGPU late 2015. I receive the same error code 12 / error code 31 message, regardless if I use the 450W or 600W PSU.

So,

Dell XPS 13 9350 + ASUS Dual Mini 3060 Ti + 600W Enhance Flex PSU = Works with single TB3 cable

Dell XPS 13 9350 + ASUS Dual Mini 3060 Ti + 450W Enhance Flex PSU = Only works if AC power brick is connected prior to connecting eGPU

iMac 4K iGPU Late 2015 + ASUS Dual Mini 3060 Ti = Does not work (Bootcamp) regardless of power supply Sad Sad Sad  

iMac 4K iGPU Late 2015 + Gigabyte Mini ITX 1070 = Works (Bootcamp) with 450W PSU. Not compatible with 600W Enhance Flex PSU. 

 

iMac 4k 2015 - 21.5" (iGPU only)
i5-5675R @ 3.10 GHz
8 GB RAM
Aorus Gaming Box 1070 via TB3 > TB2 adapter
...also 1 successful session with 3060 Ti, honest!: /> Windows 10.0.17134


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uletos
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Interesting, @bootz. Thanks for diving into this and testing it out. Do you have photos by the way? I'm curious how it looks with the new PSU.

Also, do you know happen to know the gauge size for the wire that was used in the post I shared by any chance? I found these wires on Amazon, but there is a range in the gauge size. So I want to make sure I get the right one.

 

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bootz
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@uletos

It looks almost identical to the 400W unit, with the exception of the extra wires and extra weight. I don't have access to it right now, but Velkase has pretty detailed specs on the unit. I haven't closed the case with the new PSU installed, but it will be a tight fit with the extra wires. This project is going to drive me to build a SFF lol.

 

 

iMac 4k 2015 - 21.5" (iGPU only)
i5-5675R @ 3.10 GHz
8 GB RAM
Aorus Gaming Box 1070 via TB3 > TB2 adapter
...also 1 successful session with 3060 Ti, honest!: /> Windows 10.0.17134


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