BlackBeast Pro eGPU - KickStarter Project Exposed
@frankle Thank you for the report. I get that breakthrough ideas and products are closely guarded for their big reveal. What has happened with this BBP project is the complete opposite. They fished for ideas from our community because they had no clue about Thunderbolt 3 eGFX. They promised features that are not officially certified/granted by Intel and Apple. They showed a plastic box with no functional ports and provided no technical specification of components used. They spammed many sub Reddits to get coverage and build their mailing list. They offered a referral program to further draw uninformed users into the Kickstarter campaign.
Let me share another fact I've learnt in the past four years working with Intel and Thunderbolt 3 partners. It's not a high profit category because of costly R&D and low sales volume. In fact Intel has provided financial assistance on a number of eGFXs such as the PowerColor/VisionTek mini eGFX. Ask yourself why Intel hasn't done the same if this BBP project is such a breakthrough solution. Personally I inquired TUL about doing a crowd-funding eGFX specifically for eGPU.io community before. After learning about all the technical hurdles and costs, I quickly disregarded that idea.
I'd love an eGPU.io egpu, god knows what beast the community would come up with (I would imagine dual PCIe slots for the vocal minority).
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As a new member of this forum I believe someone should take a moment to commend your maturity, respect, professionalism and approach regarding this travesty of a scam. You never stepped out of line and only said what was necessary using your actions as a finale when it was crucial. Bravo.
Coming from a family of lawyers and being involved with legal work myself, I can tell you that it would not be unwise to take legal action early rather than late. I believe, and it is my opinion, that it is your duty as the developer and creator to protect the open source component of your fantastic contribution to the community.
"I am not only a pacifist but a militant pacifist. I am willing to fight for peace. Nothing will end war unless the people themselves refuse to go to war."
- Albert Einstein
And to both of you and other mods, contributors and members on this fantastic forum, I understand life gets in the way, but I think all of us here can agree that we are all having shower thoughts of when we will see in the pole position of the eGPU.io recommended enclosure threads the "it's-a-beast-pro, (no it's itsage and the gang), eGPU.io enclosure v1.0". You have my pledge unconditionally for everything you have all offered to us out of the goodness of your hearts and that is something I will always support.
Thank you for your thoughts, advice, and kind words.
The reason I haven’t taken any legal action is that the process probably entails non-trivial fees (DMCA takedown is free but easily disputed). I’m in a transitionary stage of my life - switching cities (both not in home country so no straightforward family support), from college to (first) job, etc. Financially, this exact time is just not a good time. I could have done something if I was already working/earning - I start next week.
We would like to thank all our backers who believe in our product!
As of today, 27 January 2020, we have reached approximately 350 backers for our BlackBeast Pro on Kickstarter - which we consider a satisfying result. The feedback from our presence at CES also gave further proof that BlackBeast Pro is a product that creates enthusiasm and "want-to-have". It is evident that a large majority of backers really want this product to succeed, and the progress towards the first production version is satisfactory. We are fully aware of the challenge of moving from concept and prototyping to full scale production. This is a difficult part, and much easier said than done, but we have been moving "full steam ahead", doing our utmost to ensure that this process is effective and successful.
Assessment of the present situation.
With the benefit of hindsight, we must conclude that we should have been closer to the final production version of BlackBeast Pro before making the design and features of our product public. Even though we have much admiration for the "open financing tool", so aptly provided by Kickstarter, we must admit that we should have chosen other, more traditional financing sources, thereby avoiding the discussion about disclosure of technical specifications, intellectual property/patents issues etc. It is a fact that BlackBeast Pro is designed by a small company with inadequate financial resources to legally register patents for our product, or to protect such patents in court, if infringed upon. This is not so special, as most small companies faces this dilemma, but it is a matter of fact one has to live with.
Another area where we would have benefited from a different approach, is to secure rights to disseminate detailed information about our cooperation with a leading Thunderbolt solutions provider, both in refining/supplementing software, as well as in securing timely certification. It would have been better to have a more formal "joint venture".
Based on the above, we have - regretfully - decided to cancel our Kickstarter project, and rather use more traditional funding methods even if this will extend the program and delay the launch of the production models of BlackBeast Pro.
What we will do: Continue the development of the BlackBeast Pro as normal and relaunch at a later time with a final product to present.
This has been a tough choice for us, but a positive side effect is that we have acquired a high number of loyal backers and partners, facilitating a re-launch with a "running start". And we are still very optimistic about launching BlackBeast Pro in the future.
Once again, Thank you for support, positive comments and backing!
NOTE: The timing of this cancellation ensures that NONE of our backers will be charged.
Yet another update from the project without any actual update.
Naturally - since they don’t have any real updates :p
It’s amazing to see how so many people have invested so much money without attempting to throughly understand the technology and the process(es) involved (such as certification, etc.). One positive is that it’s always great to see people support new/upcoming startups (I love the spirit) but I would at least do some serious research beforehand.
Even if by some miracle they pull this off (btw this thing is supposed to retail at 400 USD per a CES interview), at least I won’t be recommending them because we clearly know how they‘ve gotten so far:
But the highest amazement was expressed when a fairly anemic 2013 MacBook Pro became a superfast graphic performer when hooked up to the BlackBeast Pro.
It’s running because of script (now called special software). It’s fast because of the GPU (people have done this for more than half a decade).
They definitely are skilled at... faking it (or being convincing), because it seems to be working and backers are increasing. Either way, will be amazing to see if this isn’t a scam.
Hi. This is my first post here (long time lurker). I am well within the discussion and I am baker Tiago Borba actively discussing in the BBP Kickstarter comments.
The reason I am making this post is about the fact I am still a backer. I am, for better or worse, still part of the hype there (through my funding) but also part of the argumentation as I feel I want to scrutinise the project to the full extent possible, and that is most effective in the comment section of the project in Kickstarter, which is only allowed while you're a backer.
I want to say I intend to pull back my funding up to the very end (dodgy, I know) which is possible according to Kickstarter's terms here. This is the only reason I am still there, and I think this is common practice by backers who want to give the project the benefit of the doubt in the allotted time they open themselves for backing.
Thanks a ton to everyone in this discussion. It's been proving a real source of arguments as to why this is a bad investment and misplaced hope.
Edit: Kickstarter was just canceled closely after my link to the digi.no article.
I'm happy for all backers as they will not lose any funds.
I'm sad they still blame lacking patents funding, rights, software, certification etc.
They received every tip, guidance, notice and warning they needed regarding these areas by quite many of the egpu.io members - yet they totally ignored or didn't even care about them.
Now they payed the price.
Wonder what innovasjonnorge.no will say about the 700000 NOK they have received.
I believe the cancellation was in response to the steep decline in backers in the last day so they could end on the note of having ‘350’ backers. Glad that backers won’t lose funds.
My only hope is that LP and any other startups looking to enter this industry do their homework extensively - for hardware, and for any software (if involved). Understanding an industry/sector/technology is a prerequisite to disrupting it.