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ttamnogard
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@lagarhus

I'll keep on eye out. While those other locations (Reddit etc) are more popular... they all link here to this forum. @mac_editor and @itsage are due a lot of credit.

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ikir
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If in the end this eGPU will be able to connect LG Ultrafine display 5K I will instant buy one. I've tried many display but LG Ultrafine are super with 5K and P3.


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@ikir There is zero indication that will happen. Maybe one day when we get USB4 eGPUs.

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Posted by: @ikir

If in the end this eGPU will be able to connect LG Ultrafine display 5K I will instant buy one. I've tried many display but LG Ultrafine are super with 5K and P3.

Same from me, no idea if it's possible with an eGPU with replaceable GPUs.

 

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ikir
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If I can connect a LG Ultrafine, than I go for a soldered solution. Blackmagic is super silent, I would just love to have a Radeon RX 500XT instead for Vega 56 for that price!


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my awesome Radeon VII eGPU
my Mantiz Venus extreme mod with Sapphire Nitro+ RX Vega 64

 
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Hi friends of eGPU.io

Sorry for the late update, but today we have some great information to share. First, we have redesigned our dock according to the feedback we have received from the community. With the new design, we also updated the entire website to include technical specifications, better pictures and information. In the following weeks, we will do benchmark videos and objective reviews from the press to ensure a state of the art product and credibility.

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We have also teamed up with a Thunderbolt company to ensure a fast and great Intel certification. The process is ongoing and will be completed before entering manufacturing and shipping. BlackBeast Pro will be manufactured in Horten, Norway, which is the «technology city» in Norway. The PSU and fans will be bought from foreign countries due to the high labor cost in Norway.

We will launch a Kickstarter campaign to raise the remaining funds and deliver to early customers, before scaling to mass market. Here will be offering an early bird for the community. The pricing will be announced ahead of Kickstarter. The remaining development and certifications before production is estimated to be 6-8 weeks. We will start the shipping BlackBeast Pro in June 2020.

Final, we are ready for CES 2020. Our booth is 51770 (Eureka Park), so if anyone would like to see and test our product, we would love to see you there.

Best regards

Tobias Lagarhus

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@lagarhus

Good to hear that you will be at CES. @itsage will be there to check it out it seems (according to his post in this thread). However, I have questions about a statement on your website:

In addition Thunderbolt and Thunderbolt 2 computers are also supported due to the dual controller. The Mac Pro from 2013 will get a significant performance boost with BlackBeast Pro.

First, you do know that the 2013 Mac Pro does not support external GPUs officially right? Here’s Apple’s official document: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208544

Second, the statement says TB1 and TB2 systems are supported due to dual controllers. How? Any Thunderbolt 3 device (except bus-powered) would work with TB1 or TB2 with the right adapters.

Third, in your ports section: https://www.blackbeastpro.com/ports it doesn’t tell us much about what all ports are actually present. They are easy to see on your shared image however. Perhaps adding a list of ports would be great. 

In the same section, the image used shows a MacBook Pro (presumably) connecting to the eGFX box with 2 thunderbolt cables on 1 side. This implies that the maximum bandwidth for the eGPU and other PCIe connection is 16Gbps each if I’m not mistaken (I believe @nando4 had an explanation which I missed/couldn’t find but remember - pls feel free to correct). They should be connected on different sides for max. bandwidth. Nevertheless, that's a minor thing.

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"Charing 100W", "Charing host device"
I recommend a spelling checker.
USB3 should be USB 3.0.
USB 4 should be USB4.

"comparing to existing eGPU’s", "getting an excellent stability"
and a grammar checker.

"dual controller" <- marketing speak means two controllers not connected at all to each other - might as well glue two Thunderbolt docks together but I guess this will look nicer and maybe be more compact.

"also prioritizes the bandwidth" how does it do that, beyond the built in firmware of the Thunderbolt controllers? Do you have custom firmware?

"8K resolution" - that just depends on the GPU and has nothing to do with the eGPU enclosure. Unless you are saying this eGPU enclosure uses a Titan Ridge Thunderbolt 3 controller and has a second Thunderbolt 3 port for daisy chaining or downstream DisplayPort 1.4 connector? No eGPU has used Titan Ridge before except the BlackMagic eGPU.

"transfers files up to 40Gbps" Files cannot be transferred faster than 22Gbps with Thunderbolt 3. The rest of the bandwidth can only be used by DisplayPort. Do a benchmark to measure this. Actually, you have the 2800 MB/s number on the tech specs page.

"2x DisplayPort 1.4" - this suggests Titan Ridge controllers. Are they DisplayPort inputs (like BlackMagic eGPU internally to allow connecting Thunderbolt display to GPU of eGPU) or output (downstream connectors that display image from GPU of computer)? You have a chart that says "External Monitor" which suggests output only - disappointing because Thunderbolt displays like the new Apple Pro Display XDR cannot be connected to the GPU. But if you have two DisplayPort outputs, then that should say "External Monitors".

"3x Thunderbolt 3" - this suggests two Thunderbolt 3 controllers. First Thunderbolt controller has Thunderbolt upstream (to computer) and downstream (for daisy chaining), with USB devices connected to Thunderbolt controller via USB hub + USB connector of Thunderbolt controller if using the peripheral variant of Titan Ridge, or with a USB PCIe controller connected to PCIe downstream connector of Thunderbolt controller. This Thunderbolt controller also has a DisplayPort 1.4 downstream connector (if the DisplayPort 1.4 connectors are output only).

The second Thunderbolt controller has only upstream - with downstream PCIe for GPU - maybe other downstream is used for the second DisplayPort 1.4 (if the DisplayPort 1.4 connectors are output only)? I don't think any other eGPU has had a DisplayPort output like that.

Maybe a diagram of the product would be more informative - it should show all the connectors and the controllers / hubs / devices. Does it use a USB hub or a USB PCIe controller? If PCIe controller, is it a crappy ASM1142 or a newer ASM2142 or 3142 and how many PCIe lanes?

I am thinking a USB hub is used instead of a USB PCIe controller, because you have x4 for M.2 and x4 for GPU leaving no lanes for USB PCIe controller unless you add an expensive PCIe switch. A USB 3.1 Gen 2 Hub is better than an ASM1142.

There's a USB audio device, card reader, and 4 USB 3.1 Gen 2 Type A ports. I suppose a USB 3.1 Gen 2 hub could be connected to one of the Thunderbolt controllers, and the other devices could be connected to the other Thunderbolt controller? I am unaware of USB 3.1 Gen 2 hubs that have more than 4 ports. There could be two hubs - one connected to a Thunderbolt controller and another connected to the first hub.

What kind of device is the 10GB Ethernet? Does there exist a USB 3.1 Gen 2 to 10 GB Ethernet adapter chip?

 

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Lagarhus
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@mac_editor

The ports are located under "Tech Specs", but we will add a button in the "Ports" site.

I know that the Mac Pro 2013 does not official supports eGPU due to poor experience. They have also said, they would love to implement eGPU in older Macs, especially in the Mac Pro. BlackBeast Pro will let you use two cables and with TB3 to TB2 adapter, you can utilize two Thunderbolt buses in the Mac Pro. The result will be a much better experience. This is an ongoing process with Apple and Intel, but we have a very strong case.

The reason why we have two TB3 cables on the same side of the MacBook Pro is for aesthetics. 

 

@Joevt

Thanks for your feedback. We will fix the grammars. 

BlackBeast Pro will be equipped with two Titan Ridge controllers. One for the GPU only, and one for the ports, hard drive and daisy chain. A computer with multiple TB buses like the MacBook Pro 15 and Mac mini can full advantage of the dual controllers by using two cables partitioned over two TB buses and utilize x8 PCIe lanes.

You can use monitors with both the Thunderbolt 3 port for daisy chain and the dual DisplayPort 1.4. It let you connect a display to the GPU of eGPU through daisy chain and DisplayPort.  The prioritizing is the same as in the Thunderbolt firmware.

 

Edit: Here is one more exclusive image of the real deal.

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I’m sorry. But I’m getting some of the old Kickstarter vibes. 
Features and specs marketing promises which appears to lacks the needed hardware knowledge and photos of the real deal with any cables. 
Unless the real deal is an empty case. 

anyway - when the product is featured on:

https://thunderbolttechnology.net

I’ll believe it. 

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