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Valkeriefire
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This is a cross post from reddit that I wrote.  https://www.reddit.com/r/eGPU/comments/asuduc/gigabyte_aorus_rtx_2070_gaming_box_first/

I just started testing the new RTX 2070 Aorus Gaming box eGPU. I'm testing it with 2 lane TB3 Dell XPS 9560 today (i7-7700hq, 16GB RAM, GTX 1050 internal). Tomorrow I have a 9570 arriving with a i7-8750H, 32GB RAM, and 1050Ti dGPU.

I'll be updating this post throughout the day and tomorrow to keep all info located in one post.

RTX 2070 Gaming Box eGPU with 4-lane TB3 Dell XPS 9570 i7-8750H benchmarks

Off the bat, the RTX 2070 Gaming box has impressive temps, 54C max. The fans do make some noise at idle which is probably due to the tiny cooling fans (but we knew about the problems from the 1070/1080 models). The Gaming box is charging my 9560 at 100w via Thunderbolt. I don't have the external AC adapter plugged it at all and I can sustain unthrottled speeds on the 7700hq of 3400-3600mhz on all 4 cores.

Here are my findings from today with the 9560/7700hq/2 lane TB3:

Dell XPS 15 9560 RTX 2070 eGPU Stock
Aida GPGPU
1410 write https://1drv.ms/u/s!AlTCFnQtzWFJmqEgSmVtRs6H-U7Iiw

Dell XPS 15 9560 RTX 2070 eGPU Stock Firestrike https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/33782407

Dell XPS 15 9560 RTX 2070 eGPU Stock Firestrike Extreme https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/33783724

As we can see, the RTX 2070 over doubles the performance of the 1050 dGPU, but we are at roughly Desktop GTX 1060 levels. This is probably due to the GPU bottleneck and the 2-lane TB3 interface of the 9560. Hopefully tomorrow we can remove those obstacles. I'm going to move onto higher resolution testing next. Unfortunately I didn't do Extreme and Ultra firestrike benchmarks on my desktops, so I won't have those for reference.

As it stands, the RTX 2070 should be 8% faster than a 1080, but due to the 2-lane TB3 bandwidth, we are only getting 66% of GTX 1080 level performance (i.e. 34+% perfomance lost due to TB3 connection).

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Dell XPS 9560, 7700hq, 2 Lane TB3: XPS 9570 8750H, 4 Lane TB3 enroute & Aorus 2070 eGPU enroute


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Nikunj (Nik)
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Thanks  a lot for this . I have a yoga 720 with the same specs as yours so I think I would be in the same boat. However if you see this post even the i7 8750 H with a 1080 was getting scores almost the same as yours. 

https://egpu.io/forums/builds/dell-xps-9570-15-aorus-gaming-box-1080-win10/

I am really waiting for your 9570 tests as well . 

Few Questions :-
1. I understand that you were part of the group buy. Did it turn out to be cheaper than the current Amazon listed price of $649 + tax ? I am still trying to find a site to buy this from which would not charge tax for FL.

2. Are you facing any problems which were reported by the previous Aorus Gaming Box owners like Buzzing etc ?

3. Do these boxes come with a 3 year Warranty as well ?

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ishikawa_goemon
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@Nikunj, allow me to pop in and address a few of your questions. 

1. You will save money with the group buy as there is no sales tax and I had pretty fast FEDEX shipping (like 2 days from West Coast to East Coast). Amazon does charge sales tax which bumps the price up. Have you tried contacting Brian at Gigabyte for the pre-sale? Worst he tells you is that it is over...but he's very responsive and a short message to his email is worth your time.

2. I'm still on day 2 of ownership so no comments yet on immediate issues. However regarding buzzing, if you plan on using the short 0.5 m passive TB3 cable, you will hear the PSU fan going. I think this is the loudest, "buzziest" component. The workarounds for this are either playing with headphones + using a longer active TB3 cable to put some distance between the fan noise and your ears. Or, other users with some electronics DIY know-how have used quieter fans. Seems like you will need to know how to splice wires to JST PH 2 headers for this to work though.

3. I think AORUS-branded products carry the same standard warranty. The only option is that if you pay an additional $30, there is a cross-ship option. This means that if you have to RMA your card, Gigabyte will ship out a replacement card as you ship yours in. This lets you have a card to play on while your is being serviced or repaired.

I have an XPS 9570 so if there is a particular test you want me to run and I have the software, I would be happy to help out.

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Nikunj (Nik)
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Posted by: ishikawa_goemon

@Nikunj, allow me to pop in and address a few of your questions. 

1. You will save money with the group buy as there is no sales tax and I had pretty fast FEDEX shipping (like 2 days from West Coast to East Coast). Amazon does charge sales tax which bumps the price up. Have you tried contacting Brian at Gigabyte for the pre-sale? Worst he tells you is that it is over...but he's very responsive and a short message to his email is worth your time.

2. I'm still on day 2 of ownership so no comments yet on immediate issues. However regarding buzzing, if you plan on using the short 0.5 m passive TB3 cable, you will hear the PSU fan going. I think this is the loudest, "buzziest" component. The workarounds for this are either playing with headphones + using a longer active TB3 cable to put some distance between the fan noise and your ears. Or, other users with some electronics DIY know-how have used quieter fans. Seems like you will need to know how to splice wires to JST PH 2 headers for this to work though.

3. I think AORUS-branded products carry the same standard warranty. The only option is that if you pay an additional $30, there is a cross-ship option. This means that if you have to RMA your card, Gigabyte will ship out a replacement card as you ship yours in. This lets you have a card to play on while your is being serviced or repaired.

I have an XPS 9570 so if there is a particular test you want me to run and I have the software, I would be happy to help out.

Thank you so much for your reply. Yes I will shoot out an email to Brian and see if he is able to ship me an unit. Can you run the same tests as valkerifire and post your scores as well please (with and without an external monitor if you can)? I was thinking of buying a Dell G3 and if the i7 8750H will give  a 30% boost it is with spending $600 on another laptop. It will still turn out to be cheaper than buying a 1070Max Q laptop .

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Valkeriefire
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I messaged Brian last week and he said the group buy was over. I asked him to contact me if they do another one.  I paid $52 tax through Amazon, unfortunately.  My 9570 arrives today so I will post more results, they will probably be up tonight.  As ishikawa said, there is slight whine sound from the fans.  I game with headphones, but is disappointing, a superior design would you a single 120mm fan to cool the PSU rather than 3 super small ones.  That is my only complaint so far.

Dell XPS 9560, 7700hq, 2 Lane TB3: XPS 9570 8750H, 4 Lane TB3 enroute & Aorus 2070 eGPU enroute


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Valkeriefire
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I've added a Timespy i7-7700hq, RTX 2070 eGPU benchmark.

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/33808879?

Dell XPS 9560, 7700hq, 2 Lane TB3: XPS 9570 8750H, 4 Lane TB3 enroute & Aorus 2070 eGPU enroute


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Nikunj (Nik)
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Posted by: Valkeriefire

I messaged Brian last week and he said the group buy was over. I asked him to contact me if they do another one.  I paid $52 tax through Amazon, unfortunately.  My 9570 arrives today so I will post more results, they will probably be up tonight.  As ishikawa said, there is slight whine sound from the fans.  I game with headphones, but is disappointing, a superior design would you a single 120mm fan to cool the PSU rather than 3 super small ones.  That is my only complaint so far.

Thank you I will wait for your scores and yes Brian did respond that the Group Buy is now over.

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sunny
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I also posted on reddit and will post here too, I am using mac mini 2018 with i5 and got the following for timespy with the rtx 2070 using full lanes...

7732 / 4793
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/6319845

Mac Mini 2018 / Aorus Gaming Box RTX 2070


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Nikunj (Nik)
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Posted by: Valkeriefire

I've added a Timespy i7-7700hq, RTX 2070 eGPU benchmark.

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/33808879?

Did you use an external monitor for all your benchmarks ?

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chodthewacko
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I got it working on a Dell precision 7510.

Some notes:
1)  Didn't need to, but the Dell site had a thunderbolt firmware update that increased NVM from 16.00 to 26.01.   Both firmwares say that external GPUS are not supported, and both are wrong.
2)  Out of the box, my Host to device speed was half of what it should be (about 1050 MiB/s as per CUDA-Z).
      I installed the 'host to device' firmware update on aorus's site ( https://www.aorus.com/GV-N2070IXEB-8GC#pd_download ) and that brought it up to the expected ~2020 MiB/sec

3)  I installed version 418.81 version of nvidia drivers off nvidia's site, rather than the slightly older ones on aorus's site  (416.34).
      nvidia control panel is acting wierd for me - not working with the 2070. and I still don't have 3dvision working.   Anyone have any luck?
      I feel this is occuring because part of the driver install happens after windows restart, and during the restart the egpu isn't connected yet.

4)  had a crash when I plugged in the aorus when windows was up and thunderbolt was 'always accept'.   now I do 'accept once' each time and it works fine, although possibly that's causing #3.   now that I type this, I should try again now that I've updated the tb3 firmware.

5)  it basically all worked out of the box.  I'm pretty happy with it.  

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