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ICULikeMac
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How are you starting the eGPU? As in where are you plugging it in? I found a difference whether I plug in at OS selection or hot plug during windows boot. 

2019 13" MacBook Pro (i7 & 16GB RAM) - MacOS + Win10
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usafballer
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I hotplug immediately at the swirling dots during boot

UPDATE: I am now using REFIND boot with the set_efi script provided in another thread.  I do a full shutdown, plug in the Aorus (which triggers a boot), select the script, then select windows. I still get 11XX MiBs.  I know this isn't a cable issue since under the H2D firmware I was getting 22XX MiBs - I just have never seen any middle ground numbers.

However, performance, even passing back to my internal screen is more than acceptable for most titles I play.  I can run 1200P or even higher and maintain 60FPS in most of the Triple A games I've tested.

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Hi All,

 

I'm thinking is it worthwhile to update my firmware on my Venus as I don't want to lose control of the usb and ethernet on my eGPU. 

 

Has anyone able to regain control of usb and ethernet after firmware flash?

2016 Mbp 15" dGPU 460
Mantiz Venus eGPU Nitro Sapphire RX580 LE
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nando4
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@usafballer, the three results you can get with your Aorus Gaming Box and MBP are:

 

Enclosure Firmware Boot method CUDA-Z H2D
F1.0 Any

11xxMiB/s

F1.0H2D Using apple_set_os.efi

15xxMiB/s

F1.0H2D Hotplug at swirling dots

22xxMiB/s

 

Booting via apple_set_os.efi lowers H2D as described here. Where did the extra bandwidth go?  It seems that boot might do a 10Gbps static USB-C controller bandwidth allocation for the hosted enclosure I/O ports [(32-10)/32*22xx=15xx].

So F1.0H2D and booting via apple_set_os.efi may be the best way to give your desired balance between I/O port stability and eGPU performance. Please test and confirm.

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usafballer
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Posted by: nando4

@usafballer, the three results you can get with your Aorus Gaming Box and MBP are:

 

Enclosure Firmware Boot method CUDA-Z H2D
F1.0 Any

11xxMiB/s

F1.0H2D Using apple_set_os.efi

15xxMiB/s

F1.0H2D Hotplug at swirling dots

22xxMiB/s

 

Booting via apple_set_os.efi lowers H2D as described here. It seems that boot method does  a 10Gbps static USB-C controller bandwidth allocation for the hosted enclosure I/O ports [(32-10)/32*22xx=15xx]  so may be the best one to give your desired balance between I/O port stability and eGPU performance.

SO are you saying I should pick the H2D firmware, and go with apple_set_os.efi to get the best balance between using the Aorus Box's USB ports and better GPU performance?  Or are yous aying I should stick with the non-H2D firwmare (F1.0) and be stuck with 11xx MiB/s

EDIT: I think now that I've read your comment a couple times, I'm tracking what you are saying.  You are indicating that using the H2D and EFI boot is likely the best.  I'll try it out later today and see how attached devices perform.  Since all my games run off a 4TB drive attached to the Aorus box, I need the USB to work well.  On the H2D firmware with Hotplug, I was noticing some crashes that weren't happening before - likely because data streaming off the disk was becoming problematic.

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usafballer
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A few notes I've observed - when using the firmware updater tool - I only see the 1070 if I use the hotplug method vice the apple_set_os.EFI file.  Using the latter - I only see the root device.  This might be worth adding to your OP!  I couldn't get the yellow banged device to show up if I hot unplug and then replug (well, I got the yellow banged device to show up, but the firmware tool was finicky about showing the , in any situation).  Hotplug resulted in a smoother firmware update process, at least on my MacBook Pro 13" (late 2016 w/touchbar).

After reflashing the H2D firmware, CUDA shows me at 14XX MiB/s.  I am seeing an improvement in game and benchmark performance.  For example Heaven bench showed me going from 102 FPS to 120 FPS with the same settings.  I also tried Deus Ex Mankind Divided, and instead of upper 30s, low 40s, I am getting low 50s in the benchmark tool.  I think I can tweak the settings to obtain a 60FPS setup - hopefully.  NOTE: This is all using the internal display only.

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When I hot unplug and hot plug, the LED indicators on my gaming box remains turned off and it doesn't get detected again. What do I do?

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fischegpu
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@itsage, I have an Aorus Gaming Box 1070 with mid-2017 MacBook Pro successfully running bootcamp with apple_set_os.efi. However, I cannot seem to get the "yellow bang" effect. I hot-unplug, wait for 15 seconds, then hot-plug. The power delivery starts working but the lights on the egpu do not turn on and the firmware update tool no longer identifies a Thunderbolt 3 device (whereas it does before the unplugging, just doesn't show the egpu in the selection screen, as expected). Furthermore, I cannot seem to find a generic Thunderbolt 3 device in Windows device manager. Is there a more detailed process to that/am I missing any step? Which category in device manager should the yellow banged enclosure show up? Thanks

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Thiago Bolinho Laranjeira
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I have the aorus gaming box 1080, although I got it working under MacOS I could not manage to make it happen under windows.

Is there any way to update the firmware over MacOS instead of windows? or even at a PC machine instead of bootcamp?

is worth to update it if my Mac is thunderbolt 2 and running trough an adapter??

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itsage
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@fischegpu I would recommend removing the GPU from the enclosure to performance the firmware update if you cannot produce the yellow-bang by hot-unplug. Make sure you’re running the correct Intel Thunderbolt Software version as mentioned in the how-to.

@thiago_bolinho_laranjeira The firmware update can only be via a Thunderbolt 3 computer. If you have a Thunderbolt PC, you can definitely run the update on it. We have a user map with members who are willing to land a hand if needed.

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dream3
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Actually @itsage, can I at least check the firmware version my Aorus 1080 has with a TB2 mac?

MacOS: 15" Retina Macbook Pro 2015 Iris Pro only
Windows 10: Tornado F5 laptop with discrete GTX 1060
eGPU: GIGABYTE RX 580


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eduardqwertyu
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ok usafballer, how the hell did you get this far?  I have a gtx 1080 ti in an akitio node pro box and man I am about to throw this 13" MBP 2017 of mine out the window!!!

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eduardqwertyu
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I am stuck at hurdle 1.......  how do I even see this?  My TB3 software does not pick up any hardware to work on...  Please help!

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simplekitten
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Hi @itsage and All,

I have a Aorus 1080 gaming box and a macbook pro late 2013 15" retina with a dgpu of GeForce 750m, running on 10.13.4.
My hardware: Aorus 1080 gaming box --> TB3 to TB2 adapter -->  TB2 to TB2 cable --> My MacBook Pro
i did the one script all solution by @fr34k. Working awesome on mac except open GL /CL not working. I've tried boot camping into windows 10 but have no luck with the gaming box and i stumble upon this thread. 

I've installed the:

  1. VGA Driver for Windows 10 64bit [384.76]
  2. Thunderbolt™ bus driver for the Intel® NUC Kits NUC8i7HNK and NUC8i7HVK.

Regardless when i plug-in the egpu in during these state: before windows boot, window spinning dots, on desktop screen. The egpu does boot-up but not detectable by windows or the thunderbolt software.

Will it fix my issues if i get a friend with native TB3 to flash the F1.0_H2D into my egpu? And will my windows 10 be able to detect and use the egpu?

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Posted by: simplekitten

Hi @itsage and All,

I have a Aorus 1080 gaming box and a macbook pro late 2013 15" retina with a dgpu of GeForce 750m, running on 10.13.4.
My hardware: Aorus 1080 gaming box --> TB3 to TB2 adapter -->  TB2 to TB2 cable --> My MacBook Pro
i did the one script all solution by @fr34k. Working awesome on mac except open GL /CL not working. I've tried boot camping into windows 10 but have no luck with the gaming box and i stumble upon this thread. 

I've installed the:

  1. VGA Driver for Windows 10 64bit [384.76]
  2. Thunderbolt™ bus driver for the Intel® NUC Kits NUC8i7HNK and NUC8i7HVK.

Regardless when i plug-in the egpu in during these state: before windows boot, window spinning dots, on desktop screen. The egpu does boot-up but not detectable by windows or the thunderbolt software.

Will it fix my issues if i get a friend with native TB3 to flash the F1.0_H2D into my egpu? And will my windows 10 be able to detect and use the egpu?

hey bro just want to ask if you have similar issue with usb 3.0, Keyboard/Mouse keep disconnecting when using it? I'm using Auros Gaming Box GTX1080 too but with MBP 13" Late 2016

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yusufsu
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Guys I really need help.
I was trying to update my mantis Venus firmware but the firmware updater says "no mantis Venus detected" or smth like that. After that I thought maybe if I disable the whole PCI root port and re enable it can solve my problem. But after the disable the whole root port my windows just crashed, touchpad or keyboard or any PCI device don't work now. What should I do for re-enable it? I don't wanna install the windows again 🙁 many games instead.

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I own a Dell XPS 13 9370 and just got an Aorus 1080 eGPU. My mouse stops responding intermittently, when doing the CUDA-Z bandwidth test.

It's utterly ridiculous that on a 40 Gb/sec full-duplex connection, of which 22 Gb/sec can be H2D pci-e traffic there's apparantely NO ROOM for a low speed USB keyboard and mouse to send back a few bytes per frame about their latest movement. Ridiculous. This points to the problem being a bug somewhere. Why is the mouse dropping out every couple seconds, for half a second, before coming back? Obviously PCI-e traffic doesn't get squirted down the Thunderbolt link for 500ms without the possibility of a single USB (or Displayport) frame being interleaved so SOMETHING is going wrong beyond the facile 'there's not enough bandwidth to handle pcie and USB at the same time' explanation.

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mar_kelp
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Can someone confirm if the instructions in the first post still work? I have the 16.2.55.1 Thunderbolt Software from Intel and I've 'banged' my RX580, but am getting an error that "This application is not supported on Boot Camp". I am using the rEFInd method to boot into Windows 10 (1803). See attached screen shot.

Thunderbolt

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar + RX 580 Gaming Box + macOS 10.14.3 and Windows 10 (BootCamp with rEFInd)


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DeNachtwacht
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I have a working Gaming Box 1080 setup with my Macbook Pro here, but can't update the firmware. The Thunderbolt software says "no active Thunderbolt controller found in the system". In device manager, I can't see it either. There is only one "Base system device" that is not installed correctly here; could that be it?

The strange thing is that the Gaming Box itself works fine... so Thunderbolt somehow is indeed installed.

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joevt
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Posted by: DeNachtwacht

I have a working Gaming Box 1080 setup with my Macbook Pro here, but can't update the firmware. The Thunderbolt software says "no active Thunderbolt controller found in the system". In device manager, I can't see it either. There is only one "Base system device" that is not installed correctly here; could that be it?

The strange thing is that the Gaming Box itself works fine... so Thunderbolt somehow is indeed installed.

Read post #1 again and tell us what step, instruction, or note you did not follow. This one seems relevant:

Posted by: itsage

Hurdle #2 - The second step is to locate the Thunderbolt device before Thunderbolt FW Update Tool can proceed. If you don't see your enclosure at this screen, it's because your eGPU is working great in Bootcamp. Wait, what?!! How is this making any sense?... In order to update the eGPU enclosure firmware, the eGPU functionality must not be running. You have two choices: either remove the GPU from the enclosure physically or hot-unplug then hot-plug to yellow-bang the eGPU. I know this paragraph reads like a bad joke but due to software glitches and unsupported devices, this is how I got it to work. Once you see your enclosure at Select Controller/Device click to select the Thunderbolt device under Port number.

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DarkEchoes
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Been fighting with my Gaming Box 1070 for the last week trying to update it to the H2D firmware. Finally broke down and contacted Gigabyte to see what help they could offer, and after some back and forth they are willing to RMA it and update it themselves. While I'm waiting for my RMA confirmation I've been trying a few things just to see and noticed something interesting.

The error I am currently encountering is this one:

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I noticed that in the step where I select the Gaming Box it only shows up as GIGABYTE, GAMING BOX (see below) instead of the proper model name as shown in itsage's post (as well as Gigabyte's own documentation for the firmware update). This happens both with and without the GPU in the enclosure. Anyone know why this might be and if there's a way to get it to show up properly? Ideally I would like to get this resolved myself instead of having to send it in.

pic1

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marcotini
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This procedure is not needed for Razer Core v2 right?

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Posted by: DarkEchoes

Been fighting with my Gaming Box 1070 for the last week trying to update it to the H2D firmware. Finally broke down and contacted Gigabyte to see what help they could offer, and after some back and forth they are willing to RMA it and update it themselves.

Hey, my Gigabyte Gaming Box (RX580) died. The Thunderbold controller is recognized and the LEDs are on, but the card fan does not work and the video adapter is not appearing. How did you start the RMA procedure? Thanks!

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Same to you on my MBP 2016, and the Intel Thunderbot Software event do not show my attached devices even though I'm running with my 1080 gaming box.

Computer: MacBook Pro (13-inch, 2016, Four Thunderbolt 3 Ports)
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Posted by: mikegleasonjr
Posted by: DarkEchoes

Been fighting with my Gaming Box 1070 for the last week trying to update it to the H2D firmware. Finally broke down and contacted Gigabyte to see what help they could offer, and after some back and forth they are willing to RMA it and update it themselves.

Hey, my Gigabyte Gaming Box (RX580) died. The Thunderbold controller is recognized and the LEDs are on, but the card fan does not work and the video adapter is not appearing. How did you start the RMA procedure? Thanks!

First post here, hi! 

Chiming in to help you out. If you haven't already RMA'd your unit, these Gigabyte 1070 mini rev1 cards have been prone to failure, well known in the mining community. I received an "untested" Aorus 1070 egpu from ebay today, it did not work. Powered up, RGB's lit up, but the card fan never did spin. Computer sees the thunderbolt controller but no GPU at all. 

These cards blow a fuse, the white fuse with a "10" on in on the back-side near the PCIE connector was blown. I bridged it with a dab of solder. 

Works great now.

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mikegleasonjr
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Chiming in to help you out.

Thanks!

Unfortunately, I tested the same fuse with a multimeter and the resistance is 0 across it (which tells me it's not blown) 🙁

I am hesitating to return the card since I bought it in Canada and now I live in Morocco. The shipping will be the price of a new card (200 USD on newegg these days) and I have to provide a return address in Canada. Really a shame.

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@itsage Have you tried to install the latest BIOS and F1.1 PSU fan firmware? The procedure for them is different from this thread (flash H2D firmware) and the updater can fail to detect gaming box and graphic card.

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I was 100% unable to update the firmware of my Aorus gaming box on my 2018 Macbook pro

The 2018 uses Titan Ridge revision of thunderbolt controllers which do NOT support downgrading the driver version to the version Gigabyte asks us to downgrade to for supporting the firmware update utility.

I already discussed this with Gigabyte that Titan Ridge revision computers CANNOT update the firmware and their utility needs to be updated. They were hard to work with. In the end, they said they will forward my complaints to developers. 

I ended up updating my Aorus box using a 2016 MBP that was fully able to downgrade the thunderbolt controller driver to the version Gigabyte requests, firmware update utility works perfectly there. 

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The fan update, stops the PSU fans running for both Windows and MAC but fails to shut the unit off, therefore you can still hear to hum of the PSU, the only way to power it off is to remove the TB3 cable from the host.

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jangoloti
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Dear all

Has somebody realised that the firmware version 17.1.64.250 (we should be at 17.3 by now) added support for Apple* Boot Camp in Secure Connect mode (SL1)?

It is written in the release notes included with the FWupdatetool of my Galax/KFA2 eGPU.
 
Can that help? How do we setup that mode?

JA

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Thank you for sharing the release notes. I’ve noticed the latest versions of Intel Thunderbolt Software work well with Thunderbolt 3 Macs in Boot Camp. Apple set the firmware of these Macs to No Security (SL0). Here’s the one from the 2018 Mac mini.

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Posted by: itsage

Thank you for sharing the release notes. I've noticed the latest versions of Intel Thunderbolt Software work well with Thunderbolt 3 Macs in Boot Camp. Apple set the firmware of these Macs to No Security (SL0). Here's the one from the 2018 Mac mini.

You are welcome, that is my two cents.
They do not with my MBP and KFA2 EGPU, maybe because I have an old firmware version. As you see in my questions to @OliverB I cannot get it to work in Bootcamp for the firmware update. I think I have to get a PC with TB3 tomorrow in the office.
Should that work?

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I was able to successfully update the firmware for the RX 580 Gaming Box on my 2018 Macbook Pro with little to no issue. Ultimately, I just installed the latest version of the Intel Thunderbolt Software (linked in the OP), and then I downloaded an updated version of the Intel Thunderbolt Firmware Update Tool. I then followed Gigabyte's instructions included in the firmware download and everything worked -- no errors, no hotplugging needed, just load, select, go, and restart.

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Ok I'm having issues trying to install the gigabyte software "Error while getting the PD Software version".  It tells me to uninstall the TB driver so I do then the program doesn't even load so I go back an run the intel firmware for TB, get it going, get back into the gigabyte program, same error.

I'm on the 2017 MacBook Pro with the Auros Gaming Box GTX 1070 plugged into the left side and I'm getting pretty frustrated.  What do I need to do. Any driver installs, etc, just lock up the whole computer.

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Ok I'm having issues trying to install the gigabyte software "Error while getting the PD Software version".  It tells me to uninstall the TB driver so I do then the program doesn't even load so I go back an run the intel firmware for TB, get it going, get back into the gigabyte program, same error.

I'm on the 2017 MacBook Pro with the Auros Gaming Box GTX 1070 plugged into the left side and I'm getting pretty frustrated.  What do I need to do. Any driver installs, etc, just lock up the whole computer.

Perhaps try the updated thunderbolt firmware update software I linked to? Perhaps they've ironed out a few issues? I know the 2018 Macbook Pros have a different TB3 chipset than the 2017, but perhaps Intel fixed a bug or two in their software in the meantime?

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Ok I'm having issues trying to install the gigabyte software "Error while getting the PD Software version".  It tells me to uninstall the TB driver so I do then the program doesn't even load so I go back an run the intel firmware for TB, get it going, get back into the gigabyte program, same error.

I'm on the 2017 MacBook Pro with the Auros Gaming Box GTX 1070 plugged into the left side and I'm getting pretty frustrated.  What do I need to do. Any driver installs, etc, just lock up the whole computer.

Perhaps try the updated thunderbolt firmware update software I linked to? Perhaps they've ironed out a few issues? I know the 2018 Macbook Pros have a different TB3 chipset than the 2017, but perhaps Intel fixed a bug or two in their software in the meantime?

I’ll try that tonight I’m about to board a plane and don’t want everyone freaking out like I’m building a device.  I tried whatever was in the original post. What’s odd is device manager does show the gtx 1070 it just says the drivers are from 10/2017 and when I try to start anything it gives some error about external monitors. I’m going to uninstall all drivers and go from there. While I fully appreciate the initial guide it feels like it might not apply to my 2017. Does bing the 15” with Radeon Pro 560 make a difference as well?

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