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Steve Tsokev
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Hi,

I purchased an Aorus Gaming Box 1070 with RTX 2060 Asus card in it second hand. The enclosure works fine, however it was never flashed for the H2D issue or the other firmware updates. My main machine on which I would be using it is Zbook 15 G2 with TB2, so I also purchased the apple TB cable (2m) and Apple TB3-> TB2 adapter. In order to flash it, I used my work machine Dell Precion 5540, which has TB3 and the update of the H2D and 1.3 of the firmware went fine. Upon testing the enclosure with the Dell 5540 with TB3 cable the H2D showed the expected 2200 + result. However the same on the Zbook setup with TB2 cable and TB3->TB2 adapter is always 1250-1350 range. Is that the expected number I should be getting with TB2 or is my TB2 cable possibly at fault? It is an original brand new Apple cable, but 2m. Does length matter? Would the result differ with 1m or 0.5m? I searched for a build with RTX 2060 using TB3->TB2, but there are none. I also searched for Zbook G2 builds with Aida64 and CUDA-Z screenshot/data but there are none. So I cannot answer my own question. If somebody can confirm whether this is expected or I should get a new cable (I read somewhere there are even active cables?), please also provide links for those, so I can purchase them.

Thank you in advance!

HP Zbook 15 G2 UHD, discrete card only Quadro m2200. Aorus Gaming Box 1070 with Asus RTX 2060 card in it.


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@steve_tsokev, 1250-1350 Mbps on a Thunderbolt. My 2013 Mac Pro has the same bandwidth range and it uses a black 2m Thunderbolt 2 cable + Apple Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt adapter. I used the shorter Thunderbolt 2 cable before with similar results.

 

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Steve Tsokev
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Thank you for the confirmation @itsage, much appreciated! Now if someone could advise how to have 2 Nvidia graphic cards active at the same time, one is RTX, the other Quadro. I see @Yukikaze somehow managed to accomplish this, but I have tried on 2 different model laptops and it is either the quadro or the RTX, never both. As soon as I installed the drivers for one, the other one errors out with Code 31:

https://egpu.io/forums/builds/hp-zbook-g15-gtx96020gbps-tb2-akitio-thunder2-windows-8-1-enterprise-64-bit-yukikaze/#post-86311

HP Zbook 15 G2 UHD, discrete card only Quadro m2200. Aorus Gaming Box 1070 with Asus RTX 2060 card in it.


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Yukikaze
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@steve_tsokev - Currently I am on a ZBook G4, but I have a similar situation: I have a GTX1080Ti eGPU and a Quadro M1200 dGPU in my laptop.

 

Try this. Caveat: This only works if a single driver can cover both the eGPU and the dGPU. If it cannot, then there is no way to get two NVIDIA cards working at the same time. You will be however able to run an AMD eGPU alongside just fine, as long as both cards have a driver that operates under the same WDDM version. You seem to have a M2200? Then it should work.

1. Boot without eGPU connected.

2. Run DDU and nuke ALL NVIDIA drivers. Prevent windows from installing drivers by itself.

3. Power off. Connect eGPU, power system back up again.

4. You should have two "Microsoft Basic Display Adapter" devices in your device manager. This both your dGPU and the eGPU.

5. Download the latest DESKTOP NVIDIA driver. Not the Quadro one, but the Geforce one.

6. Install the driver. This driver should now be installed for BOTH your dGPU and your eGPU.

Hope this helps.

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Steve Tsokev
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@Yukikaze thanks for the advice! I tried your steps exactly and unfortunately it didn't work. It only installed the drivers for the RTX eGPU and the dGPU was left as Microsoft Basic Display Adapter. Well at least it is not erroring with Code 31, but this pretty much means I lose the portability of the laptop. Would that have to do with the WDDM compatibility? Any other ideas?

HP Zbook 15 G2 UHD, discrete card only Quadro m2200. Aorus Gaming Box 1070 with Asus RTX 2060 card in it.


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@steve_tsokev - If there isn't a single driver that works for both GPUs, then you are out of luck with the NVIDIA eGPU. I am suprised that a M2200 doesn't play well with the RTX, to be honest, my M1200 is a 1st gen Maxwell (it is essentially a GTX750Ti), and it works with my 1080Ti, with my 1080Ti being on the latest driver NVIDIA advertises (I literally had my system reformatted this Sunday and I downloaded the latest driver). The M2200 is a 2nd generation Maxwell (parallel to the 9XX series, and is essentially a GTX960), so I'd expect this to work.

I fear your only real solution for the eGPU situation is to use an AMD one or to keep the dGPU disabled until you really need it, which is somewhat of a hassle.

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Want to output [email protected] out of an old system on the cheap? Read here.
Give your Node Pro a second Thunderbolt3 controller for reliable peripherals by re-using a TB3 dock (~50$).

"Always listen to experts. They'll tell you what can't be done, and why. Then do it."- Robert A. Heinlein, "Time Enough for Love."

 
2012 14" Lenovo Thinkpad T430s [3rd,2C,M] + RX 550 @ 10Gbps-TB1 (Atto Thunderlink) + Win10 [build link]  


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Steve Tsokev
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@Yukikaze Unfortunately, the dGPU being stuck in Microsoft Basic Display Adapter didn't go well, I couldn't force the apps to use the RTX for some reason with this setup. So I cleaned everything up with DDU and installed Quadro and then GTX drivers again and I am back to my previous situation, at least this way RTX is usable and I can still browse. watch videos etc. with the dGPU although it shows as error. Unfortunately enable/disable for the GPU does not work and neither does restart. Even when I start the laptop disconnected from the eGPU, the m2200 is still with error code and does not function as it should. I am afraid I would have to reinstall Quadro drivers each time I need to use the laptop as portable device i.e. outside of home. The biggest issue for me is the fact Windows 10 removes the "Sleep" option when you do not have proper display drivers, so now I would have to shutdown the laptop everytime I am not using it.

Considering how Nvidia 3xxx series just came out and it blew everything out of the water, what are my chances of going to an AMD video card :d Maybe if they sell for next to nothing ... 🙂

 

P.S. The m2200 is no weakling, I can play triple A titles on low/mid settings combo with it even now, but as I play on a docking station tied to a 27 inch monitor, with 2k resolution, I wanted more. It is sad that Nvidia abandoned the MXM 3 form factor, neither Dell, nor HP ship their 15 inch Workstation lineups with MXM cards. If they were, I would have just kept upgrading the dGPU instead of going for eGPU. The 17 inch workstation laptops are still with MXM cards though, but they are waaaaay too clunky for me.

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Steve Tsokev
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@Yukikaze (and @all) I found the working solution 🙂 Basically I matched the version of the Quadro driver with the version of the GTX driver and voila .. both cards work and whenever I disconnect the eGPU, the apps transition to the dGPU. The driver version in my case is 452.06.

I'm as happy as I can be 🙂

 

P.S. And although it is now correctly recognized and showing as working properly, Vulkan is not recognized as supported technology. Tried using it in games and benchmarks and no dice. So there is still tradeoff. @Yukikaze, I would be interested to know whether it is the same issue in your setups?

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