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nando4
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Posted by: ikir

   

As far I understand they are on separate lane/channel. 32Gbps for GPU and 8Gbps for USB-Sata-ETH

   

Thunderbolt separates it's bandwidth into DATA (up to 22Gbps) and DISPLAY. The onboard USB/SATA/Ether runs off the Thunderbolt3 USB controller which is part of the DATA bandwidth allocation, shared with the eGPU.

If you want full 22Gbps bandwidth for eGPU use as well as USB/Ether/SATA then it requires:

* a separate dock to host USB/Ether/SATA  off it's own USB3/TB3 port
*a TB3 enclosure that has a switched USB controller like the Asus XG Station 2. There you attach a USB-B cable to your system USB 3.0 port to activate the USB switch.

eGPU Setup 1.35    •    eGPU Port Bandwidth Reference Table

 
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OSXlifer
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Is there any reason to think performance would be worse on  SATA expansion slot/USB/Ethernet performance if one was to use it with a TB2 older Mac? I'm pretty excited about this enclosure and would like to use it to extend the performance lifespan of my existing (mid-2014 15" MBP) Mac with the TB3 -> TB2 adapter. I know the GPU Mac OS performance would be slightly bottlenecked by TB2 (around 15%, right?) and I'm wondering if using the other I/O capabilities of this unit would accentuate the bottlenecking problem or not. 

My second question is whether we know anything about availability. I'd prefer not to spend $80 on shipping. 

 My last question is how hot-pluggable is this for OS X? Like if I'm out with my laptop and come home, can I just plug in to this with my TB3->Tb2 adapter cable and expect the SATA, GPU, USB ports and Ethernet to just come on, or does it require a restart for them to start working?

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ckitching
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I've tried to place an order a few times over the last few days, and I'm getting a "Payments can't be processed right now" message.  Does Mantiz not accept preorders anymore?

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Mymantiz_John
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Posted by: ckitching

 

I've tried to place an order a few times over the last few days, and I'm getting a "Payments can't be processed right now" message.  Does Mantiz not accept preorders anymore?

   

It's really getting close to have Intel Cert. Done, and we should close the shopping system to avoid selling/pre-sell/Pre-order for a On-going Cert. Device. It will re-opened once the Cert. is settled. Thanks for your patience.

 

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Mymantiz_John
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Posted by: Rycco

 

Thanks! Do you know about performance drop when using USB/Ethernet?

   

Assume you were asking the GFX performance drop, due to the latestest research, bandwidth sharing to USB/Ethernet there are  "almost " no impact to the FPS. 

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Posted by: OSXlifer

 

Is there any reason to think performance would be worse on  SATA expansion slot/USB/Ethernet performance if one was to use it with a TB2 older Mac? I'm pretty excited about this enclosure and would like to use it to extend the performance lifespan of my existing (mid-2014 15" MBP) Mac with the TB3 -> TB2 adapter. I know the GPU Mac OS performance would be slightly bottlenecked by TB2 (around 15%, right?) and I'm wondering if using the other I/O capabilities of this unit would accentuate the bottlenecking problem or not. 

My second question is whether we know anything about availability. I'd prefer not to spend $80 on shipping. 

 My last question is how hot-pluggable is this for OS X? Like if I'm out with my laptop and come home, can I just plug in to this with my TB3->Tb2 adapter cable and expect the SATA, GPU, USB ports and Ethernet to just come on, or does it require a restart for them to start working?

   

Hot plugging depends by macOS, if Apple will support eGPU officially they will fix this. It is on Apple hands.


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OSXlifer
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Posted by: ikir

Hot plugging depends by macOS, if Apple will support eGPU officially they will fix this. It is on Apple hands.

So that means it doesn't work now? Only if/when Apple lends official support?

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Rycco
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It does work, but maybe you gotta do some hacks explained all around here.

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kotlos
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Posted by: Rycco

 

It does work, but maybe you gotta do some hacks explained all around here.

   

Hot plugging? As far as I am aware, there is no way this can be done right now under mac os. I started a thread a while back about this:

https://egpu.io/forums/mac-setup/hot-plugunplug-enclosure-with-no-gpu-acceleration-possible/

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OSXlifer
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I guess it's not that huge of a deal. Boot times are pretty quick with MBP SSDs. Just some hassle as I use my MBP in clamshell mode whilst at my main workstation.

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