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Und3rtoW
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Ok I understand, Windows on my Macbook is not necessary since I have a desktop PC for tasks in Windows or Linux.

Thanks for the info.

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Stephan Lamoureux
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Is this the same version?

MZ-03 Saturn Pro II EGPU -Thunderbolt 3 MacOS/Windows/Intel Thunderbolt Certified External GPU with SATA3 2.5 SSD/HDD,SD,USB 3.0 Gigabit LAN Dual TB3 chip Manage GFX & Extra IO (Space Grey) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0745H6GTX/

There are reviews 3yrs old so I’m confused and a lot of them are not great.

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itsage
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The older reviews are for the Mantiz Venus.

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Stephan Lamoureux
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Confirmed with the seller too, just ordered one for my xps. $80 cheaper than from Mantiz can’t beat it.

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Uzman
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Thank you for the detailed review. I have a MacBook Pro 13 early and a Samsung 4K monitor. The Macbook Pro' Intel GPU is not enough for 4k resolution. For Instance, Launchpad opens very slowly. I want to buy this eGPU and a graphic card. I don't play the game and video editing. Is there a video card you can recommend for daily use? Thanks.

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itsage
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The RX 580 should give a nice boost for your needs. It's affordable now and drivers are well optimized.

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2020 15" HP Spectre X360 [11th,4C,G] + RTX 2080 Ti @ 32Gbps-TB4 (AORUS Gaming Box) + Win10 2004 [build link]  


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Roy
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I was thinking about getting the Razer Core X but this just offers so many more features! I am very intrigued by the ability to add more storage! In terms of doing that you mentioned that you had to move the bracket for it? Is that something easy to do for a novice like myself? You also mentioned that using this egpu with bootcamp was a pain! That is slightly worrisome since I want to use it with my 2019 MacBook Pro 13 (2.4 GHz i5/8 GB of Ram)...I purchased this Mac as an Eng. student and to be completely honest have not regretted it since I can use Mac OS (with my iPad) and then use Bootcamp for handling tasks such as AutoCad and Civil3D! The Iris Plus 655 & 8GB of ram have been able to handle the software pretty well tbh but I am looking into Egpus to "future proof" myself for the next three years! Is it worth investing into the Mantiz Saturn Pro & either a RX 580 8GB or a Vega 56? I know you mentioned that you are using a 2020 MacBook Pro, but my research so far has suggested that the error 12 problem is only prominent on the 2020 version of the MacBook Pro! Is that true? Have you been able to test this egpu setup with a 2019 model?

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mac_editor
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@itsage, I think review should be updated to make note of an issue with ethernet support on this enclosure on macOS. After some back-and-forth with John, it seems the advertised native support on macOS isn't exactly working as intended. There is indeed a limit of approx. ~500 Mbps download and ~600 Mbps upload on every Mac I tested (3 macs - 2 TB3, 1 TB2) with the native drivers on both Catalina and Big Sur. All the macs provide the full 940 Mbps both ways with the Venus and 3rd party driver. Realtek also offers a custom driver which apparently fixes the issue - but I have yet to test it - because here's the kicker: I installed it as instructed on my Catalina work machine (all security enabled), but the eGPU would still use the native OS driver, not the installed one. I could obviously force changes by eliminating the native driver from the picture but don't want to disable security on the work machine. Here's the second kicker: On macOS Big Sur, network device kexts using equivalent DriverKit APIs are disabled by default and won't work unless SIP is used without kext validation. So possibly the Venus is already out unless ASIX provides a DriverKit edition for the AX88179, and same for Realtek if I want full Gigabit. At least the Saturn would work, though not a maximum speed for me.

Obviously, people with an eGPU and duplex gigabit connection together are likely a minority, but it is beyond frustrating that a product doesn't necessarily work as advertised. Especially as the appeal for Saturn Pro for me was native ethernet drivers.

 

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matmatija
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Awesome review. Thanks. I was especially interested in the SSD part. Can't wait for mine to arrive.

 

Btw. what exactly do you mean by this? It went much better in terms of ease of setup or in terms of performance while using it?

My testing in Windows connecting the Mantiz Saturn Pro with the LG Gram 17 and HP Spectre 13 OLED went much better than Boot Camp mode with a 2020 13-in MacBook Pro .

- MacBook Pro 2020 13"
- 2.3GHz quad-core 10th-generation Intel Core i7 processor, Turbo Boost up to 4.1GHz
- 32GB 3733MHz LPDDR4X memory
- Mantiz Saturn Pro II
- 1TB SSD


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Sunday Afternoon
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I've been getting the macOS warning messages about the third party drivers with my Venus and am also worrying about the implications for Big Sur.

Upgrading to the Saturn for the native drivers is really appealing as well as the 100W power delivery given I'm about to pick up a 16" MacBook from work 😀. I think I can live with ~500Mbps network speeds, though it would be good if Mantiz can provide full capability.

Question: is the SD card reader UHS-II compatible?

2018 15" MacBook Pro (RP560X) [8th,6C,H] + RX 580 @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Mantiz Saturn Pro) + macOS 10.15.7 [build link]  

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