Mantiz Titan Thunderbolt 3 Dock Review - #Donglelife Simplified
I have just received my Mantiz Titan thunderbolt 3 dock, but unfortunately I cannot recommend it. The coil whine that this dock produces is insane. As soon as I plug it in the coil whine starts, and it does not stop or get any less annoying. It is a shame because otherwise this could have been a good product.
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Mantiz: ● ●
i agree, this specs are not useful for for me either. and i'm sad to hear that there are technical considerations why it was not designed more useful.
it seems to me this product was designed in a way to satisfy easy of building instead of cover the needs of users. as OWC shows it is absolute possible to build such a dock: https://www.owcdigital.com/products/thunderbolt-3-dock
furthermore i guess most users here are not in an asia region or wont carry around a tb3 dock for presentations on a old vga beamer. for that dongles are much better suitable!
PPL kept asking why VGA there in a modern TB3 dock. It is not really to fulfill the need of the " Asian old projector " , think about how many 1080P monitor there and with the VGA + HDMI configuration, we still are able to make the dual displays concept workable in that scenario. Mantiz Titan is mainly for a video Dock with 87W to Laptop from $ 189~219. Compared with that kinds of full dock by selling $299, why not just add 100 to buy Mantiz Venus egpu?
we can see the OWC USB 3.1 Dock had been reached to 149, so we want to create a lowest and affordable price , meet the most important advantage of Thunderbolt large bandwidth , support the dual 4K @ 60HZ + A usb 3.0 GenI hub, + Gigabit lan. We made it affordable, meet the most requirement from users instead of making the SPDIF, lots USB but still share the same 5G bandwidth and firewire. Compared with Firewire, I'd rather to have my VGA to suppor the 1080P monitor & projector...
Mantiz: ● ●
Titan is a dock for display with power and some connection, and if you keep this in minds it is awesome.
This dock is now available for purchase from Amazon for US$229.
It looks like this is a great product. I have two questions:
- Does this dock limit the number of maximum displays that the MBP can drive? I ask this question because I own a Caldigt TS3+, 1 4K display, and 2 FHD ones. As soon as 1 plug my 4K display on the dock I can't run the 3 displays simultaneously (the third is, of course, plugged directly on the MBP). The only configuration which works is: plug the 4K screen directly on the MBP then plug the dock with the 2 FHD. I plan to upgrade my setup with 3 4K screens so the Caldigit won't be usable anymore. May this dock introduce such restriction?
- Can this dock drive an eGPU with 3 4K screens without any limitations on his usage(ability to power the MBP 15", use of USB peripherals, audio...) ? 2D work exclusively (no gaming, no video editing, no 3D rendering), but heavy multitasking with a lot of terminals, huge code editor and many development software/tools running.
Yeah, if this thing had 3 DP, or even 2 DP + 1 USB-C (So I can run triple, FreeSync), it would have been an insta-buy.
it wont be possible in thunderbolt architecture.
Each TB3 chip had contained two DP source, there will be several kinds of configuration in designs,
TB3 chip --2 x DP sources or TB3 chip -1DP + 1 Type C ( that type C can be output to a DP or Type C downstream port )
Mantiz Titan we used the TB3 chip--2 x DP source, it means, if any user who has 2nd monitor, they don't need to buy a type C to HDMI or Type C to DP adapter. they can use Mantiz Titan 2 DP or 1DP+ HDMI, 1VGA + HDMI, 1DP + VGA, four kinds of configs , there's no any extra adapter to make the 2nd monitor lighting up.
The two DisplayPort inputs to the TB3 chip are DisplayPort 1.2. Both DisplayPort 1.2 inputs can use MST to support more than one display. Thunderbolt doesn't care whether the DisplayPort signals are SST or MST. You need a display that supports MST (they have a DisplayPort output for daisy chaining) or a MST hub. The number of displays allowed is only limited by the DisplayPort bandwidth (17.28 Gbps per DisplayPort 1.2 port) and the graphics driver. The macOS graphics drivers don't support MST for multiple displays but they do support MST in old 4K displays that use one stream for the left half of the screen and another stream for the right half. The macOS graphics drivers support dual DisplayPort for 5K screens like the LG UltraFine 5K (over Thunderbolt) and Dell UP2715K (two DisplayPort cables).
The Mantiz Titan has 4 display outputs, but it does not have a built-in MST hub, so you can only use two of the outputs at once (an MST hub wouldn't be useful to macOS). The dock includes a built-in active DisplayPort 1.2 to HDMI 2.0a converter and a built-in DisplayPort to VGA adapter so you don't need additional dongles. Most Thunderbolt 3 docks only support HDMI 1.4 because they use the limited passive DP dual mode method? I guess a DisplayPort 1.2 dual mode supporting HDMI 2.0 doesn't exist because HDMI 2.0 uses 6 Gbps per lane which is greater than the 5.4 Gbps of DisplayPort 1.2. DisplayPort 1.3 dual mode is supposed to support HDMI 2.0 but I don't know of a passive adapter that does that.
Does this dock limit the number of maximum displays that the MBP can drive? I ask this question because I own a Caldigt TS3+, 1 4K display, and 2 FHD ones. As soon as 1 plug my 4K display on the dock I can't run the 3 displays simultaneously (the third is, of course, plugged directly on the MBP). The only configuration which works is: plug the 4K screen directly on the MBP then plug the dock with the 2 FHD. I plan to upgrade my setup with 3 4K screens so the Caldigit won't be usable anymore. May this dock introduce such restriction?
Each side of the MacBook Pro has a Thunderbolt 3 controller. Each Thunderbolt controller supports two displays. Therefore, you must make sure the dock with it's two displays is connected to a different side of the MacBook Pro than the third display. If the 4K display is an old MST display, then it counts as two displays.
Can this dock drive an eGPU with 3 4K screens without any limitations on his usage(ability to power the MBP 15", use of USB peripherals, audio...) ? 2D work exclusively (no gaming, no video editing, no 3D rendering), but heavy multitasking with a lot of terminals, huge code editor and many development software/tools running.
The dock doesn't have a second Thunderbolt connector so it must be at the end of the Thunderbolt chain. Many eGPU's also have only one Thunderbolt 3 port (anyone tell me why Intel imposed this limitation on eGPU's?) so it has to be connected to a different Thunderbolt port. For best gaming/video performance, the displays should be connected directly to the eGPU's graphics card, therefore the only useful ports on the dock will be the USB and ethernet ports (unless you want to connect more than the 4+ displays supported by the eGPU's graphics card).