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NeynaSz
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Excuse me.
I want to know about "OMEN Accelerator by HP"
"Series GA1-1002l " that sell in Thailand can use with apple thunderbolt adapter for tranform thunderbolt3 to thunderbolt2 for using with Macbook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Early 2015) ? or it can't ?

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4chip4
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There is no reason why the enclosure itself wouldn't work in such a setup, performance notwithstanding - the bigger challenge is setting things up on the Mac side. Note that the official instructions and setup are all for NVidia GPUs and Windows, so make sure you familiarize yourself with the guides (and limitations) on this forum as that's pretty much all the info you'll have for Mac setups. 

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Gainiac
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Got the Omen Accelerator for around 240€ with a student discount which is a very impressive price. Currently running with my Dell XPS 13 with i5 8250U.

Despite the fact that the XPS has "only" 2 TB Lanes, it runs as smooth as my old Desktop with the i5 2500k.

Definitely the best decision I've made!

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adamtoday
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4chip4
Thank you for comments. It is good to know that sleep and wakeup are supported with eGPU.

If the SSD storage is connected as UAS (USB-Attached-SCSI), then it is same as adding an SSD with a USB enclosure from any other available USB3 port at the back of other eGPU boxes. So eGPU with internal SATA port won't be that special. I was expecting SSD inside eGPU is connected as native eSATA connection. This is important because it allows upgrading SSD firmware. it also can provide much better 4k read/write. ( both are not supported with UAS (USB-Attached-SCSI) ). having eSata should be possible because thunderbolt port has PCI lan there are other converters that convert thunder to eSata. of course I understand some company may simply use UAS inserted of eSata to save cost but from my view, it won't be professional a eGPU. Thanks!

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adamtoday
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@itsage Thank you for comments. May I ask another request? If it is not much a trouble. Please include a screenshot of Device Manager that can show if SSD storage is connected as eSATA OR USB ( usdb3orUSB3.1?) Thanks!

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Posted by: adamtoday

@itsage Thank you for comments. May I ask another request? If it is not much a trouble. Please include a screenshot of Device Manager that can show if SSD storage is connected as eSATA OR USB ( usdb3orUSB3.1?) Thanks!

In my Lenovo Yoga 720 implentation with OMEN Accelerator, I posted a HWiNFO64 screen capture showing USB hub.

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Posted by: adamtoday

4chip4
Thank you for comments. It is good to know that sleep and wakeup are supported with eGPU.

If the SSD storage is connected as UAS (USB-Attached-SCSI), then it is same as adding an SSD with a USB enclosure from any other available USB3 port at the back of other eGPU boxes. So eGPU with internal SATA port won't be that special. I was expecting SSD inside eGPU is connected as native eSATA connection. This is important because it allows upgrading SSD firmware. it also can provide much better 4k read/write. ( both are not supported with UAS (USB-Attached-SCSI) ). having eSata should be possible because thunderbolt port has PCI lan there are other converters that convert thunder to eSata. of course I understand some company may simply use UAS inserted of eSata to save cost but from my view, it won't be professional a eGPU. Thanks!

Let's put things into perspective - this is part of the Omen line (not Z), which means it's a gaming-oriented device (it's not pretending to be a TB3 dock by a long shot). The goal of having the drive in the enclosure is exactly what you described - to not have an extra external HDD attached to the USB ports which you would normally use for gaming peripherals. Adding features that increase price but decrease gaming performance would be counterproductive. It *is* an eGPU enclosure first and foremost, and the Omen Accelerator is already one of the most affordable enclosures given the feature set. In hindsight, with all the issues on the external ports of the Intel controllers, it seems it has proven to be a very good decision.

I'm repeating myself here, but if USB3 bandwidth is not enough for your HDD use-cases, then that means you're willing to compromise on eGPU performance (and if you're connected via an x2/GT2 limited port like many PCs are today, it would simply kill your GPU performance in games altogether). I'd say if that matters for you, you probably would be better off getting a separate TB3 drive (this is not just about the Omen but pretty much all the current-gen eGPUs - they are simply made to be eGPU enclosures and not full-blown TB3 docks).

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roaldseth
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i got a Hp Omen 17-w280no 17.3 and im wondering since its the same producent, if i buy a accelerator with Nvidia GTx 1060, 6 GB.
would i be able to run SLI?
Specs;
Nvidia GTX 1060, 6 GB
Intel Core i7-7700HQ CPU
16 GB DDR4 RAM, 512 GB SSD
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@roaldseth, your system specs do not indicate the prescence of a Thunderbolt 3 USB-C port. Without which you cannot have Thunderbolt eGPU connectivity. The other limitation is Nvidia drivers check for a x8 electrically linked video card to be able to be used for SLI. Thunderbolt connectivity is at x4.

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Andreas Larsson
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Hi!
I'm new to the eGPU community and I'm finding it somewhat hard to find information/troubleshooting as it seem to vary between setups but, your setup is the most similar to mine (MBP 15 2017, Omen accelerator, gtx 1080). I could only get it to work in win 10 on external display through hdmi via bootcamp vs. High Sierra which is not surprising. Until it crashed while loading a game, I couldn't even bring up task manager. So I force shut down the computer, replugged all the cables and rebooted.
Now it wasn't detected by windows, which happened before so I shut down, and replugged all the cables but when i connected the power cable, it made a sound and tripped the circuit breaker in our apartment?? I waited a while and tried reconnecting all the cables and booted up which worked like it should, although this time the gfx card wasnt detected, the Omen app prompted insert graphics card. I tried tb port on the right side where it worked again giving signal to the external screen, but crashed again like before when loading a game. All the thunderbolt ports now acts the same, the accelerator seems to be recognized but not the gfx card inside which I also tried reconnecting.
The firmware for the epgu provided by HP doesn't want to reinstall it states something like EFUSE data fail.

I switched power cable to no avail, I'll try reinstalling windows and the drivers if possible. I'll also try to get hold of another tb 3 cable to rule that out.

Might you have any insight as what the problem could be or what else I could try, before calling HP and claiming the Omen accelerator damaged my gpu with a faulty power supply of sorts.
(I don't have a stationary where I can confirm how the 1080 is working properly or not)

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