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Zach
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There is hardly any information on this as of yet, but there is another eGPU box on the horizon. 

Helios FX

I reached out to the company asking for more information, and didn't get much:
"At this time we are not ready to release any shipping date but it will be Mac compatible!" - OWC 

Helios FX

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After I unboxed and took photos of the Sonnet Breakaway Box, I can now see a lot of similarities in the only photo OWC has for its Helios FX.

It looks as if the enclosure is being placed on its side to give us a top view. These are a couple photos of the Sonnet eGPU inner cage. You can see the TB3 board, GPU slot, PSU location and fan mounting bracket match.

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Posted by: itsage

 

After I unboxed and took photos of the Sonnet Breakaway Box, I can now see a lot of similarities in the only photo OWC has for its Helios FX.

It looks as if the enclosure is being place on its side to give us a top view. This is a photo of the Sonnet eGPU inner cage. You can see the TB3 board, GPU slot, PSU location and fan mounting bracket match.   

Keen observation!!! Not so new perhaps as once thought...

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I was tracking this device too. The OWC Helios was a rebadged AKiTiO Thunder2 with a rotated chassis. So what do we see here? It’s a Sonnet Breakaway Box with, you guessed it, a rotated chassis. You can see the screw holes, PSU, caps, SFX PSU cabling, FC symbol, Thunderbolt port of the Breakaway Box below all line up with the OWC Helios FX blurry pic.

Moving right along then for a TB3 enclosure that offers at least 60W USB-C charging power.

EDIT: itsage beat me to it.

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If OWC actually positions the GPU at the bottom as shown, how effective is cooling?

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Posted by: itsage

 

If OWC actually positions the GPU at the bottom as shown, how effective is cooling?

   

The video card will be face down trying to draw cool air between a very small space between it and the ground/base. A constricted cooling solution. That’s based on what we know now about the Sonnet Breakaway Box. I’d bet that OWC FX Helios blurry pic was a quick promotional pic that has little to do with the final product. Or at the very least it was a non-working unit they rotated around to take a photo of. Basic cooling physics tells us it’s a flawed orientation.

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ikir
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this is indeed an exiting time to be a Mac user and eGPU enthusiast. this could be the first eGPU box with official Mac compatibility.


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Mac compatibility and Mac certified is a huge difference. We know with the AKiTiO Node‘s firmware change on January 6th, 2017 that all TI83 enclosures are Mac compatible. This change in Thunderbolt 3 firmware also enables non-eGPU certified hosts work with external graphics cards.

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How many of them are going out now?? It is incredible. And yes, it looks really near to the Sonnet one...

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Tried to look for this at the OWC Booth at NAB. They're not showing it unfortunately. A rep told me they're not showing it cause it's not the final design and they're still deciding if it's still worth it.

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Posted by: itsage

 

Mac compatibility and Mac certified is a huge difference. We know with the AKiTiO Node's firmware change on January 6th, 2017 that all TI83 enclosures are Mac compatible. This change in Thunderbolt 3 firmware also enables non-eGPU certified hosts work with external graphics cards.

   

Itsage is correct. There's no any eGPU hv to pass through Mac Certification. because there's no such Certification process exist.

Mac Compatible only means= an extension PIC-e Device are recognized by MacOS. 

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The Sonnet eGFX Breakaway Box is actually Thunderbolt Certified for Mac and Windows and is macOS compatible in that it there are not hacks, updates or other workarounds required - it just works out of the box. This is not to imply that a workaround isn't still required to get macOS to recognize the GPU card. Also, the support for hot-plug and surprise disconnect, which is a hallmark of the Thunderbolt experience (especially on Macs) does not yet exist for GPU cards connected over Thunderbolt - this is a compatibility issue between GPU card drivers and macOS. 

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Here’s the landing page for OWC Mercury Helios FX. This seems like a rebadged Sonnet Breakaway Box 550.

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Here’s the landing page for OWC Mercury Helios FX. This seems like a rebadged Sonnet Breakaway Box 550.

Costs US$30 less and gets a superior 3yr warranty as opposed to Sonnet’s 1y:

US$319 OWC Mercury Helios FX 
US$349 Sonnet Breakaway 550

Just curious what firmware is on the OWC unit.

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Why is the OWC Helios FX not listed in the "Best eGPU Enclosures Reviewed - External GPU Buyer's Guide 2019" and why is there no dedicated hardware review of this eGPU enclosure either, i.e. this even if very similar or identical to the Sonnet Breakaway 550 unit ?

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@slhdsnet This is because it has the same components as Sonnet Breakaway Box. Second of all, there’s currently no build guides with the OWC Helios FX.

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@itsage Thank you for the explanation.  Given I am successfully running an AMD Sapphire RX 580 eGPU via the OWC Helios FX, I would be very pleased to write a relevant build guide based on my experiences thus far.  I guess I simply need to follow the build template to begin with but how does one insert a picture in a reply such as this one ?  Have been unable to post any picture at this point.

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@slhdsnet, the build guide template cues you in about attaching pictures:

Hardware pictures (note: require 5+ posts for “attach files” button to appear. Or can link from say http://imgur.com )

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@nando4 This is perfect, thank you.  I will have my build guide made available shortly for moderator's review.  Cheers.

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Is the just announced (CES2019) and released FX 650 different from a Sonnet 550 though?
https://www.owcdigital.com/products/mercury-helios-fx-650

Nobody has even mentioned this enclosure here, yet.

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@pizzapino It’s the same as Sonnet Breakaway Box 650. All components are the same except for the Enermax 650W SFX power supply to handle RX Vega 64.

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@nando4 Just a quick glimpse for the records, i.e. my eGPU build comprising the OWC Helios FX enclosure with Sapphire NITRO+ RX 580 up and running !!
(Testing picture insertion)

OWC Helios FX & Sapphire NITRO+ RX 580

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@nando4  Quick question in regards the Build template.  Can one start a draft of his own build guide and then save as "draft" to finish at a later time or does a build guide have to be fully completed before submitting for moderator review ?  Thanks.

 

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@slhdsnet, you can use the editor to edit your post, click the {;} source code toolbar, copy the code and save it locally as a txt file. Once you exit your post editting, the post will be lost. When ready, create a new post & paste that source code for either a new editting session or to submit the post.

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@nando4  Perfect, thank you Sir.   😉 

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I noticed the Helios FX eGPU enclosure is not in the buyer's guide.  Any reason why?  Any reviews?

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@mwo21  See @itsage reply of January 14, 2019 9:10 pm to me for the very same question.  Cheers.  🙂

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eGPU.io members | Not sure what to think of the score but here is the result while running a LuxMark v3.1 benchmark on my nMP with eGPU RX 580 set-up.

nMP LuxMark v3.1 OpenCL GPUs

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@slhdsnet An RX580 typically does 13-15K on that test alone. Check that. A single RX Vega 64 is more powerful than all 3 combined.

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@mac_editor  Yup and indeed, an RX Vega 64 is pretty tempting !!  What would be the average benchmark for the same test with the Vega 64 ?  Given I'm a newcomer to the eGPU world, it appears my current set-up score of 28580 is thus pretty good.  Can you confirm or am I missing something here ?  Thanks.

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@slhdsnet A Vega 64 can exceed 30K+ on Mojave if it doesn't throttle. Your benchmark is good, but only apps that are built to utilize multiple GPUs will benefit. For example, since I use Final Cut, which doesn't have support for eGPU (needs Prefer eGPU checked in Mojave - still uses one GPU primarily), it would not be too helpful. On the other hand, with something like DaVinci Resolve, we might have similar performance numbers vs. V64. Objectively the benchmark numbers in summation are pretty great for you, given how cost-friendly/effective the 580 is, and makes for a good setup IMO (especially with the right apps).

You can look at one of my build guides for V64 benchmarks.

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I had an RTX2080Ti that made easily 40k+ (on Windows), but the rest wasn't too impressing and of course doesn't work with MacOSX. If you want it higher, go for nVidia cards which simply have more power (that is not a synonym for better).

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eGPU.io members | Installed the latest Mojave 10.14.3 (18D109) update yesterday and for reference, my latest benchmark while running LuxMark v3.1 on my nMP with eGPU RX 580 set-up has improved a little.  My best was 28580 before (~28300 on average) and is now 28652 after the update (~28600 on average).  I guess, moving in the right direction !!

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Hello, I am really hoping someone can assist me as I have been trying for weeks now. I already did a fresh install of High Sierra on my mbp. As of now...without doing anything, either purge-wrangler or automate-efi my Mac can see the Helios FX connected and see that there is an external "AMD" gpu connected.

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But as soon as I run either the purge or the automate...I get this as soon as I boot up and connected the enclosure...

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The I am not even able to go through booting to Mac OS with the automate as I get that screen right away and I get it once I installed the purge script. But once I removed the script, I am able to use my Mac but the same with the screen shots where the enclosure is there but doesn't see the gpu properly. Please help, please, please. Please help me get this running. I have an RX 560 on the enclosure that I have from my old pc.

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