Razer Core V2 Announced with TI83 Controller and Dedicated Expansion I/O Solution  

Page 2 / 2 Prev
 

irev210
(@irev210)
Trusted Member
Joined:12 months  ago
Posts: 51
November 21, 2017 3:48 pm  
Posted by: theitsage

I agree with your assessment of the eGPU enclosures you mentioned. It's too bad about the OMEN Accelerator. It's a very good price point for the features it has. Unfortunately the usability issues (due to design) make a terrible first impression on someone who wants to try external graphics.

Yeah, I figured custom HP designed main board with HP validation would make it more reliable - that ended up being completely false.  Given that most boards are based off that same OEM design, I thought it would be nice to try a completely different approach... which failed miserably.  What the heck where they thinking with that GPU screw??? Why make it so hard to install a GPU?  Stick your gpu down a dark hole and hope you land in the PCI-E slot... and if you wanna take the GPU out, good luck?

You really gotta check out the V2's release latch design, frigging genius.  They really improved that over the V1 now that it goes all the way to the backside.  I'll take some more pics tonight.


nando4 liked
ReplyQuote
chaosmage
(@chaosmage)
Eminent Member
Joined:8 months  ago
Posts: 42
November 21, 2017 7:48 pm  

@irev210, Core V2 can deliver max 375W for the GPU, but Vega64 is much more hungry. Did you experience any problems during the peak load?


ReplyQuote
irev210
(@irev210)
Trusted Member
Joined:12 months  ago
Posts: 51
November 21, 2017 7:56 pm  
Posted by: chaosmage

@irev210, Core V2 can deliver max 375W for the GPU, but Vega64 is much more hungry. Did you experience any problems during the peak load?

Why do you think vega is "much more hungry"?  There are no problems during peak load.

Seems to be just fine for a high quality 500W power supply...  Even absolute peak of 385w for 50ms is just fine for the razer v2.

I dont get why people think GPUs need 800W power supplies... especially in a eGPU where the main board and accessories only draw a few watts.

vega64

Edited: 7 months  ago

ReplyQuote
(@sean_aguinaga)
New Member
Joined:7 months  ago
Posts: 1
November 22, 2017 7:12 am  

Installed web drivers about a week ago, waited for the box to arrive. Everything on the unit works except for the ethernet port.

Fans on the box itself kinda ramp up and stay there, which is kind of annoying. Does anyone know of any benchmarks I can run to test performance and maybe see if the dual controllers it has mitigates USB 3.0 bandwidth?


ReplyQuote
Make Weird Music
(@make-weird-music)
Active Member
Joined:7 months  ago
Posts: 7
November 29, 2017 8:37 pm  

Long-time lurker, first time poster. Whee!

I’ve seen several posts about the Razer Core V2 here with questions/skepticism about the dual Thunderbolt controllers. I found this Anandtech article helpful, which states:

With its second generation Razer Core, the company uses two dual-port Intel DSL6540 ICs coupled with the newer TI TPS65983 controllers. The primary TB3 controller now uses all four PCIe lanes to connect the GPU to the host PC. The secondary TB3 controller is connected to the primary one using the downstream TB3 port of the primary DSL6540 (essentially creating an internal daisy chain) and uses its PCIe lanes for the GbE and the USB controllers (basically, the DSL6540 is used like a PCIe switch). In this scenario, the GPU always gets a priority and the traffic from the other clients is always routed properly. As a bonus, the Core v2 does not have compatibility problems because they now use the newer TI TPS65983 controller.


D G liked
ReplyQuote
Adam
 Adam
(@adamcnaglich)
New Member
Joined:7 months  ago
Posts: 3
December 3, 2017 4:11 pm  

If I understand correctly the Core will supply 65W, but the 15” MacBook Pro wants 87W? 

What are the ramifications of this?

Edited: 7 months  ago

ReplyQuote
Azure
(@azure)
Active Member
Joined:7 months  ago
Posts: 7
December 3, 2017 10:01 pm  
Posted by: anaglich

If I understand correctly the Core will supply 65W, but the 15” MacBook Pro wants 87W? 

What are the ramifications of this?

At idle, or during basic usage (e.g browsing), the only effect is that the battery would charge a little slower than if it had a full 87W.

Now, if you're using the MBPs CPU and/or built in GPU heavily, which causes a draw of more than 65W (which is quite possible), then the MBP will draw the extra power from the battery, meaning under high load, while plugged in, you'll actually (albeit slowly) be draining the battery.


ReplyQuote
(@squall)
New Member
Joined:7 months  ago
Posts: 2
December 4, 2017 6:46 pm  

Hi there,

 

i ordered a dell inspirion 7577 with a d3100 docking station. The d3100 arrived today and i discovered that gaming is not possible with my 3 external monitors (2 FH, 1 QHD) because of hardware limitations.

So i ordered a razer core v2 and a geforce 1070 and also a razer blade stealth 13,3. 

Do you think the core will work with the inspiron 7577 ? ive seen some guys use it with a xps. because i rather would use the inspiron 7577 than the blade stealth...

Thank you guys!


ReplyQuote
CodeBleu
(@codebleu)
Active Member
Joined:8 months  ago
Posts: 6
December 5, 2017 5:36 am  

Razer Core V2: Anybody got one? I have some questions...

Could I use it with a 15″ MacBook Pro and expect it to charge? Looks like 15″ MacBook Pro folks need to stick with Mantiz or ASUS if they want to have a full power profile.

Will macOS be happy with the new Thunderbolt controllers?

Do the dual Thunderbolt controllers solve the USB flickering problem (I can’t plug peripherals into my Mantiz Venus without them dropping out occasionally)?

Edited: 6 months  ago

ReplyQuote
irev210
(@irev210)
Trusted Member
Joined:12 months  ago
Posts: 51
December 5, 2017 2:32 pm  
Posted by: CodeBleu

Razer Core V2: Anybody got one? I have some questions...

Could I use it with a 15″ MacBook Pro and expect it to charge? Looks like 15″ MacBook Pro folks need to stick with Mantiz or ASUS if they want to have a full power profile.

Will macOS be happy with the new Thunderbolt controllers?

Do the dual Thunderbolt controllers solve the USB flickering problem (I can’t plug peripherals into my Mantiz Venus without them dropping out occasionally)?

65W power delivery which should generally be more than sufficient to charge your laptop (though slowly if you are gaming).

macOS is very happy with the TI83a + thunderbolt on this unit, no issues to report

Yes, the dual thunderbolt setup fixes all USB issues I've ever experienced on multiple eGPUs.  If you want functional USB, buy the razer core v2... no other eGPU seems to have working USB for everyone (at least in my experience).

Edited: 6 months  ago

ikir and theitsage liked
ReplyQuote
theitsage
(@itsage)
Noble Member Admin
Joined:2 years  ago
Posts: 2452
December 5, 2017 2:55 pm  

@irev210 Thank you for the confirmation that the Razer Core V2 provides 65W power delivery. This is sufficient for the majority of Thunderbolt 3 laptops. The eGPU enclosure's firmware dictates the set amount of PD (it is Intel certified and baked).

The power delivery wattage does not change to accommodate the host computer, eg: if your laptop requires 45W or 87W the PD will remain 65W.

The only instance where you may see a different number is with a longer Thunderbolt 3 cable. For example, the AORUS Gaming Box can delivery 100W with a .5m TB3 cable, but this drops to 60W when used with a 2m TB3 cable.

The specs of the Thunderbolt 3 cable makes a difference too. The 2m TB3 cable I’ve tried is an active 40Gbps.

In my opinion, the MacBook Pro 15″ will be just fine with 65W power delivery from the Razer Core V2. It charges at a slower rate than the original AC adapter.

Think of power delivery in the way of driving a 12-inch nail into a tree. Your choice of tool is a fist, a hammer, and an eight-pound sledge. The tree may resist but cannot dictate how hard each tool pounds. Given the same amount of relative force, the eight-pound sledge hammer gets the job done quickest.

Edited: 6 months  ago

Best ultrabooks for eGPU use

eGPU enclosure buying guide

56 external GPU build guides


D G liked
ReplyQuote
CodeBleu
(@codebleu)
Active Member
Joined:8 months  ago
Posts: 6
December 5, 2017 3:08 pm  
Posted by: theitsage

The only instance where you may see a different number is with a longer Thunderbolt 3 cable. For example, the AORUS Gaming Box can delivery 100W with a .5m TB3 cable, but this drops to 60W when used with a 2m TB3 cable.

The specs of the Thunderbolt 3 cable makes a difference too. The 2m TB3 cable I’ve tried is an active 40Gbps.

BTW, they have longer full speed TB3 cables now. They’re optical. I have one and I love it.  https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B074DT1C67/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Edited: 6 months  ago

ReplyQuote
 D G
(@d_g)
Trusted Member
Joined:7 months  ago
Posts: 73
December 5, 2017 3:13 pm  

So the Asus XG Station 2 and the Razer Core V2 are the only eGPU enclosures that don't have USB bandwidth or other USB issues?

Edited: 6 months  ago

14" Lenovo Yoga 920+ [a video card]@32Gbps-TB3 (HP Omen Accelerator) + Win10+ThrottleStop+Nekteck TB3 Cable 100W 6ft


ReplyQuote
irev210
(@irev210)
Trusted Member
Joined:12 months  ago
Posts: 51
December 5, 2017 3:15 pm  
Posted by: CodeBleu

BTW, they have longer full speed TB3 cables now. They’re optical. I have one and I love it.  https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B074DT1C67/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It's not optical, it's active (I have that same cable, works great) as in there is a chip on each side of the connector vs. passive as seen on the .5M versions

The optical cables are really expensive; you do not have to have an optical cable.

Posted by: D G

Looks like we still need more testing for accurate PD...  I knew 45W didn't make sense...

So the Asus XG Station 2 and the Razer Core V2 are the only eGPU enclosures that don't have USB bandwidth or other USB issues?

Asus XG Station 2 uses two plugs, so it's not really in the same class but it is a good solution to the problem (also note that the asus is huge).

I can only speak based on my experience but for me, the core v2 is the only eGPU I've used that was actually 100% stable/bug free.

Edited: 6 months  ago

D G and theitsage liked
ReplyQuote
 D G
(@d_g)
Trusted Member
Joined:7 months  ago
Posts: 73
December 5, 2017 4:09 pm  

2 cables of Asus XG Station 2 is fine with me if the ports work better on the eGPU, but you are right the Razer one cable implementation is nicer.  The Asus may have higher power delivery still and if not higher supplied power to graphics card, in any case.  Anyhow, just trying to understand the differences between these two options for egpu with better performing ports hub (otherwise to me paying extra isn't worth it).  It would be nice to get a thorough hand on comparison between the two.

I purchased the HP Omen Accelerator, but if I too have ports issues then I will be looking at either buying a hub or one of these two enclosures instead as they are better solutions...  My friend is purchasing soon too so would be good to know do you buy the cheapest egpu enclosure and a hub, or one of these more expensive offerings?  So this is important info and comparison to get right, to me.

Edited: 6 months  ago

14" Lenovo Yoga 920+ [a video card]@32Gbps-TB3 (HP Omen Accelerator) + Win10+ThrottleStop+Nekteck TB3 Cable 100W 6ft


Adam liked
ReplyQuote
nando4
(@nando4)
Noble Member Admin
Joined:2 years  ago
Posts: 1702
December 10, 2017 7:17 am  

@irev210, as requested, your 65W PD confirmation has been merged into your summary review here  & thread cleaned up to remove confusion about this.

 

 

eGPU Port Bandwidth Reference TableeGPU Setup 1.35


D G liked
ReplyQuote
Splitframe
(@splitframe)
Eminent Member
Joined:2 years  ago
Posts: 26
January 7, 2018 7:57 am  

Has Razer offered any compensation for Razer Core V1 users? The USB and LAN connectors are effectively unusable, but were advertised.


ReplyQuote
CodeBleu
(@codebleu)
Active Member
Joined:8 months  ago
Posts: 6
January 7, 2018 8:02 am  
Posted by: Splitframe

Has Razer offered any compensation for Razer Core V1 users? The USB and LAN connectors are effectively unusable, but were advertised.

They are not unusable if you’re using a shit GPU that doesn’t use much of the pipe. 😉


ReplyQuote
Technomad
(@technomad)
Eminent Member
Joined:3 months  ago
Posts: 22
April 15, 2018 12:22 am  

I'm running the Core v2 with my 2017 MBP 15" - everything fine except for the ethernet under OS X - it works fine under Win10/Bootcamp. So does anyone know of a Mac driver for the Core v2 Ethernet i/f?

Mid-2017 MBP 15”/3.1GHz, Razer Core v2, EVGA GTX1080Ti, LG 34UM95, HTC Vive, Samsung Odyssey, MS Hololens.


ReplyQuote
Ningauble77
(@ningauble77)
Active Member
Joined:5 months  ago
Posts: 19
April 15, 2018 5:48 pm  

Here is the page on ASIX website for the ASIX88179 ethernet chip in the core v2.  

http://www.asix.com.tw/download.php?sub=driverdetail&PItemID=131

You may have to manually set the connection speed on the hardware tab under network settings to 100Mbit to get it working reliably.  If I don't it stops working after 5-15 min or so.

Edited: 2 months  ago

ReplyQuote
Technomad
(@technomad)
Eminent Member
Joined:3 months  ago
Posts: 22
April 16, 2018 5:25 pm  

Thanks for the heads-up there. It connected at 1Gb/s, so I ran a speed test - after about 10seconds it failed completely and, as you note, I had to set it to 100Mb/s for it work again. That's totally unacceptable, so looks like my tenure of the Core v2 may be a short one…

Mid-2017 MBP 15”/3.1GHz, Razer Core v2, EVGA GTX1080Ti, LG 34UM95, HTC Vive, Samsung Odyssey, MS Hololens.


ReplyQuote
irev210
(@irev210)
Trusted Member
Joined:12 months  ago
Posts: 51
April 16, 2018 5:54 pm  
Posted by: Technomad

Thanks for the heads-up there. It connected at 1Gb/s, so I ran a speed test - after about 10seconds it failed completely and, as you note, I had to set it to 100Mb/s for it work again. That's totally unacceptable, so looks like my tenure of the Core v2 may be a short one…

I've been having some reliability issues with the ethernet adapter as well.  Pretty unfortunate.


ReplyQuote
Technomad
(@technomad)
Eminent Member
Joined:3 months  ago
Posts: 22
April 16, 2018 9:23 pm  

I've emailed ASIX tech support, but don't hold out much hope for a response.

Mid-2017 MBP 15”/3.1GHz, Razer Core v2, EVGA GTX1080Ti, LG 34UM95, HTC Vive, Samsung Odyssey, MS Hololens.


ReplyQuote
Page 2 / 2 Prev