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Razer announced today the Core X Chroma for $399 with immediate availability. It combines the best of the Core V2 and Core X. Using the same form factor as the Core X, it can house up to a 3-slot wide full length PCIe graphics card. Power Delivery is maxed out at 100W. The PSU remains ATX size but is now a 700W unit.

The positive attributes carried over from the Core V2 are expansion ports (4x USB-A, 1x 1GbE) through a pair Thunderbolt 3 controllers. It’s better than the Core V2 in the use of the latest Titan Ridge chips [Unboxing revealed Alpine Ridge controllers]. Chroma designation means this eGPU enclosure is now RGB equipped. The two lighting zones are alongside the GPU and the underside of the front fascia. Here are a couple photos from the press release. Once my sample arrives I will post unboxing photos.

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A Razer Core X with the I/O capabilities of the Core V2. Any word on whether it retains the liquid cooling support from the Core X?

This may be the Mantiz Venus killer I've been waiting to come along - Except the Venus is slightly cheaper (US$389), has the capability to run a 2.5" drive, has 1 more USB-A port and doesn't seem to have any real liquid cooling capability outside of some Radeon cards.

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The cooling fan bracket has not changed from what I could tell so most likely AIO water cooled GPUs will work as before. The most significant change is the use of dual Titan Ridge TB3 controllers. Also a not so obvious change within the specifications is that the Chroma comes with a .7m Thunderbolt 3 cable instead of .5m one.

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Posted by: Arbystrider

A Razer Core X with the I/O capabilities of the Core V2. Any word on whether it retains the liquid cooling support from the Core X?

This may be the Mantiz Venus killer I've been waiting to come along - Except the Venus is slightly cheaper (US$389), has the capability to run a 2.5" drive, has 1 more USB-A port and doesn't seem to have any real liquid cooling capability outside of some Radeon cards.

I find it interesting that you don't mention neither enclosure size, nor noise. Those are very important factors and Razer Core X doesn't shine in either one :/

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Damm, it sucks that they didn't release this before, i would have go with this one instead of the basic Core X.

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Posted by: OliverB
Posted by: Arbystrider

A Razer Core X with the I/O capabilities of the Core V2. Any word on whether it retains the liquid cooling support from the Core X?

This may be the Mantiz Venus killer I've been waiting to come along - Except the Venus is slightly cheaper (US$389), has the capability to run a 2.5" drive, has 1 more USB-A port and doesn't seem to have any real liquid cooling capability outside of some Radeon cards.

I find it interesting that you don't mention neither enclosure size, nor noise. Those are very important factors and Razer Core X doesn't shine in either one :/

No change on inner dimension and you can check it on their website.

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PSU fans noise may be vary, probably depends the card since they use sensor to operate it l. I heard from user that his core X isn’t loud and personally on  louder core v2 now is quiter with Evga semi passive cooling compared to active cooling before on founders edition 2080, mini Zotac 1080ti and 2080ti Turbo.
This is first video introduction from PC world.

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Good to see an improvement over what was a fairly good choice for new eGPU users. Though I would love a smaller edition (like for mini ITX-sized cards).

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Just made an order for it, was available in stock on the Singapore Razer store.

The only one drawback I think it has is the lack of front-facing USB ports, which I find really useful on the Mantiz Venus. Can be easily solved by pulling a hub to the front though.

any thoughts on the implementation using the new Titan Ridge chips? I’m not facing USB issues with the Mantiz Venus (post SMD rework), but I’ll never complain about more stability.

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Is the controller in this eGPU different from the TI83 used in other eGPUs?

From what limited info I've read the Alpine Titan Ridge connector mainly brings support for DisplayPort 1.4, and doesn't really change anything for eGPU setups.

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Good to see an improvement over what was a fairly good choice for new eGPU users. Though I would love a smaller edition (like for mini ITX-sized cards).

Seconded. Please. Someone. ITX.

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@rushvora TI83 is the USB-C controller. All Thunderbolt 3 enclosures produced since Q1 2017 have this Texas Instrument USB-C controller. You’d need one TI83 per physical USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 port. The Intel Thunderbolt 3 controller most often used in eGPU enclosures is Alpine Ridge. One TB3 controller may connect up to two ports. Beginning in Q2 2018 some vendors have used Titan Ridge. One advantage Titan Ridge has over Alpine Ridge is the ability to interact with USB-C host systems. I believe connecting the Razer Core X Chrome to a USB-C only laptop would allow expansion I/O and Ethernet ports to work but eGPU non-functional.

@mac_editor @eightarmedpet ITX options are available but hard to sell. The Gaming Boxes are successful because of their bundle value. Stand-alone enclosure like PowerColor and VisionTek Mini eGFX are not selling well. You’re limited by ITX-sized cards within the TDP the PSU provides and artificially in the case of macOS to AMD only. Despite being one of bulkiest enclosures on the market, the Razer Core X is the #1 seller. It can accommodate almost any GPU you want. I used the Big Mac comparison in my Core X review because it is exactly that. It’s not appealing to people who are more experienced with eGPU but it’s a very safe choice for beginners.

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@itsage I don't disagree with what you are saying but the size of these enclosures is crazy. I've been boring the pants off folks on my quest for a high end mini egpu for 2 years now and still nothing has materialised (OH HAI @thorzone).
My core and Vega 56 is annoyingly loud so looking to change set up again soon but nothing particular compelling is available.

I'll see what Navi brings, if it falls short i'm tempted to go back to Nvidia and get a Zotac Mini as they are small and fanless (external PSU I know) and choose the quietest RTX 2060/2070 I can find as just resign myself to not having a working eGPU in macOS.

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It’s not easy building the perfect enclosure. Contrast your Razer Core + RX Vega 56 to the Blackmagic eGPU Pro, you’d see a near 100% markup to cover their R&D cost to custom build that thing. It’s not as quiet as the RP580 version.

I think repurposing the mainboard from TUL Mini eGFX would make a great ITX enclosure. You can even build it vertically to minimize footprint.

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It's not easy building the perfect enclosure. Contrast your Razer Core + RX Vega 56 to the Blackmagic eGPU Pro, you'd see a near 100% markup to cover their R&D cost to custom build that thing. It's not as quiet as the RP580 version.

I think repurposing the mainboard from TUL Mini eGFX would make a great ITX enclosure. You can even build it vertically to minimize footprint.

Yeah, I have drawn up a few plans for custom enclosures I just struggle to justify the cost - buying an already expensive box just to cut it up and experiment. I'm actually tempted by the Blackmagic, although the 580 not the Vega as i'd get proper screen acceleration on my 5K in macOS at least.

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@itsage Thanks for the explanation! In your opinion, with a 15" 2018 MBP with 4 USB-C ports, is it worth spending the extra money on the Chroma version, or should I just get the base Core X? I already have dongles for ethernet and USB ports (2 dongles, 6 USB 3.0 + 1 gigabit ethernet), and bootcamp will be on the internal SSD. (in 2017-2018 beginning I had the Mantiz Venus, and I never used its USB-A ports due to stuttering/poor performance/disconnects).

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Interested to see if this new version has the same Radeon VII fans problem.....

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@rushvora For the best eGPU performance, single I/O enclosure is the way to go.

@crhendo I think the Radeon VII fan issue has to do the graphics card itself rather than enclosure. It doesn’t work properly with any enclosures in macOS.

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@itsage Let's say I don't use any other IO ports on the Razer Core X Chroma. Would the performance then be the same as the Core X?

Is there any benefit you know of, to go with the Chroma for the Titan Ridge chip, or will the Razer Core X with Alpine Ridge chip deliver the exact same performance, now and in the future?

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The Titan Ridge chip has more flexibility in terms of connecting to both Thunderbolt 3 and USB-C hosts is all. There’s no performance advantage when it comes to throughput. The eGPU performance will be the same as Core X if you don’t connect any peripherals to the expansion I/O of the Chroma. My sample unit will arrive later today. I’m excited to find changes they made to the PSU (whether it’s single rail 12V).

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Hello everyone,
I have a question. I have a razer core x for a few months that I use with an imac 5k 2019.
Would I have better performance if I bought the chroma model or not?
I'm not interested in lights and doors, I would just like to know if you have different performances.
 
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@cuppino no difference.

ok, thanks.

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@itsage Let's say I don't use any other IO ports on the Razer Core X Chroma. Would the performance then be the same as the Core X?

Is there any benefit you know of, to go with the Chroma for the Titan Ridge chip, or will the Razer Core X with Alpine Ridge chip deliver the exact same performance, now and in the future?

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the performance issue using the IO ports is minimal. First of all, the used bandwidth is not that big through IO ports. Second, most application/games/benchmarks don't even use the full bandwidth, so I would not bother.

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@itsage Awesome, so might as well just get the Core X.

@OliverB Gotcha. So if I have no need for the IO ports, no point in spending more for the Chroma.

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@itsage Awesome, so might as well just get the Core X.

@OliverB Gotcha. So if I have no need for the IO ports, no point in spending more for the Chroma.

If money is no factor, I would definitely go for the Chroma version, because it offers more possibilities. I have an Asus XG Station Pro and I am using the additional USB-C Gen.2 port constantly.

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I've decided this new Chroma version is going to fit my needs and tried to purchase one but on the Razer website and all other retailers it is listed as out of stock. If you have one of these, was it available for purchase right when it was announced or something? Or does everyone who has one get a review unit of some sort? I chatted with Razer and they said they don't have a release date yet. Anyone have any other info on this?

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I've decided this new Chroma version is going to fit my needs and tried to purchase one but on the Razer website and all other retailers it is listed as out of stock. If you have one of these, was it available for purchase right when it was announced or something? Or does everyone who has one get a review unit of some sort? I chatted with Razer and they said they don't have a release date yet. Anyone have any other info on this?

With whom did you chat? On german Store it’s available and €20 discount to €430, in UK store as well but not discount. Probably on your region, US? is already out of stock there and can’t send it since maybe ac adapter head difference between EU, UK and US.

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Yes, I am talking about the US site. On US website you can "chat" with a customer support agent that works at Razer. I can't imagine it's already out of stock. It is also listed as out of stock on Amazon and Newegg as well. I am just assuming they haven't started fulfilling any orders of it, in the US at least. I wonder why though... You would think that if anything that would start selling in the US first.

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Posted by: matt abbitt

Yes, I am talking about the US site. On US website you can "chat" with a customer support agent that works at Razer. I can't imagine it's already out of stock. It is also listed as out of stock on Amazon and Newegg as well. I am just assuming they haven't started fulfilling any orders of it, in the US at least. I wonder why though... You would think that if anything that would start selling in the US first.

Yes it’s, usually Razer sells firstly all their new stuff in US store and other regions come later since it’s their main market, that’s why I was assuming it’s sold out very quick. I think someone here already ordered it on unboxing thread, dunno from where, I thought it’s from US store. Resellers like Amazon usually stock it later.
Edit: confirmed from Razer staff it’s atm out of stock in US, he said it’s one of their best selling.

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@matt abbitt In case it's still relevant, I live in California and ordered mine off the Razer website on Friday, 5/3/19. Paid an extra $10 for the rush shipping, and it was delivered mid-day on Monday, 5/6/19.

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