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Eightarmedpet
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Posted by: mac_editor

Good to see an improvement over what was a fairly good choice for new eGPU users. Though I would love a smaller edition (like for mini ITX-sized cards).

Seconded. Please. Someone. ITX.

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@rushvora TI83 is the USB-C controller. All Thunderbolt 3 enclosures produced since Q1 2017 have this Texas Instrument USB-C controller. You'd need one TI83 per physical USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 port. The Intel Thunderbolt 3 controller most often used in eGPU enclosures is Alpine Ridge. One TB3 controller may connect up to two ports. Beginning in Q2 2018 some vendors have used Titan Ridge. One advantage Titan Ridge has over Alpine Ridge is the ability to interact with USB-C host systems. I believe connecting the Razer Core X Chrome to a USB-C only laptop would allow expansion I/O and Ethernet ports to work but eGPU non-functional.

@mac_editor @eightarmedpet ITX options are available but hard to sell. The Gaming Boxes are successful because of their bundle value. Stand-alone enclosure like PowerColor and VisionTek Mini eGFX are not selling well. You're limited by ITX-sized cards within the TDP the PSU provides and artificially in the case of macOS to AMD only. Despite being one of bulkiest enclosures on the market, the Razer Core X is the #1 seller. It can accommodate almost any GPU you want. I used the Big Mac comparison in my Core X review because it is exactly that. It's not appealing to people who are more experienced with eGPU but it's a very safe choice for beginners.

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Eightarmedpet
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@itsage I don't disagree with what you are saying but the size of these enclosures is crazy. I've been boring the pants off folks on my quest for a high end mini egpu for 2 years now and still nothing has materialised (OH HAI @thorzone).
My core and Vega 56 is annoyingly loud so looking to change set up again soon but nothing particular compelling is available.

I'll see what Navi brings, if it falls short i'm tempted to go back to Nvidia and get a Zotac Mini as they are small and fanless (external PSU I know) and choose the quietest RTX 2060/2070 I can find as just resign myself to not having a working eGPU in macOS.

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It's not easy building the perfect enclosure. Contrast your Razer Core + RX Vega 56 to the Blackmagic eGPU Pro, you'd see a near 100% markup to cover their R&D cost to custom build that thing. It's not as quiet as the RP580 version.

I think repurposing the mainboard from TUL Mini eGFX would make a great ITX enclosure. You can even build it vertically to minimize footprint.

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Eightarmedpet
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Posted by: itsage

It's not easy building the perfect enclosure. Contrast your Razer Core + RX Vega 56 to the Blackmagic eGPU Pro, you'd see a near 100% markup to cover their R&D cost to custom build that thing. It's not as quiet as the RP580 version.

I think repurposing the mainboard from TUL Mini eGFX would make a great ITX enclosure. You can even build it vertically to minimize footprint.

Yeah, I have drawn up a few plans for custom enclosures I just struggle to justify the cost - buying an already expensive box just to cut it up and experiment. I'm actually tempted by the Blackmagic, although the 580 not the Vega as i'd get proper screen acceleration on my 5K in macOS at least.

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar
GTX1060 + AKiTiO Thunder3 + Win10
GTX1070 + Sonnet Breakaway Box + Win10
GTX1070 + Razer Core V1 + Win10
Vega 56 + Razer Core V1 + macOS + Win10
Vega 56 + Mantiz Venus + macOS + W10

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@itsage Thanks for the explanation! In your opinion, with a 15" 2018 MBP with 4 USB-C ports, is it worth spending the extra money on the Chroma version, or should I just get the base Core X? I already have dongles for ethernet and USB ports (2 dongles, 6 USB 3.0 + 1 gigabit ethernet), and bootcamp will be on the internal SSD. (in 2017-2018 beginning I had the Mantiz Venus, and I never used its USB-A ports due to stuttering/poor performance/disconnects).

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Interested to see if this new version has the same Radeon VII fans problem.....

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@rushvora For the best eGPU performance, single I/O enclosure is the way to go.

@crhendo I think the Radeon VII fan issue has to do the graphics card itself rather than enclosure. It doesn't work properly with any enclosures in macOS.

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@itsage Let's say I don't use any other IO ports on the Razer Core X Chroma. Would the performance then be the same as the Core X?

Is there any benefit you know of, to go with the Chroma for the Titan Ridge chip, or will the Razer Core X with Alpine Ridge chip deliver the exact same performance, now and in the future?

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The Titan Ridge chip has more flexibility in terms of connecting to both Thunderbolt 3 and USB-C hosts is all. There's no performance advantage when it comes to throughput. The eGPU performance will be the same as Core X if you don't connect any peripherals to the expansion I/O of the Chroma. My sample unit will arrive later today. I'm excited to find changes they made to the PSU (whether it's single rail 12V).

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