hwinfo64 pic of enclosure ports (Aorus, XG Station 2, Razer Core)  

 

nando4
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July 25, 2017 10:23 am  

Does your enclosure with extra ports use a 5Gbps or 10Gbps hub?

Please attached something to the enclosure USB 3.0 port and then take a hwinfo64 screenshot showing the hosting hub and all other ports. This will appear like shown below, as captured on a Mantiz Venus.

 

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I'm seeing if the enclosures are using 5Gbps USB 3.1 Gen1 or 10Gbps USB 3.1 Gen2 hosting hubs as discussed here. The Mantiz uses the 5Gbps hub, which can become a bottleneck when hosting a multiple of USB 3.0 ports and even SATA/LAN.

It is unclear why these manufacturers are not using a 10Gbps USB 3.1 Gen2 hub since the TB3 USB controller is specced as 10Gbps Gen2.

 


Mantiz Venus - 5Gbps USB hub from here

venus usb hub

 


Aorus Gaming Box - 5Gbps USB hub from here

p3

 


Razer Core - 5Gbps USB hub from here

 

 


HP Omen Accelerator - 5Gbps USB hub from here

hwinfo

Edited: 6 months  ago

eGPU Port Bandwidth Reference TableeGPU Setup 1.35


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switch
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July 25, 2017 7:15 pm  

Not sure how one would use this screenshot to determine the USB 3.1 generation. Here it is:

aorus

 

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nando4
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July 25, 2017 7:22 pm  

@switch, thank you for the post. It looks like your USB 3.0 HDD is "[port4] Generic Superspeed USB Hub"-> "[Port3] USB mass storage device". If you connect your HDD to another Aorus USB 3.0 port does it appear under [port4] as port1, port2 or port4?

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eGPU Port Bandwidth Reference TableeGPU Setup 1.35


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switch
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July 26, 2017 7:32 am  

If I move it around the 3 USB ports, it appears as either Port 4 -> Port 1, Port 4-> Port 3 (this situation was pictured above) or Port 4 -> Port 4. I am assuming that Port 4 -> Port 2 is unavailable because the Port 2 under Port 2 is the QuickCharge 3.0 controller that's running the orange charging port on the Aorus (see the USB 1.1/2.0 controller under Port 2 -> Port 2).

 

Here's the pic without extra text (feel free to repost it):

aorus

Edited: 10 months  ago

2016 15" HP ZBook 15 G3 [Xeon E3-1545M, Iris Pro p580, no dGPU] + GTX1070@32Gbps-TB3 (Aorus Gaming Box) + Win10pro


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lungguy
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July 26, 2017 2:26 pm  

@nando4 alright I got it. 
Aorus Gaming Box

p3
p2
p1

Hope one of these shows what you need. I have keyboard mouse and headset plugged in to the box for it.


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July 26, 2017 2:57 pm  

Here's the Razer Core.

Best ultrabooks for eGPU use

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switch
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July 26, 2017 6:18 pm  

How do you guys tell this is about USB 3.1 Gen 1 and not Gen 2?

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nando4
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July 26, 2017 9:19 pm  

@switch, you can see on the right pane:

  • USB Device Version: 3.10 (or 3.0 in the case of the Razer Core)
  • USB device speed: USB 3.0 SuperSpeed

 

Worth pointing out too all the enclosures are using Genesys Logic USB 3.1 or 3.0 hubs (VID 05E3), that have no  USB 3.1 Gen2 controller product on their website:

http://www.genesyslogic.com/en/product_list.php?1st=3&2nd=10

Edited: 10 months  ago

eGPU Port Bandwidth Reference TableeGPU Setup 1.35


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July 26, 2017 11:44 pm  

I see. Thanks for pointing that out. For my two cents... I don't mind the "low" bandwidth. I just mind Intel's implementation with "reserved" bandwidth. eGPU should be exempt from that silly regulation, as it doesn't need H2D DP. Most of the time, that is.

2016 15" HP ZBook 15 G3 [Xeon E3-1545M, Iris Pro p580, no dGPU] + GTX1070@32Gbps-TB3 (Aorus Gaming Box) + Win10pro


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Denjin
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August 2, 2017 8:00 pm  

Here is mine – Aero 15 with HP Omen Accelerator attached.

hwinfo

USB details 🙂

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2017 15" Gigabyte Aero 15 GTX1060 + GTX1080@16Gbps-TB3 (HP Omen Accelerator) + Win10 [no guide]


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