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Wunair
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 Hello,

I've purchased a Mantiz Venus and it comes with a SATA cable, allowing me to add an SSD inside it if I want to. However this will cost me bandwidth as it goes over the same TB3 cable as the GPU. My question is, what would be the best setup?

1. I put my SSD in the eGPU and let it use the same TB3 cable, but I only use this for storage like games and such (as I already have Windows installed on my MacBook).

2. I put my SSD in the eGPU, but install Windows on it as well.

3. I go for external, which requires me to hook up another cable seperate from the eGPU TB3 cable.

Preferably, I'd go for #1, but I'm not sure how much bandwidth the SSD takes when it's only reading files like games. Can anyone give me some information/advice on this situation?

MacBook Pro 16" 2020 + Mantiz eGPU + RX Vega 64


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knames
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This is more a guess than anything, buuuut I think the biggest load times for most games generally occur during loading screens, and likely the video card isn't being utilized to it's full potential (especially for multiplayer games that have 'rounds'. I also don't think there's enough reads during gameplay for things like MMO's or games such as GTA (rendering the map), but someone more knowledgeable than me should pipe in.

 

Why don't you test it and see if you notice? Run it in the eGPU for a few games, then pipe it through it's own cable.

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Rycco
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I would install Windows on the Macbook, and the games on the SSD. 

Oh, and please, don't forget to update this thread when you get it done, I wanna know the performance of games (I assume would be just awesome).

 

 

2017 15" MacBook Pro (RP555) [7th,4C,H] + GTX 1080 Ti @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Mantiz Venus) + macOS 10.12.6 & Win10 [build link]  

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Wunair
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The reason why I can't test it right now is because I don't have a card. I've ordered an RX 580 and it's yet to arrive. I'll update when it gets here though!

MacBook Pro 16" 2020 + Mantiz eGPU + RX Vega 64


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kyledag500
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Have you tried installing the SSD yet? I found the SATA cable but theres no power for the SSD?

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rushvora
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The power cable for the SSD should come from the SMPS(PSU). Looks like this - 

2016 15" MacBook Pro (RP455) [6th,4C,H] + GTX 1080 Ti @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Mantiz Venus) + Win10 [build link]  

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huangyuhen
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I have XG Station 2 which I install my Windows on SSD. There are two cables come with station and USB traffic is routed separately if I have USB-B and TB3 plugged in into my laptop. I have tried install Windows on both external SSD nad internal drive. There aren't much performance different in terms of gaming. I don't notice any frame difference as well. So I would go for external Windows since you don't wanna waste your internal drive only for the time you wanna game. 

2016 15" MacBook Pro (RP460) [6th,4C,H] + GTX 1080 Ti @ 32Gbps-TB3 (ASUS XG Station 2) + macOS 10.12 & Win10 [build link]  

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andy
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Wunair, I have a 2016 Macbook Pro running Bootcamp with the MZ-02 internal SSD, but the performance is terrible. Have you had any success with your setup?

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MrDanne
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Posted by: andy

Wunair, I have a 2016 Macbook Pro running Bootcamp with the MZ-02 internal SSD, but the performance is terrible. Have you had any success with your setup?

Are you on the latest Mantiz firmware? I am trying to figure out if buying a external SSD is better than mounting it inside the Mantiz. 

MacBook Pro 15" Late 2016 Touch bar | Sapphire Radeon RX Vega 56 8GB HBM2 | Mantiz Venus MZ-02 Space Gray


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@MrDanne I am on the latest firmware. Mantiz sent me a replacement I/O board for the MZ-02, to get it performing correctly. The SATA and USB ports all work through the same controller, so there’s no difference between internal or external. 

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