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Guys, 
Check this - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/exklim/turn-your-laptop-into-a-gaming-rig-meet-the-ex-cor/comments
A eGPU is able to fully compatible with MacOS 10.13.4 with Nvidia 1050, supporting hot plug & play.
A eGPU is able to fully compatible with USB 3.1 Type C port.
A eGPU with 1050 MXM attached but can be driven by only Laptop Bus power.


Update 5: Kickstarter suspended funding of this project on the very last day, courtesy of our community and Thunderbolt partners.  😈 


Update 4: In-depth technical analysis by an Intel Thunderbolt developer, courtesy of @rafaarv.

Well if there is something that really bothers me are the scams and dishonest publicity, therefore what I pretend in here is to well inform user and real technology enthusiasts before investing in something like the "ex Core" without knowing some backgrounds.
https://exklim.com/
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/exklim/turn-your-laptop-into-a-gaming-rig-meet-the-ex-cor

So, Edgar:

Get serious, I guess in here nobody could be jealous about inventing technologies, at the end that’s what the gamers wants and they deserve an explanation. Also the "ex Core" has nothing new with it; it is using an already invented graphic card and an enclosure, nothing else and nothing that the gamers haven’t seen in the already existing “eGPUs”.

Going to the main point, nevertheless I’m NOT talking (and I’m not pretend to) for the company I work for, I certainly know this to be a potential scam. Yes, there still exists a possibility for me to be wrong, but even with my superficial understanding of this technology I know this to be so unreal (I wonder what else my thunderbolt coworkers could say if I call for they help).

But, we don’t need to go so far to see how this is a potential scam. Let’s just get on some basics:

  • Thuderbolt 3 was developed by Intel it runs at a peak speed of 40Gbps(5GB/s) and the most far it could run to “support” an “external” Graphic card will be PCIe 3.0 x 4 that will give us a speed of 31.52Gbps(3.94GB/s). It is capable of delivering a peak power of 100W, with the appropriate caliber cable.
  • NVidia GTX 1050Ti runs on a PCIe x 16, that will give us a speed of 126.4Gbps (15.8GB/s), demands 75W of power, reaches a boost of 1392MHz and has NOT NVidia VR (Virtual Reality).
    Go to the bottom and "VIEW FULL SPECS" ( https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/geforce-gtx-1050/ )
  • exKlim "ex Core" claims to have (NOT ALL CAN BE TRUE FOR SURE and we will see why):
    • 2 Thunderbolt 3 ports (one for power at 90W)
    • An enclosure that in the images looks smaller and in the practice (in large and height) is nearly the same size (4.1” x 5.9”) of the actual NVidia Card (4.38” x 5.7”).
    • NVidia GTX 1050 with 4GB (maybe the Ti Model?).
    • NVidia VR.
    • Overclock from 1392MHz (Considering Ti model) to 1680MHz.
    • Turbo Hashing technology.
    • Better performance that the actual GTX 1050 desktop version.
    • Power consumption goes from 10W to 33.7W.

Well, certainly not everything is sense less. Let’s see what actually makes sense:

  • 2 Thunderbolt 3 ports (one for power at 90W). Yes, NVidia GTX 1050Ti has a power consumption of 75W and if you overclock it may consume 90W or even more. Thunderbolt is actually capable of handling this power consumption with the adequate caliber cable (100W maximum), and if it is provided by an external power source you may not have problems with your laptop’s source power.
  • 4GB of memory. Yes, the NVidia GTX 1050Ti has it.
  • Overclocking from 1392MHz to 1680Mhz. This is actually possible if NVidia allows overclocking and with the appropriate hardware adjustments.

Now, let’s go to the problems that are a LOT and this is why THIS IS POTENTIALLY A SCAM:

  • The enclosure. The enclosure is so tight to the actual size of the GPU (4.1” x 5.9” VS 4.38” x 5.7”). Not to say that the thickness (0.8”) is not suitable (from my point of view) to provide enough cooling to the device. Also, if we are overclocking a device (from 1392MHz to 1680MHz) we will demand more power, which produces more heat, which requires more cooling, which demands even more power or advanced cooling systems. So, this could NOT be addressed this way.
  • NVidia VR and Turbo Hashing technology. NVidia GTX 1050Ti DOESN’T HAS VR and there is no such Turbo Hashing technology in it. You can check this out in the OFFICIAL SITE (check the link above).
  • Mining Bitcoins with Turbo Hashing. Well I definitively don’t think this inexistent technology can outperform a High Performance Computing (HPC) system that currently is the only system that could give you a REAL gain on this.
  • Power consumption (10W to 33.7W) while outperforming the actual GTX 1050 desktop version. This can’t be real, GTX 1050 consumes 75W and if you overclock it, it will consume MORE for sure. This are simple and basic physics but nothing more. If this is really using a GTX 1050 there is no way of lowering this down not even with extra technology connected to it. It will require a really new technology and reengineering the whole GTX 1050 from scratch (resulting in not more a GTX 1050) to achieve this results and outperform the GTX 1050 desktop version. If this were achieved it would be a great advance in technology, the bad news is that is not likely to be physically possible.
  • Finally: Outperforming the GTX 1050 version with an “external” GTX 1050 version or “ex Core”. This is not possible at all, not with the Thunderbolt 3 technology. The Thunderbolt 3 technology runs at 40Gbps (5GB/s) and if you are going to use it for a PCIe device it will be PCIe x 4 which delivers 31.52Gbps (3.94GB/s). The internal GTX 1050 runs in a PCIe x 16 port which delivers 126.4Gbps (15.8GB/s). WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THREE TIMES LESS SPEED FOR THE EXTERNAL “EXKLIM EX CORE”.
  • And let’s continue. One of the biggest GPUs/Coprocessors problems in the industry is the fact of trying to lower the latency and reach higher communication speeds between the CPU and the GPU. That’s why one line of the PCIe x 16 in the motherboards has a different color, which means that one is directly connected to the Northbridge or even the CPU(in some cases) instead of the Southbridge(the other PCIe are connected here). That different colored PCIe x 16 line is the one that corresponds to the GPU in order to work faster and accurately. If you connect your graphic card to the wrong PCIe x 16 port you will not get signal or, in a better scenario, you will get graphics with a BIG, (and I really mean BIG) lag (even your mouse may freeze).

Fortunately SOME (not all) Thunderbolt 3.0 could be connected to the Northbridge, nevertheless they still require a controller (this affects latency). So, if you already have three times less speed (40Gbps vs 126.4Gbps) how exactly is that the “ex Core” is going to outperform the GTX 1050 version with this bottleneck and this extra latency problem?

In conclusion. External GPUs exists because of the enthusiastic position of gamers of tuning their laptops to get higher performance when they already got a laptop that could be in some way “upgraded” (because they got an old or low end GPU in their laptops), experiment or simply get something “awesome” and uncommon piece of hardware. External GPUs with current technology are not going to outperform their equivalent internal ones, that is not possible right now, not even with Thunderbolt and doesn’t seems like the industry is interested on this. Why? Because the tendency is to make the GPUs/Coprocessors closer to the CPU or even make them the CPU itself to attack the latency and communication speed among them. That’s what Intel is doing with the Xeon Phi KNL (it is actually a processor instead of a coprocessor), NVidia with NVLink (replacing and outperforming PCIe) and AMD with Raizen and their APU’s (GPU embedded in the CPU).

So, please technology enthusiasts be careful with this kind of “ex Core” products. They are usually scam.

Regards.

Rafael Rocha Vidaurri


Update 3: In-person visit to "exklim office", courtesy of @iapx.

Their website is anonymous.

I decided to visit them, as proposed on their website and wasn't totally surprised to discover that they are not located here (have took selfie in front of the building and the company list).

Exklim postal box is hosted by a lawyer: Brouillette Legal Inc explaining why they don't appear anywhere.

With this link you will find name & address of shareholders and the administrator: Registraire des entreprises du Québec.
Click on "Find an Entreprise", enter the name (check the checkbox too), and it's done 🙂

Now, I could clearly state: it's a scam...


Update 2: some background on exklim's CEO, courtesy of @toor.

So far this is what I dug out + the info from the video that was mentioned earlier in this thread.
Video - - Spanish Audio.

EXKLIM LinkedIN Account: The LinkedIN account only has 1 employee and it is the CEO.
https://ca.linkedin.com/in/exklim
This is not too big of a deal but I wanted to point it out since they claim they have at least 16 employees with a lot of experience.
Proof -

Edgar was given a high tech gaming mouse by the Canadian Government.
Proof

This is a picture of the team - but the only exklim employee in that picture is Edgar.
From left to right (Names are public on Kickstarter Site)
Jisun Seo - GF/Wife and exklim Marketing Manager or something.
Alain Marter - tak design Artistic Director - http://takdi.com/2015/ - This company most likely was just hired to make the enclosure and they also used their offices for the photoshoot.
Edgard Eliseo - Real Life Tony Stark and CEO of exklim.
Stephen Burgess - Host of his own youtube channel that now belongs to exklim.
Robert Brouillette - Lawyer
Daniel Tasse - President of Tak Designs.
Brandon Lee Rolland - Professional model from Montreal QC
Proof -

The pictures of exklim offices are obviously not true. Most if not all of the pictures were taken at Tak Design building.
Proof -



The real exklim office
Proof -


Edgar has a patent number from Canada for a "Connector" he invented but there is no record of such patent on the Canadian Intellectual Property Office
Proof - Search for the pantent in the website below.
http://www.ic.gc.ca/opic-cipo/cpd/eng/search/number.html
Interconnector
Canada 41382768918761-1
Inventors: Edgar Eliseo

Edgar was also working on a new portable mouse around March 2016 but nothing came out of it.
Proof -



The Time Line doesn't make sense.
Kickstarter Time Line

Facebook

Canada Registration

Domain Registration

They claim to have been featured on Discovery Channel... they were indeed on Daily Planet but as an advertisement.
This is hard to prove but you can buy a spot from this Marketing Company - http://www.bellmedia.ca
Here is a clip of the Daily Planet video -
Here is the link to the Daily Planet show episode when the ad was played on tv - https://www.discovery.ca/Shows/Daily-Planet/video?vid=1247482

Their "Youtube Channel" used to be called "Own or Disown"
Proof - (Website http://ownordisown.com/index.html https://www.instagram.com/ownordisown/)
You can see that the host of the show is the same and Exklim just hired him to become his channel due views/content.
The youtube channel is https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkTweJExGMqp3NLvzvOn-yg
Last Own or Disown branded video -
First Exklim Branded video -

Edgar posted a video saying that they were getting ready for Marketing and posted a list of all the Youtube reviewers that would review his product.
The list includes Linux Tech Tips, Dave 2D, Unbox Therapy, Low Spec Gamer... NCIX ... which is no longer a thing.
He also states that these reviews will only happen after the Kickstarter Goal is reached.
Proof -
- Text in Spanish.

Edgar also posted in a Facebook Group that this is not a new project but that he has been working on it for a while and that the company has already spent $2M USD.
In this same post he also claims that they have a PCB Machine and that the calibration cost is up to $500,000 for whenever they have to make a change on the board.
Proof -
- Text in Spanish.

Here is their Kick Booster Spam Fest - Offering people $50 for each unit sold.
Proof -
https://turn-your-laptop-into-a-gaming.kickbooster.me/boost
I found the campaign in one of the profiles linked to his account on facebook - https://www.facebook.com/addmeif.youwant.3 but just like this one there are more in either english, korean or spanish.

More Exclim Shenanigans.

Apparently someone named Alenkoh was interested in becoming an investor. This is the reply he got from Eliseo.
Proof -

There was a guy that recognized Edgar Eliseo on the Facebook Group and called his BS regarding this picture. Why is this picture silly you wonder?
Because he is saying that he bought a lot of Alienwares in Canada for all of his employees and then he upgraded them all to Razer Blades just to work on the encore X project.
Proof -

This is funny because A) The first guy doesn't work for him since he is an Artistic Director at takdi.com/2015 and B)The other guy is the president of Takdi.com

The same guy that recognized Edgar and called his BS is being sued, he also called bs on the law suit and didn't show up when he was supposed to and got this email.
Proof -

Edgar Eliseo Shenanigans.

Edgar Eliseo is Mexican, his gf is Korean.
Edgar used to be a DJ and Video/Editor for his own brand "Exklim"
Proof -
Soundcloud - https://soundcloud.com/exklim7
Facebook - and

One of Edgar's friend's used to be the "Project Manager" @
exklim but he left the company in October 4 2017 to work as a DJ in a pub in Guanajuato, Mexico.
This is the PUB https://www.facebook.com/McCarthysGuanajuato/

Edgar used to share posts and pictures of all his laptops and put them up for sale in a Facebook Group but he got banned due he being disrespectful and bullying other users.

Proof -
Link http://www.facebook.com\groups\558938384220577\permalink\1692979060816498 (I am waiting for the admin to let me join the group to provide more picture)

Edgar also likes to make offensive memes

Proof - (Alex Juares is the former Project Manager at Exklim now retired and DJ'ing for fun)

Edgar likes to post pictures like this to show off in Mexican PC Groups.
Proof -






 

If you still need more proof then this should be enough ....



Update: A parody of existing components pieced together to create the "eX Con".

Great news guys! I was able to hack exklim's HQ in Montreal, Canada and found another eGFX they're working on. This one is using AMD RX 560 MXM which means native macOS support. I got a hold of the schematics too so I was able to put a prototype together within an hour. Here are some photos of "the Worlds Smallest PORTABLE GPU FOR LAPTOP !"

On the left side is Radeon RX 560 MXM and on the right is the main Thunderbolt board with dual TB3 ports.

I don't have a very good lab to fabricate the joining piece of these two boards so what you see is what you get. This project is named slightly different than the infamous "ex Core". Please pardon my terrible calligraphy.

And...it works! No cable required. I simply put my Toshiba ultrabook next to the eGFX then launched my game. Killing Uruks never felt this satisfying!

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This thing is nothing short of a miracle, which is precisely what makes it look so damn off. A lot of this doesn't match up to the knowledge collected by the community, which makes me wonder what is going on here. Not to mention, the comment section is a shitshow, and the level of English in use doesn't read like a self-respecting and capable company (from Montreal, no less - I mean companies from other countries have a less than perfect grasp of English, but one listed to be from North America? Eh...).

Asking questions means that you are there to steal info (directed at a backer who was trying to get a clarification about OS X support and non-TB3 USB):
We are starting to think that you came to look for information to copy our engineering schematics which would like to let you know that they’re patented and intel will not allow you to obtain their chipsets to build something similar to the eX Core. 

Intel doesn't do patent enforcement. And while I am not a lawyer, I am not seeing anything in the overall design of the box that would warrant a patent in the face of prior art in the eGPU world.

They have a "very strong patent":
Getting technical here is really difficult as we hold a very strong patent for the eX Core. 
And should show publicly within a year or so. 
Patent house allows this programs (per request) to stay private for a certain time to prevent high-end technology from being copied. 

No Comment.

"sentize Graphene" FTW:
eX Core copper piping is engineered with a precise architecture design, allowing it to stay cool during boost hours. It’s cooling solution is filled with sentize Graphene, this allows the turbo fan solution to keep it cool immediately.

Err. What?

"MicroCapacitors  LV2" run a GTX1050 off bus power :
As mentioned, eX Core it’s build in dynamic performance. (Called by nvidia) “Performance per watt” thanks to its MicroCapacitors LV2 eX Core is able to deliver its performance at 15w stated by TB3. High assic counts cards are usually very expensive, but all based on quotes. MAX-Q its Nvidia technology included in its drivers. 
It’s pretty simple 🙂

It is ASIC, not ASSIC. "Micro Capacitors" do not circumvent the laws of physics.

vBIOS Magic:
It’s what we call vBios 🙂 
No video card is set equally due to its change in Assic, our video card is set to run at 35w with dynamic boos at 1680mhz. Helping it to reach higher performance per engine.

Err, what? Is it 35W? 15W? Make up your minds.

English is hard, so are ASICs:
We suggest you dig a bit more trough technology. 
MAX-Q + MicroCapacitors + HIgh-ASSIC

So ASSIC was not a typo, since it repeats? And what's up with the English?

Wild USB Black Magic Appears:
Q: Just to verify, this does not work with regular USB 3.0? What about a 3.0 to 3.1 adapter?
A: There are solutions for this. We will send you all the information shortly 🙂

How exactly does a PCIe Endpoint materialize out of a USB3.0 connector?

Modded Drivers for Linux:
We will have a very strong community of modders coming from TechInferno, so please stay tuned to modded drivers for Linux/GNU 🙂

I know this place is not on the best of terms with T|I, but maybe asking T/I who these "modders" are is in order.

"Pre-Renderer" for TB1 and TB2:
For Thunderbolt 1 & 2, we have added our Pre-Renderer mode on board (controller) this can help minimize bandwidth gaps by preredering frames before being displayed. So expect full framerate on both ways. Since we are using an optimized GTX 1050 4GB GDDR5, performance lost is minimal. Imposible to notice. Stay assure that the eX Core will exceed your expectations 🙂 

How would that even work? If they said they are doing a compression module to utilize bandwidth better, it would make some sense, and require host-side support. But how does "preredering" (that English again) help with moving the frames back to the monitor if the bandwidth is exhausted? For that matter, how is "preredering" different from just rendering the frames, since they are all pre-rendered with regards to them being displayed.

A GTX1050 with "native" OS X Support:
the eX Core is natively compatible with MacOS with their recent update which includes: Plug & Play compatibility with the eX Core.

Considering Apple's official stance with regards to the status of NVidia cards, and bootcamp support, I highly doubt this is true.

Again - Bus Powered:
There's no battery in the eX Core, the eX Core feeds it self by your laptop 

so it's Truly Mobile.

The problem with those eGPU Boxes you mentioned, is that they are extremely big and heavy, as well they must be plugged to a heavy wall adapter. 
They're not truly revolutionary and mobile like the eX Core 🙂

How do you power a card at 15W? I mean, it is possible to make an eGPU that consumes 15W, but that isn't a GTX1050 running at normal clocks, and they advertise 1680Mhz (while later linking a card whose specs are 1354Mhz). That would not ever be doable at 15W, even if they bought the best GTX1050 dies in the world. They do mention their power adapter later in the comments, but that is not what it is mostly marketed as, so something doesn't add up.

Apparently Power-Delivery equals TB3, or this can work without TB3 at all:
If your laptop can receive power trough USB-C that's a good sign, means your laptop is 100% fully compatible with the eX Core 🙂

So again, either they figured out how to run eGPUs through any USB, or this is not true.

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It's not that strange.
It's Max-Q mxm card running at reduced speed.
It consumes about 34 W and I believe they mean that they use compact super caps to manage any power surges the card might need when it's being pushed. And when doing more of idling the caps will use the margin to charge.

Running around in game and shoot some might be trouble free but I do not believe it will perform that great doing constant high loads like CUDA etc as the capacitors will not be able to sustain such power delivery.

The whole thing is possible - except the fact about macOS support.

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It's not that strange.
It's Max-Q mxm card running at reduced speed.
It consumes about 34 W and I believe they mean that they use compact super caps to manage any power surges the card might need when it's being pushed. And when doing more of idling the caps will use the margin to charge.

Running around in game and shoot some might be trouble free but I do not believe it will perform that great doing constant high loads like CUDA etc as the capacitors will not be able to sustain such power delivery.

The whole thing is possible - except the fact about macOS support.

I know Max Q is able to be designed + large super charge capacitor.
But according to what they said, they are using this MXM
https://www.aetina.com/products-detail.php?i=185
I cannot see any evidence this card is Max Q MXM. Please advise..

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@yukikaze that cracked me up lol... Certainly sounds fishy and the good ol' too good to be true, but we'll see when its out to the masses (if it ever does). Claiming "native" macOS support for NVIDIA is rather interesting. If it is indeed native, then it must surely be some rather cool firmware/EFI trickery + NVIDIA web drivers to pull it off. I do have a hard time imagining it working without some kind of installer bundled with it I guess, but it certainly piques my interest regardless of its seemingly preposterous claims.

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@yukikaze that cracked me up lol... Certainly sounds fishy and the good ol' too good to be true, but we'll see when its out to the masses (if it ever does). Claiming "native" macOS support for NVIDIA is rather interesting. If it is indeed native, then it must surely be some rather cool firmware/EFI trickery + NVIDIA web drivers to pull it off. I do have a hard time imagining it working without some kind of installer bundled with it I guess, but it certainly piques my interest regardless of its seemingly preposterous claims.

hehehe, to make my life away from bored, I had spent 8 US to reserve a seat and watching how they response for all questions....

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exklim has approached us but there are too many red flags. I confirmed with my Thunderbolt eGFX contact and this "ex Core" is a pipe dream.

@mymantiz_john I like your recreation of their promotion video by plugging the iPhone to an X1 Carbon. 😆 

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If it was a 1060 in a high end small enclosure I would have thrown my money at them regardless... I just wish I had some engineering connections.

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It's strange indeed.
Wishful thinking from them?
Not-yet released product from aetina?

I would say that the 1050 max-q product is the least questionable part in their egpu solution 🙂

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