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ishikawa_goemon
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@sunny and @valkeriefire, since there are a few of us with the RTX 2070 Gaming Box, I am curious as to the effect of "silicon lottery" on this particular chip. I am curious as to if this could account for the better score posted by @sunny's Mac Mini. I am guessing that these chips are probably the "non-A" SKU and thus, already binned at a lower segment. What kind of automatic scanner derived O/Cs did you guys achieve with your chip?

Out of the box, mine settled in at an average O/C of +153MHz just using the Scanner software with MSI's afterburner.
I played around with the settings and have so far been able to get it running stably at +184MHz.
I noted that +980MHz was near the peak for getting extra performance with memory O/C. Too much past that, my scores started falling.

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To do: Create my signature with system and expected eGPU configuration information to give context to my posts. I have no builds.

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jerry Kansai
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Posted by: sunny

Interestingly, I got a better GPU score with my Mac Mini for this card but worse CPU score...

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/6319845

@sunny you’re comparing i5 vs i9.

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sunny
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Posted by: Joikansai
Posted by: sunny

Interestingly, I got a better GPU score with my Mac Mini for this card but worse CPU score...

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/6319845

@sunny you’re comparing i5 vs i9.

Yeah but didn’t think there would be that much difference between a desktop i5 and a mobile i9.

Mac Mini 2018 / Aorus Gaming Box RTX 2070


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sunny
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Posted by: ishikawa_goemon

@sunny and @valkeriefire, since there are a few of us with the RTX 2070 Gaming Box, I am curious as to the effect of "silicon lottery" on this particular chip. I am curious as to if this could account for the better score posted by @sunny's Mac Mini. I am guessing that these chips are probably the "non-A" SKU and thus, already binned at a lower segment. What kind of automatic scanner derived O/Cs did you guys achieve with your chip?

Out of the box, mine settled in at an average O/C of +153MHz just using the Scanner software with MSI's afterburner.
I played around with the settings and have so far been able to get it running stably at +184MHz.
I noted that +980MHz was near the peak for getting extra performance with memory O/C. Too much past that, my scores started falling.

I will run the OC auto scanner to see what I get. I think the better result I have posted so far might be due to the titan ridge controller in the Mac mini with direct access to cpu for lower latency.

Mac Mini 2018 / Aorus Gaming Box RTX 2070


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jerry Kansai
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Posted by: sunny
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Posted by: sunny

Interestingly, I got a better GPU score with my Mac Mini for this card but worse CPU score...

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/6319845

@sunny you’re comparing i5 vs i9.

Yeah but didn’t think there would be that much difference between a desktop i5 and a mobile i9.

It’s slower than laptop i7 8750H on cinebench multicore last time i checked, pretty sure laptops i9 will perform better.
About OC scanner it’s not accurate on egpu setting sometimes may interrupt display connection when you’re using external monitor and score may be higher than it should stable on your setting. For 2070 you can start from +150 core, and go every 10 plus until 3Dmark can’t run it.

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Razer Blade 15 2018, i7 8750H 16gb ddr4 2666mhz 1tb 970Evo
Razer Blade Stealth 12,5 2016 i7 7500U 8gb ddr3 1866mhz 500gb 970Evo
MacBook Pro 13 mid 2012 i5 3210M 12gb ddr3 1600mhz 500GB HDD
Razer Core V2 rtx 2070 Black 2040mhz Boost clock
Previous setting: rtx 2080ti Asus Turbo, rtx 2080 xc gaming, rtx 2080 Fe, Zotac Mini 1080ti, Evga 1080 FTW2 gaming.
Dual Monitor Predator XB241YU 165Hz 1440p, LG l24UD58 60Hz 4K
Portable Monitor Magedok 1440p HDR 60Hz usbA/C monitor

 
2016 12" Razer Blade Stealth [7th,2C,U] + RTX 2080 Ti @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Razer Core V2) + Win10 1803 [build link]  


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Ok I finally got my drivers working correctly and can access Nvidia control panel.  Got a good Timespy score that I am happy with.  7115 graphics and 6329 physics.  A GTX 1080 gets 7300 graphics and a desktop 2070 gets 8300. So we can meet a 1080 but are 15% under a real 2070.    I got a Superposition 4k Optimized of 6484 at stock clocks.  My RTX 2070 seems to run at 1930mhz stock.   

Dell XPS 9560, 7700hq, 2 Lane TB3: XPS 9570 8750H, 4 Lane TB3 enroute & Aorus 2070 eGPU enroute


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ishikawa_goemon
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@valkeriefire, I think you hit the silicon lottery! That's a great stock clock at 1930 MHz. You have at least +100 MHz on my chip. Maybe you got one of the "A" SKU chips?

@joikansai, thank you for the information about the OC Scanner as it relates to eGPUs. I had no idea about the tendency to show higher boosts than is actually stable. I'll do what you suggest and work on +10 MHz increments. 

However, in terms of real-world perceivable differences, do these overclocks manifest enough of a difference to warrant the time spent hitting that absolute peak frequency?

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Valkeriefire
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Ok, so I've done some more testing and I am liking the 2070 eGPU almost enought to keep it.  My unit can OC +80mhz on the core (higher causes TimeSpy to crash) which puts it around 2000mhz, and +500 memory for a total mem speed of 15000 mhz.  This consistently yields TimeSpy GPU scores of 7500ish, which is GTX 1080 levels.   Superposition4K Optimized at this speed is 6800ish.   Sadly these scores are not much over the 9560 scores.  This means the 4-lane TB3 connection isn't much of a benefit over the 2-lane.  But we're losing a lot of power vs a PCI 3.0x 16 connection which has 4x the bandwidth.   Oddly my CPU 9570 scores are varying some, 5600ish up to a max of 6329.   

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/33903174?

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/33903535?

Superposition4K80 500mhz
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sunny
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Posted by: Valkeriefire

Ok, so I've done some more testing and I am liking the 2070 eGPU almost enought to keep it.  My unit can OC +80mhz on the core (higher causes TimeSpy to crash) which puts it around 2000mhz, and +500 memory for a total mem speed of 15000 mhz.  This consistently yields TimeSpy GPU scores of 7500ish, which is GTX 1080 levels.   Superposition4K Optimized at this speed is 6800ish.   Sadly these scores are not much over the 9560 scores.  This means the 4-lane TB3 connection isn't much of a benefit over the 2-lane.  But we're losing a lot of power vs a PCI 3.0x 16 connection which has 4x the bandwidth.   Oddly my CPU 9570 scores are varying some, 5600ish up to a max of 6329.   

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/33903174?

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/33903535?

Superposition4K80 500mhz

Wow, how is your default close so high? It’s meant to be 1620mhz, even based off official specs. Does it show 2000 in the aorus engine tool?

Mac Mini 2018 / Aorus Gaming Box RTX 2070


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Valkeriefire
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The stock clocks on GPUs don’t mean much anymore.  Now with boost clocks is difficult to make apples to apple comparisons. My 2070 seems to be boosting to 1900-1930ish stock.  I can add an 80mhz OC and get over 2ghz, but if I try any higher it isn’t stable. 

This is should explain boost clocks to you  
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/5g9jo9/gpu_boost_30_how_it_works/

Sadly even a 7500 gpu score is what a rtx 2060 gets stock.  These external GPUs are not the best way to do things.  I’m tempted to return it and get use a small Ncase M1 desktop for gaming.  But I really do want to consolidate to one laptop.  Sigh.  Choices.

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