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March 18, 2019 2:23 pm  

Isn't it just this card without the shroud?

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March 18, 2019 2:43 pm  

@madweazl The heatsink and cooling fan are different than the regular card. Here's a photo I have with 90mm fan + shroud vs 130mm fan + no shroud. They were from GTX 1070 and 1080 Gaming Boxes.

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March 19, 2019 7:32 pm  

Even if the performance is only slightly better than Aorus Gaming Box GTX 1080, I'm tempted to buy this, due to the RTX features like raytracing and DLSS. Let's wait for @itsage full review!

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March 19, 2019 8:19 pm  
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Even if the performance is only slightly better than Aorus Gaming Box GTX 1080, I'm tempted to buy this, due to the RTX features like raytracing and DLSS. Let's wait for @itsage full review!

What exactly are you interested in? Happy to run whatever you like.

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March 20, 2019 2:06 am  
Posted by: madweazl
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Even if the performance is only slightly better than Aorus Gaming Box GTX 1080, I'm tempted to buy this, due to the RTX features like raytracing and DLSS. Let's wait for @itsage full review!

What exactly are you interested in? Happy to run whatever you like.

Can you try dlss on shadow of the tomb Raider if you have the game, it’s great FPS bumper. I got almost 10fps improvement on 2080 4K preset highest setting TAA vs DLSS, I wonder 2070 would be the same, no need on 4K on 1440p is fine I think.

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March 20, 2019 3:56 am  

Internal monitor at 4k and I have a lot less breathing room for the CPU.

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March 20, 2019 10:02 am  
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Internal monitor at 4k and I have a lot less breathing room for the CPU.

4k

Update your game, there’s dlss and Ray Tracing Update. Ray Tracing is useless but dlss is great, I think you can bump it to 4K 40fps if it’s playable to you, otherwise 1440p isn’t bad at all you’ll get smoother game play, AI on Turing tensor core will render on lower resolution and output on higher resolution. I don’t have 2070 anymore so I’m curious about that on this card.

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March 20, 2019 11:45 am  

Is there a visual improvement or largely just frame rates? I don't have a 4k external monitor and the lil 13" screen is far too small for me to play on at that resolution so I just play on a 1080 monitor.

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Is there a visual improvement or largely just frame rates? I don't have a 4k external monitor and the lil 13" screen is far too small for me to play on at that resolution so I just play on a 1080 monitor.

SoTR has better visual when you play on higher resolution unlike Metro Exodus before patch there’s no blurred images with dlss. I never play open world like SoTR, AC Oddysey, FFXV on external monitor @1080p only for benchmarking, they’ve great visual effects on higher resolution, and egpu great on this. With 2070 I played also SoTR @1440p, sometimes 5120x1440p surrounds dual monitor for extra view.

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March 20, 2019 9:23 pm  

theitsage I put a 3 mm thermal pad on the PCH. The average temperature down from 85 to 75.  And the time spy test only got 6078. This improvement is far less I except. Should I replace 2 mm thermal pad?

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March 20, 2019 9:45 pm  

@Valkeriefire, I use the same laptop but only got 6070 on time spy. How do you set up your laptop?

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March 21, 2019 7:44 am  
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@Valkeriefire, I use the same laptop but only got 6070 on time spy. How do you set up your laptop?

Do you have the H2D Firmware installed to your Box? Im Using an Ultrabook and my Thunderbolt signal pass though a HP G2 Dock. I got 22xx H2D and my RTX 2070 perform really well. Even when Windows tells me everytime that my eGpu needs to be directly connected to my computers TB Port and not going through a dock, it works like a charm!
Dont look to my CPU Score because its just an I7 8565U, but the Graphic score is pretty good from what i think: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/34675969?

But because of the CPU Score and the nearly none existing Multitasking opportunitys with that Ultrabook, i might switch to a DELL XPS soon with Hexacore. Dont understand me wrong. I really like the look of the new Specre X360 with that Gemcut Design. But i do a lot of things in the background while gaming etc. and its not feeling very smooth because of that.
But i will definately keep the Gaming Box. Even when its a little louder or when i always have to unplug/replug to get it working. The size of it fits my needs perfectly.

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March 21, 2019 12:03 pm  
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@Valkeriefire, I use the same laptop but only got 6070 on time spy. How do you set up your laptop?

Do you have the H2D Firmware installed to your Box? Im Using an Ultrabook and my Thunderbolt signal pass though a HP G2 Dock. I got 22xx H2D and my RTX 2070 perform really well. Even when Windows tells me everytime that my eGpu needs to be directly connected to my computers TB Port and not going through a dock, it works like a charm!
Dont look to my CPU Score because its just an I7 8565U, but the Graphic score is pretty good from what i think: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/34675969?

But because of the CPU Score and the nearly none existing Multitasking opportunitys with that Ultrabook, i might switch to a DELL XPS soon with Hexacore. Dont understand me wrong. I really like the look of the new Specre X360 with that Gemcut Design. But i do a lot of things in the background while gaming etc. and its not feeling very smooth because of that.
But i will definately keep the Gaming Box. Even when its a little louder or when i always have to unplug/replug to get it working. The size of it fits my needs perfectly.

I have the same CPU in an XPS 13 and get 41xx for a CPU score in Time Spy so I imagine it's a thermal throttling issue. I'm not familiar with the laptops cooling. 

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March 21, 2019 1:35 pm  
Posted by: madweazl
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Posted by: richelieu niu

@Valkeriefire, I use the same laptop but only got 6070 on time spy. How do you set up your laptop?

Do you have the H2D Firmware installed to your Box? Im Using an Ultrabook and my Thunderbolt signal pass though a HP G2 Dock. I got 22xx H2D and my RTX 2070 perform really well. Even when Windows tells me everytime that my eGpu needs to be directly connected to my computers TB Port and not going through a dock, it works like a charm!
Dont look to my CPU Score because its just an I7 8565U, but the Graphic score is pretty good from what i think: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/34675969?

But because of the CPU Score and the nearly none existing Multitasking opportunitys with that Ultrabook, i might switch to a DELL XPS soon with Hexacore. Dont understand me wrong. I really like the look of the new Specre X360 with that Gemcut Design. But i do a lot of things in the background while gaming etc. and its not feeling very smooth because of that.
But i will definately keep the Gaming Box. Even when its a little louder or when i always have to unplug/replug to get it working. The size of it fits my needs perfectly.

I have the same CPU in an XPS 13 and get 41xx for a CPU score in Time Spy so I imagine it's a thermal throttling issue. I'm not familiar with the laptops cooling. 

Stock vs Overclocked with external monitor
Stock vs Overclocked with internal monitor

Yes could be true. But i allready switched to the DELL XPS and i have no thermal issues anymore despite the fact that multitasking works perfectly now. even with 2 monitors i can watch a 4k video, play division 2 and do some browsing without any kind of laggy feeling. i do like that a lot more. i also do some renderstuff and the 6 core is pretty awsome for this. i might repaste it to get a higher clock rate and a little quieter fans. but so far it works for me

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March 21, 2019 1:49 pm  

Cool; did you get the XPS 15?

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March 21, 2019 1:56 pm  
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Cool; did you get the XPS 15?

Yes the 15. These are the starting Results of my first Timespy.
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/34737285?
But CPU is a  little throttling. Tomorrow i will repaste and reduce the Voltage Core.
But i have to say, the RTX2070 performed a little bit better with my Spectre Ultrabook and the 8565U. I dont know why. But the Score is like 4xx higher. I read something about an included Thunderbolt Chip in the U-Processors? Is that true? So cooling kicks in with Ultrabook while on the normal Notebooks its a sepperate Chip with no coolingpad whatsoever. I cant find the Thread anymore, but its in this forum somewhere. I will look for that chip and put a thermalpad on it soon.

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March 21, 2019 2:06 pm  
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theitsage I put a 3 mm thermal pad on the PCH. The average temperature down from 85 to 75.  And the time spy test only got 6078. This improvement is far less I except. Should I replace 2 mm thermal pad?

The PCH temp reduction is good. Like @chris_chrispy said you may want to flash the firmware with the full H2D speed version so that you can get the most performance out of this RTX 2070 Gaming Box.

@chris_chrispy U-CPU laptops have the PCH chip integrated so they share the same cooling system. H-CPU laptops have the PCH chip in a separate location and often times without any cooling. When you have Thunderbolt 3 eGPU and NVMe SSD traffic flooding through this chipset it overheats then throttles the connection to CPU. Here's my XPS 9570 build with some examples and a temporary fix.

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March 21, 2019 2:35 pm  
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Posted by: richelieu niu

theitsage I put a 3 mm thermal pad on the PCH. The average temperature down from 85 to 75.  And the time spy test only got 6078. This improvement is far less I except. Should I replace 2 mm thermal pad?

The PCH temp reduction is good. Like @chris_chrispy said you may want to flash the firmware with the full H2D speed version so that you can get the most performance out of this RTX 2070 Gaming Box.

@chris_chrispy U-CPU laptops have the PCH chip integrated so they share the same cooling system. H-CPU laptops have the PCH chip in a separate location and often times without any cooling. When you have Thunderbolt 3 eGPU and NVMe SSD traffic flooding through this chipset it overheats then throttles the connection to CPU. Here's my XPS 9570 build with some examples and a temporary fix.

Right! Exactly what i was looking for! Thank you very much! I will try to tweak it in a way you did it with that thermal pad!

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March 22, 2019 3:47 am  

@chris_chrispy My final result is 6229 overall score with 6280 graphics and 5956 CPU score. How do you get 7000 + in xps 15? I use internal display but it is unreasonable that could cause such huge different internal and external display. 

Plus: I tired both h2d and ver10 firmware but the differences is small at internal display.

Update: My time spy score back to 5601 with unknown reason. I don't know what's wrong with my laptop.

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March 26, 2019 2:08 pm  

Are you sure it's running of the eGPU? The results show the 1050 dGPU.

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March 28, 2019 1:23 pm  
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@chris_chrispy My final result is 6229 overall score with 6280 graphics and 5956 CPU score. How do you get 7000 + in xps 15? I use internal display but it is unreasonable that could cause such huge different internal and external display. 

Plus: I tired both h2d and ver10 firmware but the differences is small at internal display.

Update: My time spy score back to 5601 with unknown reason. I don't know what's wrong with my laptop.

I know this was directed to someone else but this might help. My latest scores in Timespy has been 7800+ in timespy and 17500+ in Firestrike. Here is what helped me to get those scores :-
1)+196 / +756 overclock in Core and Memory
2)Repasting Laptop with Thermal Compound.
3)Laptop Cooler - Modded my U3 Cooling pad and put two 120 MM AC Infinity Fans underneath. Temps dropped by 7 to 8 degrees.
4) Extra 120 MM fan next to AGB sucking the hot air out.
5)Using an External Monitor since my TB3 is limited to two PCIE lanes. Recently moved to a 1080p IPS Ultrawide and the experience is just amazing especially with HDR .

With my current setup the GPU stays under 70 even and my laptop does not go over 74 degrees.

@theitsage - Can you please send me a few decent links of good Tower cabinets which will be able to accomodate the 2070 Graphics Card since you already did this with the RX 580's? I prefer a Mini ITX but I can go for something bigger in case that 130MM GPU fan would need more clearance space.

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March 28, 2019 1:37 pm  

@nikunj_nik I used a Thermaltake PCI riser in order to provide enough clearance for the 130mm cooling fan. I don't have a photo of the Gigabyte RTX 2070 with the riser cable but you can see in the picture below there's a lot more space under the GPU.

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March 30, 2019 5:57 am  

New firmware out for the RWT2070, F1.3, makes the fans at idle almost silent. This is awesome, I was going to do fan mod mostly due to the idle noise, but now that the firmware update fixes it, no need. Although now I have spare fans...

Btw, it does not affect H2D or default fimware that you have, it takes only a few seconds and only updates the PSU it seems. Doesn't even require a reboot!

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N2070IXEB-8GC#support-dl-firmware

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March 31, 2019 2:06 am  

Has anyone tried the 2070 Gaming Box with a Carbon x1? If I'm booting both the card and the laptop from off, the card is recognized, but if I disconnect the card while the computer is on or try to connect it to the laptop, it won't recognize. The RTX simply does not show up in my device manager. I've tried every version of Thunderbolt 3 driver, all the different Aorus drivers provided, and all the different power configurations for Thunderbolt 3 in boot settings.

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March 31, 2019 12:05 pm  
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New firmware out for the RWT2070, F1.3, makes the fans at idle almost silent. This is awesome, I was going to do fan mod mostly due to the idle noise, but now that the firmware update fixes it, no need. Although now I have spare fans...

Btw, it does not affect H2D or default fimware that you have, it takes only a few seconds and only updates the PSU it seems. Doesn't even require a reboot!

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N2070IXEB-8GC#support-dl-firmware

Wow, HUGE difference!

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@nikunj_nik I used a Thermaltake PCI riser in order to provide enough clearance for the 130mm cooling fan. I don't have a photo of the Gigabyte RTX 2070 with the riser cable but you can see in the picture below there's a lot more space under the GPU.

Thanks a lot. I understand now what you mean. Also I really like your setup. Which brand is the white tower as shown in your pic ?

 

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New firmware out for the RWT2070, F1.3, makes the fans at idle almost silent. This is awesome, I was going to do fan mod mostly due to the idle noise, but now that the firmware update fixes it, no need. Although now I have spare fans...

Btw, it does not affect H2D or default fimware that you have, it takes only a few seconds and only updates the PSU it seems. Doesn't even require a reboot!

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N2070IXEB-8GC#support-dl-firmware

Thanks for the headsup and the fans are supersilent now ! Amazing ...

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April 1, 2019 2:14 pm  

@nikunj_nik The ATX case is NZXT H500i Matte White. It has very nice cable management features. All the messes are in the bottom compartment where the PSU resides. Other cables are routed through the back as well.

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April 21, 2019 8:22 am  

Hi I'm new here - I've been using this egpu for almost a month now and I really like it. There were some initial TB3 connectivity issues but I solved that by plugging in the egpu into the poweroutlet last. 

Video: my RTX 2070 gaming box

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