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VisViva
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I happened to purchased few generic USB 3.1 Gen 2 Type-C active cables (1 meter) (it has chip and shielding in connectors ), and it surprised me when I connected it with the Akitio Node and found it works.

Speed test suggests it is slower than the default cable from akitio. (Akitio: 2.487/2.529;  Generic: 1.704/1.728)

I just want to share this information. 

 

 

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DanKnight
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Interesting find. Can you PM me the link to the cable?

ex-AKiTiO Employee as of August 2018.


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 ddqp
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can you share the cable link here, it's interesting.

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DanKnight
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I've confirmed with engineers that USB 3.1 Gen2 Type-C cables will work if it has the e-Mark. However, you will only get up to 20 GBps. We don't recommend using these cables.

ex-AKiTiO Employee as of August 2018.


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VisViva
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Posted by: DanKnight

 

I've confirmed with engineers that USB 3.1 Gen2 Type-C cables will work if it has the e-Mark. However, you will only get up to 20 GBps. We don't recommend using these cables.

   

Thanks a lot for confirming!

The 20 Gbps does make sense, as I see an obvious drop in speed.

Just out of curiosity, Is there a software tool for examining thunderbolt 3 link speed (i.e. how to tell 20Gbps from 40Gbps without benchmark) ?

2015 15" Lenovo Thinkpad P50 (Q M1000M) [6th,4C,H] + GTX 1080 Ti @ 32Gbps-TB3 (AKiTiO Node) + Win10 [build link]  

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VisViva
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Posted by: ddqp

 

can you share the cable link here, it's interesting.

   

The page I brought it from was kinda sketchy, and I am not comfortable promoting it here. (The cable came in plastic film without retail package, and it has no branding or marked certification at all. Plus you will most likely need google translate and freight forwarding)

Since DanKnight has confirmed that it will work with any cable with E-Mark, I would suggest finding one from a confrontable retailer. 

2015 15" Lenovo Thinkpad P50 (Q M1000M) [6th,4C,H] + GTX 1080 Ti @ 32Gbps-TB3 (AKiTiO Node) + Win10 [build link]  

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DanKnight
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Posted by: VisViva

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Just out of curiosity, Is there a software tool for examining thunderbolt 3 link speed (i.e. how to tell 20Gbps from 40Gbps without benchmark) ?

   

I'm not aware of any public tools.

Again, I highly recommend to stay away from these generic USB 3.1 Type-C cables with the Node and even other devices. It could result in serious damage to your device and even kill your computer.

 

e-Marked cables are safer, but research if it's actually e-Mark'd before buying. The e-Mark is there to let the computer know if it's a legit certified cable. There were issues in the past before e-Marks where generic cables were poorly made and completely destroyed the computer when connected. (sort of like a USB killer)

ex-AKiTiO Employee as of August 2018.


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Miah Adib
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@visviva, Did you use on a mac device or windows device. I really want o know because I wanted a egpu,  but was declined since I realized I have a 3.1Usb-c instead of thunderbolt. Now that I know it ACTUALLY WORKS I can buy the cable and the laptop I have has Usb-c 3.1

 

To do: Create my signature with system and expected eGPU configuration information to give context to my posts. I have no builds.

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joevt
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@miah_adib, you need Thunderbolt controller in your laptop to use eGPU. The cable can be USB-C (will be limited to 20 Gbps when connecting to Thunderbolt) or Thunderbolt.

 

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Miah Adib
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@joevt, would I still be able to use it with the egpu

@visviva, did u have a mac device or windows and did it work with the graphics card

To do: Create my signature with system and expected eGPU configuration information to give context to my posts. I have no builds.

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