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Done.

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I tried to flash the unit from my Mac on bootcamp, got stopped at the middle with the following message:

Has anybody tried?

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I have the same issue above with the HP Elite X2 of a colleague, but the device is not even properly recognised by the PC. I cannot update the drivers as described above. The TenLira application has later the exact same message.

I have contacted Wavlink but they do not reply anymore. Have you had any chance solving your issues with them?

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Uhm... no good! Ok, what kind of firmware do you have used? The one on their website? (in few words, the one on my link)

 

They always answered to me, with two different email: [email protected] and [email protected] The more efficient is [email protected]! Keep on mind that they answer to your emails once a day (usually), no more! However, they have been always kind. 

 

For my case, after some trials, they have sent to me a new one! I'm waiting for it, I think it will be delivered to me next week.

 

 

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I did not even get to selecting the firmware file, as it happened to me the first time.

I did try to install the drivers for W10  linked in the post above by @itsage (TB3 driver update procedure), but the name of the file is not the same as the one shown on the link (1.41.654.0) but TBT_WIN10_64_DCH_58.zip. It did not work.

So the SSD is not even recognised by the PC, I think that was ok on Bootcamp at least.

That is what I told Wavlink (I use [email protected]), the mail was acknowledged automatically on the 7th but I still have had no reply, and I had also contacted them after my first trial with Bootcamp, to no avail.

If they do not offer a way of using the unit properly (that means no issues with waking up and sleeping) I think I am entitled to request from them to recover my unit and send me a new one, if I ship it to China to the original retailer it will cost me almost the price of the unit, they have access to cheaper fares than us.

On the YouTube video above, in the comments section, they seem to be ready to do that but when I contact them they do not even reply.

Maybe you can help adding some comments to the video above to have Wavlink react to my, I think, legitimate requests.

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As I understand your enclosure has never worked, right? You received it already with this problem.

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As I understand your enclosure has never worked, right? You received it already with this problem.

Yes it did work but I could not install the Thunderbolt drivers on the PC and neither the PC or the Mac allowed me to update the firmware of the Wavlink, so I still suffer from wake/sleep issues, making it not usable as a main disk (besides the Mac mini's one I means)

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@jangoloti_1 Ok, so it worked but with wake/sleep issue. You tried to update the firmware because this problem but wavlink support given to you the wrong firmware file (the same I used). 

I'm waiting for the new one, I would want to recover the broken one because my OS (Windows) still sees it in the devices manager. I will give a try with Tenlira Software... if it will work then I will tell you.

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Posted by: @pavel_shpilev

Has anybody managed to get Windows 10 installed on M2 drive with this enclosure?

I have Kingston A2000 drive installed, but no matter what I tried, I couldn't make it work. The furthest I got was a freeze after booting into partition created with wintousb.

Installing bootcamp on this drive freezes on "downloading support software" stage.

I also tried installing OSX on it and creating bootcamp partition in that external OSX. That worked up to the point where Windows installer complained about missing drivers.

I have two 15" 2018 MBPs, both running Catalina. Same result on both machines.

On a different note, both the enclosure and Kingston A2000 are rated for 2000+ MB/s read/write speeds. But I only get 1370MB/s on write and 1750Mb/s on read. Judging from the post above, this seems to be a problem with the drive, not the enclosure, right?

It took me some tinkering but I got it to boot Windows 10 and run very smoothly! My first attempts were with a Samsung 950Pro 512GB, that didn't work at all, I ended up using an Intel 660P 512GB. I tried multiple methods with the Samsung (installed OSX on the 950Pro and bootcamp from there -> error, wintousb on the 950Pro -> error, bootable Windows 10 usb stick and install on the 950Pro -> error). Then I tried the wintousb method with the 660P and it just worked 🙂 Speeds are very close to the listed speeds by Intel. Soon I'll try with the SX8200, that should be quicker. All on a 2018 15" Macbook Pro using the UTE02.

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Today I received my new Wavlink TB3 enclosure from Wavlink support. I must say that the support from wavlink worked very well for me. They answered every single email that I sent and I never felt myself unsupported. The timing was good as well even if the issue happened during the holiday! This was amazing from my point of view! Really!

Unfortunately my "old" enclosure is not recoverable... :o( They didn't want it back.

The performance are the same between them, I think the difference should be even the SSD hardware quality (in my case ADATA). 

So keep attention about the firmware update! You need to be sure that you are using the correct one for the right enclosure, if you are not sure about it, please contact [email protected] or [email protected] they will answer to you the same day!

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They still have not replied to me...

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@jefniro Thank you for the update. I had a chat with Thunderbolt vendors about NVMe performance in m.2 TB3 enclosures such as this Wavlink UTE02. They are as stumped as we are regarding max throughput. The majority of NVMe drives would not exceed 1,6XX MB/s. There are some that reach full Thunderbolt 3 bandwidth. They inquired Intel about this concern too but so far there’s no clear answers.

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@itsage it's a mistery! 😀 

 

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I tested the SX8200 pro, it doesn't fit that well in the UTE02, it bends quite a lot, but if you push the heatsink on it sits firmly 🙂

The benchmark was pretty good 🙂 (sorry for the crappy "screenshot"

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Hello! These are mine, same disk (SX8200 PRO 1TB), same enclosure (Wavlink UTE02):

 

Connected via CalDigit ts3plus:

 

ATTO3

 

Connected directly to the TB3 left port:

ATTO2

 

This is my second enclosure, values are the same. 

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Posted by: @jefniro

Today I received my new Wavlink TB3 enclosure from Wavlink support. I must say that the support from wavlink worked very well for me. They answered every single email that I sent and I never felt myself unsupported. The timing was good as well even if the issue happened during the holiday! This was amazing from my point of view! Really!

Unfortunately my "old" enclosure is not recoverable... :o( They didn't want it back.

The performance are the same between them, I think the difference should be even the SSD hardware quality (in my case ADATA). 

So keep attention about the firmware update! You need to be sure that you are using the correct one for the right enclosure, if you are not sure about it, please contact [email protected] or [email protected] they will answer to you the same day!

I have finally managed to flash the firmware of the UTE02 as explained on their Youtube video, but it has not been with the help of Wavlink customer support: They still have not replied.

Now the SSD is not ejected when the Mac mini goes to sleep. 

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@jangoloti_1

Cool!! I'm happy for you.

 

How did you do? Maybe can help someone else in your same situation!

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Posted by: @itsage

@jefniro Thank you for the update. I had a chat with Thunderbolt vendors about NVMe performance in m.2 TB3 enclosures such as this Wavlink UTE02. They are as stumped as we are regarding max throughput. The majority of NVMe drives would not exceed 1,6XX MB/s. There are some that reach full Thunderbolt 3 bandwidth. They inquired Intel about this concern too but so far there's no clear answers.

Grasping at straws, but could SSD physical sector size make a difference (512 vs 4k)?

Intel provides a way to change it so, for it’s SSDs: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000006392/memory-and-storage.html

Perhaps testing SSDs and making note of sector sizes may potentially narrow down the bandwidth issue.

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@jangoloti_1

Cool!! I'm happy for you.

 

How did you do? Maybe can help someone else in your same situation!

It just worked with a different HP Elite X2. This unit recognised the UTE02 from the beginning and everything worked as the video shows. I do not know the reasons: Different Windows version? They both came from the same pool but being managed by a couple of IT technicians they may have updated something in the meantime.

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@jefniro Thank you for the update. I had a chat with Thunderbolt vendors about NVMe performance in m.2 TB3 enclosures such as this Wavlink UTE02. They are as stumped as we are regarding max throughput. The majority of NVMe drives would not exceed 1,6XX MB/s. There are some that reach full Thunderbolt 3 bandwidth. They inquired Intel about this concern too but so far there's no clear answers.

Grasping at straws, but could SSD physical sector size make a difference (512 vs 4k)?

Intel provides a way to change it so, for it’s SSDs: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000006392/memory-and-storage.html

Perhaps testing SSDs and making note of sector sizes may potentially narrow down the bandwidth issue.

I checked mine:

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Posted by: @jangoloti_1

I got finally the Sandisk Extreme NVMe in 500 GB format, the 1 and  2TB options are still too expensive.

My speeds are below, 2187 and 2517 MB/s.

I have read on a review of the SSD that this unit is more appropriate for big files, not so much for random access for general use. The issue reported by @itsage where he only found close-to-TB3 speeds with this drive may invalidate that assumption, which was probably based on tests performed on a motherboard PCIe slot.

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The speeds after the update have reduced a bit though, see above for the old speeds, below for the new ones.

Probably there is no real impact but it is interesting to know.

I was planning to get a bigger SSD for the UTE02, but knowing the above, and the fact that I have bought a QNAP QGD-1600P NAS where I will install next week a 10 GbE card plus a couple of 1 TB SATA M.2 drives I could be set for a while.

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One question to all: the unit gets quite warm, is it useful to add some thermal pads between the SSD and the radiator?

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I don't think that it needs to add some kind of thermal pad. The toolbox for my ADATA SSD shows 42° celsius and the maximum allowed has been set to 70° celsius.

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FYI.  They're on sale for $69.99 again at Newegg until 2/7.

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Well that's pretty funny that the sale ended for $69.99 on Newegg.  It was immediately succeeded with another sale for $66.99. 😯 

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@omardesu If we all wait long enough, it may go down to $49.99! I think sub $70 for this Thunderbolt 3 NVMe M.2 adapter is well worth it. I also appreciate the responsiveness of their support in providing a firmware update.

 

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@itsage So boycott until it goes down to $49.99 (i.e. no demand)?  I can be on board with that!  Worst case, if it goes to a higher price than $69.99, Amazon has it for $76.99...

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With an NVME drive, I assume this enclosure is completely non-functional over USB? Or does it work, just at a lower speed?

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I don't think that it needs to add some kind of thermal pad. The toolbox for my ADATA SSD shows 42° celsius and the maximum allowed has been set to 70° celsius.

It certainly gets warmer than 42 degrees in my case, pun intended.

Another question: Has anybody tried a WD Blue NVMe in this enclosure?

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With an NVME drive, I assume this enclosure is completely non-functional over USB? Or does it work, just at a lower speed?

I cannot test this because all my USB-C ports are Thunderbolt but I think it will not. And I do not see the interest really when the equivalent enclosure in USB 3.1 Gen 2 is less than EUR/USD 30.

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