16 inch MacBook Pro with eGPU
It looks quite interesting, spec-wise. 🙂
Now I am wondering -- what are your guesses about when Thunderbolt 4 will arive?
(will it be 80 Gbit/s? in 2020? will it make much of a difference for eGPUs?)
Also wondering: will all 4 USB/TB ports be fully usable when running an eGPU?
(my Late 2016 MacBook Pro 15" allows me to use my eGPU on a port on the right side + one port on the left for USB, but if I plug an additional one directly on the notebook it crashes; probably internal bus bandwith limitations; will the new one have enough bandwidth for full usage incl. an eGPU? would be nice to use more peripherals)
4 eGPUs are supported and all 4 ports can work simultaneously already. Not sure why it crashes for you.
USB4 (includes Thunderbolt 3) is next and Thunderbolt 4 is not on the horizon as of now. TB4 would likely be based on PCIe 4.0, which is still not the prevalent standard, especially on notebooks.
Good to know that all USB ports + eGPU are working on newer models already!
To work around Error 12 in Windows I needed to deactivate the dGPU and a couple of other devices, which may cause the crashing. For stable USB I also deactivate WiFi and Bluetooth, which improves the USB connections.
Would be great to have everything active and running flawlessly along with an eGPU. But that seems likely if already the case on today's models.
Guess TB4 would be nice to have once it's out. But so far there is no major need for it as TB3 eGPU performance is already quite stable and good.
@reinhard1004 I think it's more software related than hardware on those issues. I have the same 2016 15" MacBook Pro and that's a tradeoff to make use of the eGPU in Windows Boot Camp. The latest MBPs have not changed the situation much because Apple doesn't care about how Windows works on its systems. The more troubles there are the better macOS appears. Given the quality of recent macOS releases, this may actually be their strategy. 😀
I was speaking for macOS - and it applies to the 2016 model too [less eGPUs were a High Sierra software limit]. Windows is complicated and experience varies.
Dude, you’ve had 6 months of use out of that, I wouldn’t stress it, still a great machine.
2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar
GTX1060 + AKiTiO Thunder3 + Win10
GTX1070 + Sonnet Breakaway Box + Win10
GTX1070 + Razer Core V1 + Win10
Vega 56 + Razer Core V1 + macOS + Win10
Vega 56 + Mantiz Venus + macOS + W10
very true mate
However, after spent much recently on upgrading my gears like eGPU, NAS etc, don't really want to scrap 60% of value for just 6 month of use, plus mainly I'm using MBP with eGPU connect to external screens, and external keyboard, and don't use much of MBP speaker or Mic (almost nil).
I wonder if there will be another Catalina build prior to the shipments of these machines rolling out or if they are going to come with the .1 version currently out. I mean, it has a new GPU (I'm sure we'll see the 5300 soon enough too).
@ttamnogard Likely 10.15.1 with a special build number. AMDRadeonX6000HWServices.kext contains a few Navi PCI IDs so there will be more Navi dGPUs in new Macs.
### AMDRadeonX6000HWServices.kext * pci device: 7310 - Navi 10 * pci device: 7312 - unknown device * pci device: 7318 - unknown device * pci device: 7319 - unknown device * pci device: 731a - unknown device * pci device: 731b - unknown device * pci device: 731f - Navi 10 [Radeon RX 5700 / 5700 XT] * pci device: 7340 - Navi 14 [Radeon RX 5500 / 5500M] * pci device: 7341 - unknown device * pci device: 7343 - unknown device * pci device: 7347 - unknown device * pci device: 7360 - unknown device