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GPU_Cat
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Posted by: @mac_editor

@gpu_cat Gotcha. Gigabyte is selling their 5700 reference model for USD 329. Their OC model is USD 359 (worth it IMO).

@itsage I believe you have the 5700 reference card right? Have you tried flashing it with a 5700 XT BIOS?

Thanks! I wasn’t sure if it was ok to get into pricing here, but I appreciate your opinion. The prices are very confusing. Here is what I’ve seen lately:

1) Reference 5700 as low as $299-$309 with rebate (Gigabyte, ASUS).

2) 5700 with some OC and dual fans are $359 (Gigabyte, Sapphire).

3) 5700 XT reference as low as $359 (ASUS, PowerColor). Actually the PowerColor is not a reference design, it has a dual fan design for $359, but I’m a little hesitant given some folks experiences here.

Given those price points would you still recommend a 5700 with better cooling and small OC (option 2)?

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@gpu_cat

Yes that is indeed a confusing situation. I think one would choose 2 over 3 if noise matters most. The Gigabyte OC model is worth it over its own reference model, but throwing in a reference XT at the same price changes the game. If noise is not a factor, just get whatever you are comfortable with. 1 and 3 both are excellent value at their price points. If you were to ask my personal opinion - I'd just wait for a bit/increase my budget, and get a non-reference XT (because noise matters to me) or consider looking at the used market :p

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Actually the PowerColor is not a reference design, it has a dual fan design for $359, but I’m a little hesitant given some folks experiences here.

That's a good deal. Yes we aren't sure about the reliability but PowerColor support is generally quite good.

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@gpu_cat

Yes that is indeed a confusing situation. I think one would choose 2 over 3 if noise matters most. The Gigabyte OC model is worth it over its own reference model, but throwing in a reference XT at the same price changes the game. If noise is not a factor, just get whatever you are comfortable with. 1 and 3 both are excellent value at their price points. If you were to ask my personal opinion - I'd just wait for a bit/increase my budget, and get a non-reference XT (because noise matters to me) or consider looking at the used market :p

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Actually the PowerColor is not a reference design, it has a dual fan design for $359, but I’m a little hesitant given some folks experiences here.

That's a good deal. Yes we aren't sure about the reliability but PowerColor support is generally quite good.

Thank you for your insight, I appreciate it. Last question: how noisy are the reference cards versus the fans in the Razer Core X Chroma? I’m not planning to switch power supplies so if the Core X alone is louder than a reference card I may just go reference, but if the reference cards are going to be the loudest part I’ll probably go non-reference.

Thanks!

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@gpu_cat

At load the reference card will be the loudest. I don't know how loud the Core X gets, but it will be lower than a reference GPU.

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@gpu_cat

At load the reference card will be the loudest. I don't know how loud the Core X gets, but it will be lower than a reference GPU.

Thanks! That is very helpful. I’ll look for a non-reference card then. I don’t need silence but I think I’ll appreciate a quieter card. 

FYI - I think this is the model of the PowerColor 5700XT I’ve seen on sale if you know anything about it: https://www.powercolor.com/product?id=1565842787

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@mac_editor

Thanks for the info that the 5700XT will work in Windows with 19.11.1.  I've installed the latest drivers.    What do you mean by "clean the system"?  I am up for trying anything at this point, but would really like to avoid having to reinstall Bootcamp/Win10.....

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@itsage I believe you have the 5700 reference card right? Have you tried flashing it with a 5700 XT BIOS?

Yes I have a reference RX 5700 card. I tried flashing the firmware when these cards first came out. ATIFlash was giving me error about reading the ROM so I never manage to flash the XT firmware on the RX 5700 card. I will try again soon to see if that has changed.

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@mac_editor

Great link, thank you!

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I made plenty of money this year with the Radeon VII eGPU that I purchased to help my heavy workload. I knew the sleep bug would never be fixed so to me this was a temporary solution until a new GPU came along that had proper eGPU support.

I was lucky today to find a 5700 XT 50th Anniversary Edition for the same price as a used regular flavour version. It's quieter than the Radeon VII, a very good all round performance and sleep functions normal, although on the first try the GPU was having trouble waking the display.

I have now ran it through some tests. For some reason my Geekbench Metal score is 11,000 points higher than the score listed on Geekbench's charts.

 

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What sleep bug? Is it occuring with RX580? I also see Apple is selling some eGPUs on their shop. What are the conditions for teh sleep bug to appear?

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Had someone ran some test on the recently released macOS 10.15.2 beta 1 ? If so, can we expect any noticeable performance improvements on Navi drivers?

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@precision01 yes! I can confirm it! Better results with the new beta. All the benchmark results are better than before. Here my Unigine Valley (previous result 67.6 FPS):

 

Schermata 2019 11 11 alle 22.19.36

 

And Geekbench (previous result 35874 - Geekbench 10.15.1):

 

Schermata 2019 11 11 alle 22.25.33

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Hi, I’ve been following this thread for 3 months. I haven’t bought a GPU yet but have been deciding between Power Colour’s Red Devil or the Sapphire Nitro +. Your comments of how the Core X needs to be rebooted every time the computer is rebooted with the Sapphire concerns me as to why I would choose the Sapphire over the the Red Devil. Knowing what you now know, would you recommend the Sapphire over the Devil?

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Only because of the trixx software that you can gain some fps lower the resolution. About the the switch that I have to turn on everytime I boot, maybe it’s a bug on my windows and I need to reinstall, this I want to avoid right now. I test another same card and I experience the same problem. The dragon is better looking card with the rub lights inside the fan. With the nitro though I get better score with oc. I hope that helps. 

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@evangelos_vasilaropoulos

Thanks for the quick response! I also saw in earlier posts that the Trixx software also had some incompatibilities with your setup, has it improved since late October with additional updates?

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@evangelos_vasilaropoulos

Hi, I’ve been following this thread for 3 months. I haven’t bought a GPU yet but have been deciding between Power Colour’s Red Devil or the Sapphire Nitro +. Your comments of how the Core X needs to be rebooted every time the computer is rebooted with the Sapphire concerns me as to why I would choose the Sapphire over the the Red Devil. Knowing what you now know, would you recommend the Sapphire over the Devil?

Hey guys - me too - but I'm not sure. Should I go with a RX5700XT or Radeon VII. Egpu will be used only for FCP / Resolve (no Gaming/Bootcamp)
My Setup: Mac Pro D500 trashcan with 2 displays (Apple Thunderbolt and NEC Multisync via DVI/TB adapter)

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precision01
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@jefniro

Interesting. I've also run some testes and there's no difference for me. In fact, there's something I find very odd here: Why would my OpenCL Score be about half of yours? You are getting 60's and I'm getting 30's.

Do you have any idea about what is happening?

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@precision01 I'm surprised too, I need to say... this is why I made it two times! 🙂 I really don't know why but this evening I will put online the results with details.

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