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Phoenix2063
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Can someone help evaluate these benchmark scores as they seem low? No other devices were connected to the eGPU.

Gigabyte 5700XT

Mantiz MZ-02

2018 MacBook Pro 13inch

2.3GHZ i5 with 8GB 2133mhz ram c

Heaven: have I run this at the right settings?

Screenshot 2019 11 28 at 21.35.35

Geekbench:

Screenshot 2019 11 28 at 21.37.17

Mantiz Venus MZ-02
- Gigabyte AMD RX 5700 XT


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User99999
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Sorry! Just wondering if you could explain in simple steps on how to do this kext injection to allow overclocking on real Mac? Did not know its actually possible on a Mac to overclock.  Happy with links to read up if you are not able to post steps here. 

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I am using a i7 Quadcore MacMini 16GB Ram, 1TB SSD Sonnet 550 with RX470 8GB.

The Mini is limited to 10.13.6. I am using the pw-script in order to get this setup to work.

I think if I had chosen a RX580 I did not have to use the script at all, because it will be supported. Is that true?

If I use that pw-script  is it possible tu use later gfx-cards with later drivers than the 10.13.6 supports?

It seems that this should be possible...can someone confirm this please?

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Mini i5
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@phoenix2063

Your Geekbench Open CL score pretty much matches the other RX 5700 XT scores charted on Geekbench's site.

Your score in the Unigine Heaven Open GL test looks fine as well.

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@user99999

Could you please create an IOReg Dump for me using IOJones while your eGPU is connected? I will try building an injector kext for you.

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Is anyone running a PowerColor Red Dragon 5700 XT in a Sonnet eGFX 350W eGPU?

Any power related issues to be aware of? Or am I absolutely going to have to upgrade the PSU to a Corsair SF600 or 750?

Also, how is noise with this config?

Thanks.

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Mac mini 2018, i7 3.2GHz 6c, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD, 10GbE, Sonnet eGFX 350W (Noctua NF-A12x25 ULN) + PowerColor RX 5700 XT 8GB, TEKQ Rapide TB3 1TB SSD, macOS Catalina, Win10 Pro
Mac Pro 2010, X5690 3.46GHz 6c, 64GB RAM, Amfeltec 3x XP941 512GB, Sapphire Pulse RX 580 8GB, Intel X540-T1 10GbE, Allegro Pro USB 3.0, AC/BT 4.2, macOS Mojave


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I just installed MacOS 10.15.2, drivers are more stable now and benchmark results are the same that I had with the version 10.15.1 (67.6)

Schermata 2019 12 11 alle 20.56.19

2016 13" MacBook Pro + RX 5700 XT @ 32Gbps-TB3 (AKiTiO Node) + Win10 1903


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Squuiid
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Is anyone running a PowerColor Red Dragon 5700 XT in a Sonnet eGFX 350W eGPU?

Any power related issues to be aware of? Or am I absolutely going to have to upgrade the PSU to a Corsair SF600 or 750?

Also, how is noise with this config?

Thanks.

Going to answer my own question in case it helps others... 😀 

I went ahead with this and it worked out great. My $199 Sonnet eGFX 350W now runs a PowerColor Red Dragon RX 5700 XT and it is absolutely silent with the Noctua NF-A12x25 ULN fan mod. The Akasa PSU it comes with is totally silent too and the GPU has a 0dB mode. Could not be happier.

Oh, and I have stress tested the hell out of this thing. When the GPU has the VBIOS switch set to 'Silent mode' rather than 'OC mode' the 350W PSU handles it without a problem (as predicted by itsage). I had an NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1080 FE previously and the 5700 XT actually destroys it.
Have not tried 'OC mode' and probably won't bother.

Mac mini 2018, i7 3.2GHz 6c, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD, 10GbE, Sonnet eGFX 350W (Noctua NF-A12x25 ULN) + PowerColor RX 5700 XT 8GB, TEKQ Rapide TB3 1TB SSD, macOS Catalina, Win10 Pro
Mac Pro 2010, X5690 3.46GHz 6c, 64GB RAM, Amfeltec 3x XP941 512GB, Sapphire Pulse RX 580 8GB, Intel X540-T1 10GbE, Allegro Pro USB 3.0, AC/BT 4.2, macOS Mojave


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I’m thinking about upgrading current RX580 to 5700/5700xt for the upcoming Christmas vacation. Below is the breakdown of my system:

2014 MBP 15.4” 

Sonnet 350W with necessary TB3 to TB2 connectors and cables

Sapphire RX580

Mojave + Win 10 1803

 

The system did not give me any hard time even during Bootcamp windows setup. It just worked. I didn’t encounter any error 12.

However, on Sonnet’s website it clearly says at least Win 10 1809 build is needed to 5700 series. Has anyone tried with 1803 build with the vga card? 

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Squuiid
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Posted by: @naticom

I’m thinking about upgrading current RX580 to 5700/5700xt for the upcoming Christmas vacation. Below is the breakdown of my system:

2014 MBP 15.4” 

Sonnet 350W with necessary TB3 to TB2 connectors and cables

Sapphire RX580

Mojave + Win 10 1803

 

The system did not give me any hard time even during Bootcamp windows setup. It just worked. I didn’t encounter any error 12.

However, on Sonnet’s website it clearly says at least Win 10 1809 build is needed to 5700 series. Has anyone tried with 1803 build with the vga card? 

You do know that 1803 is no longer supported by Microsoft as of November 12, 2019, and consequently no longer gets security updates? Windows without security updates is quite the risk. If you go RX 5700 then I'd definitely stick with 1809 until it goes end of support in May 2020. Then we'll have to see if Microsoft/AMD have fixed code 12.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet

Mac mini 2018, i7 3.2GHz 6c, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD, 10GbE, Sonnet eGFX 350W (Noctua NF-A12x25 ULN) + PowerColor RX 5700 XT 8GB, TEKQ Rapide TB3 1TB SSD, macOS Catalina, Win10 Pro
Mac Pro 2010, X5690 3.46GHz 6c, 64GB RAM, Amfeltec 3x XP941 512GB, Sapphire Pulse RX 580 8GB, Intel X540-T1 10GbE, Allegro Pro USB 3.0, AC/BT 4.2, macOS Mojave


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Thanks for replying to my post. I don't really care if 1803 is end of support or not as I only use Win 10 for gaming. All my personal info, banking...etc are done on my Mac OS.
 
So I picked up a 5700 today. It went way out of my surprise that I could just plug it in and it just worked on my Win 10 1803 just like my RX 580. The only thing I had to do is to uninstall the older adrenaline driver and install the latest one.
 
I did run some Valley benchmark under Win 10 but the results are perplexing. From my attached results you can see that there's no gain switching from RX580 to RX5700 on Valley benchmark @ 1080p, but @4K there's 75% performance boost.
 
I also verified the results in Rise of the Tomb Raider. The performance is undoubtedly better under 1080p so I think Valley has some problems.
 
Last question that I would like to ask is that is there anything I have to know before upgrading my MacOS from Mojave to Catalina? My current setup is quite stable and is working really well and I don't want Catalina to break anything. If I don't want to use the card under MacOS can I deactivate both Purge Wrangler and Purge nVidia?
 
 
 
 
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Posted by: @naticom

I’m thinking about upgrading current RX580 to 5700/5700xt for the upcoming Christmas vacation. Below is the breakdown of my system:

2014 MBP 15.4” 

Sonnet 350W with necessary TB3 to TB2 connectors and cables

Sapphire RX580

Mojave + Win 10 1803

 

The system did not give me any hard time even during Bootcamp windows setup. It just worked. I didn’t encounter any error 12.

However, on Sonnet’s website it clearly says at least Win 10 1809 build is needed to 5700 series. Has anyone tried with 1803 build with the vga card? 

You do know that 1803 is no longer supported by Microsoft as of November 12, 2019, and consequently no longer gets security updates? Windows without security updates is quite the risk. If you go RX 5700 then I'd definitely stick with 1809 until it goes end of support in May 2020. Then we'll have to see if Microsoft/AMD have fixed code 12.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet

 

 

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Mini i5
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I wouldn’t update to 10.15.2.

Some members here are reporting issues with eGPU support after updating. They seem quite annoyed.

Others say there are no performance gains compared to Mojave and 10.15.1.

I haven’t seen any pro-10.15.2 posts yet. 

2018 Mac Mini i5 / 6-core 3.0-4.1 Ghz / 32GB / 256GB / Intel UHD 630 / PowerColor Gaming Station / PowerColor dual-fan RX5700 XT / Mac OS 10.15.1 Catalina / LG 27" 4K display


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Eightarmedpet
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Hows everyone finding their Navi cards?

I'm tempted to give another a go after (I assume) my 5700xt failed, but wondering with the additional issues Window updates are throwing up if its wiser to switch back to Nvidia and just deal with never gaming in macOS (which is sub optimal anyway).

RTX2060 S vs RX 5700XT?

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar
GTX1060 + AKiTiO Thunder3 + Win10
GTX1070 + Sonnet Breakaway Box + Win10
GTX1070 + Razer Core V1 + Win10
Vega 56 + Razer Core V1 + macOS + Win10
Vega 56 + Mantiz Venus + macOS + W10

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naticom
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Still torn at the thought of upgrading from Mojave to Catalina.

My current Bootcamp is really working great and I’ve seen some posts on the forum that Catalina broke their Bootcamp. I really don’t have time playing with the installation of Windows as I just got a newborn to take care of. 

Can anyone tell me usually what happens to Bootcamp Windows after a major Mac OS upgrade?

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jefniro
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@naticom

Everything ok here, Catalina 10.15.3 (new beta some day ago). But... 32bit apps doesn't work anymore, my MBP is the 13" with Touchbar late 2016 I boot Windows Bootcamp installed locally but with an external USB stick..

 

I have an updated file image of my MBP (made by Macrium free) for ev. rollback. Keep attention only to the BIOS...

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Mini i5
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@naticom

Apple can’t even tell you what will happen to your eGPU in Bootcamp post-upgrade, major or seemingly minor. Or won’t. Apple is keeping their hand on that light switch. 😂

If your current Bootcamp is working really great - you are already a deity walking amongst common people. 😉

I don’t know why I would want anything to change. 😀

2018 Mac Mini i5 / 6-core 3.0-4.1 Ghz / 32GB / 256GB / Intel UHD 630 / PowerColor Gaming Station / PowerColor dual-fan RX5700 XT / Mac OS 10.15.1 Catalina / LG 27" 4K display


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The 50th Anniversary Edition is just out of stock 😔

But I found the Radeon Pro W5700 is available...so😉

 

The only question is when Catalina could support it?

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Mini i5
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@sevenup

Huh...you don't want to wait a few days? 😦 So you can tech-lust after the Navi 2.0, aka "Big Navi" cards? Like the rest of your friends here at eGPU.io? 

Don't miss out. Fun is fun! 😆

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@sevenup

Huh...you don't want to wait a few days? 😦 So you can tech-lust after the Navi 2.0, aka "Big Navi" cards? Like the rest of your friends here at eGPU.io? 

Don't miss out. Fun is fun! 😆

Hehe, I am waiting the Blackmagic Pro2 upgraded to 7nm Navi card.

A W5700 is just a try for my first egpu 😆 

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tsakal
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happy new year

for the razer core x which 5700 xt aib card would you recommend for silent operation of course a second oc bios would be a plus? I am considering the nitro+ or red devil, although I like more the normal power color one mentioned in one of the comments above.

 

A. 2.7 GHz I7 4 Cores, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2018 TB3 , EGPU Razer Core X, Nitro+ RX5700 xt 8Gb, LG 32UK550
Mac OS Catalina 10.15.2, Ext SSD Windows 10 1903 V1 .295

B. 2.7 GHz I7 4 Cores, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2018 TB3 , EGPU Gigabyte Gaming Box RX580 8Gb, Mac OS Catalina 10.15.2, Ext SSD Windows 10 1803

C. 3.1 GHz I7, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2015 TB2 , EGPU Gigabyte Gaming Box RX580 8Gb


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@tsakal

Both the Nitro+ and Red Devil are solid choices. I personally went with the Red Dragon, which can be a bit loud at load but I liked the aesthetic.

And happy new year!

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tsakal
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@mac_editor @itsage @jefniro

Thank you 

I have the option to get the nitro special edition for the same price as the standard one do you think it makes sense to got for it or shall I stick to the standard one. I have not found any reviews of it anywhere so I am not sure if noise levels are different from the standard one. 

Finally, could you play racing games like Forza , Dirt Rally etc 4k at 60 fps wiht these cards at ok settings ? Or we are not there yet and I am asking too much?  

sorry for my ignorance but I am really bad about gaming I use the setup primarily for work. The reason I ask is as I can not test gaming at work and I am considering whether it makes sense to upgrade to a 32" 4k monitor for home or stick with my wide 2560 x 1080 29" monitor. 

Best

 

 

A. 2.7 GHz I7 4 Cores, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2018 TB3 , EGPU Razer Core X, Nitro+ RX5700 xt 8Gb, LG 32UK550
Mac OS Catalina 10.15.2, Ext SSD Windows 10 1903 V1 .295

B. 2.7 GHz I7 4 Cores, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2018 TB3 , EGPU Gigabyte Gaming Box RX580 8Gb, Mac OS Catalina 10.15.2, Ext SSD Windows 10 1803

C. 3.1 GHz I7, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2015 TB2 , EGPU Gigabyte Gaming Box RX580 8Gb


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igerard
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Hi

What are the advantage of a 5700 over a Vega 64, excepted obviously power consumption ?

I get similar score with my Vega 64 under th 10.15.3 beta

Best wishes for the new year 

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It appears that video decoding/encoding is faster on the Vega 64 than 5700. 
But if you do video there’s no need to put that much of weight into it. 

Present: 2012 Mac mini + PowerColor RX 56 Vega Nano @10Gbps-TB1 +
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@tsakal I think that at the same price, if you have enough power on your enclosure the best choice is Vega64.  The Nitro+ series is always a solid product!

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tsakal
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@jefniro

Thank you I am using a razer core x, but the prices are similar fir a Vega 64 and 5700xt. If I could get a Radeon vii for the same money I would seriously think of it. My thinking is that Navi is more future proof than Vega for Mac OS. Is my thinking wrong?

A. 2.7 GHz I7 4 Cores, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2018 TB3 , EGPU Razer Core X, Nitro+ RX5700 xt 8Gb, LG 32UK550
Mac OS Catalina 10.15.2, Ext SSD Windows 10 1903 V1 .295

B. 2.7 GHz I7 4 Cores, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2018 TB3 , EGPU Gigabyte Gaming Box RX580 8Gb, Mac OS Catalina 10.15.2, Ext SSD Windows 10 1803

C. 3.1 GHz I7, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2015 TB2 , EGPU Gigabyte Gaming Box RX580 8Gb


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jefniro
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@tsakal

The price of the Radeon VII is too high in this moment.. I don't know if it worths.. about MacOS, it's a good question. I don't know the future strategies of Apple but at the moment the most powerful egpu that they sell is a Blackmagic with Vega56:

 

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/HMQT2VC/A/blackmagic-egpu-pro?fnode=2e8cc02aae0a063544bbf8c2caf268a55530bafe30a41d2ba423d6bbabaae35f3bce68f1dcb6765c9c7e6178b0d37986c4f1143ae399835fbfb6b5eca99d535e89ab625e619bd4538be17455d34f56c79de20ffc78385d989022ce25a218b20c

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