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itsage
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Posted by: Eightarmedpet

@itsage how comes you went for the 5700 over the XT? Looking forward to a build guide, will be interesting to hear how these new cards and new windows builds change things (again).

I'd like to see whether flashing the 50th Anniversary Edition BIOS onto the base RX 5700 is a possibility. That would make it an even better value!

@jefniro The RX Vega 64 Liquid-Cooled version is the best imo. It's a standard 2-slot size. The radiator can be mounted inside several eGPU enclosures such as AKiTiO Node, Sonnet Breakaway Box, and Razer Core X. I do wish AMD had made the Anniversary Edition a Liquid-Cooled card instead of a gold trim.

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@wimpzilla totally understand you preferring non blower, if all things were equal I would too but as eGPU enclosures have less well designed air flow and ventilation than most PC cases I actually think a blower style card is the best option here, or I may be trying to rationalise not waiting and buying a founders edition...

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Posted by: itsage

@jefniro The RX Vega 64 Liquid-Cooled version is the best imo. It's a standard 2-slot size. The radiator can be mounted inside several eGPU enclosures such as AKiTiO Node, Sonnet Breakaway Box, and Razer Core X. I do wish AMD had made the Anniversary Edition a Liquid-Cooled card instead of a gold trim.

@itsage I know, but it means more money to spend... 😉

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Hi I'm relatively new to eGPUs,

Roughly how long do you all think it will take for AMD to release official Mac drivers or for the eGPU community to find a way to get the RX 5700 series working on Mac?

Thank you

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AMD sent a linux driver update if i believe phoronix, so the base unix drivers are there in a beta stage i suppose.

About the custom cards, you can read about here: https://www.techpowerup.com/257212/custom-radeon-rx-5700-series-only-by-mid-august-amd

The AMD PR spokesmen also "damage control" a bit, acknowledging that the cooling design is garbage.
Still it doesn't stopped AMD sales team to allow the 5700xt to be sold for 450euro.

@Eightarmedpet
If the blower used by AMD was even decent, i would be the 1st to advise you to get a card.
The gaming performances are decent for being an updated GCN architecture, so it should become even better, as usual, when AMD take time to develop the drivers.
My only concern is about the compute performances, being a gpu dedicated to console gaming, aimed to have a fast paced instruction output instead than a heavy compute ability.
Something different from Vega that prioritize compute performances over fast paced gaming scenarios, really dunno.

 @jefniro
The main difference between the cards is the TDP or the peak power consumption allowed.
Then there is a 16 texture unit/4 compute unit difference, being the dies that didn't passed the xt version validation.
The 4 CU difference can be easily compensated by gpu frequency,  that's why AMD locked down the 5700 clocks.

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Posted by: vaegpu

Hi I'm relatively new to eGPUs,

Roughly how long do you all think it will take for AMD to release official Mac drivers or for the eGPU community to find a way to get the RX 5700 series working on Mac?

Thank you

This is something for I'd love to hear your educated guesses. Also, from where has initial hints for support first appeared (let's say in Radeon VII case)? There is going on at the moment 10.14.6 betas and 10.15 Catalina betas.

Second Catalina beta has apparently revealed 8 unknown AMD cards. Of course, all these hints could be related to 2019 Mac Pro's custom MPX-cards, or hypothetical 16-inch MacBook Pro – but as the article speculates: maybe intentionally misnamed "Vega" RX 5700 cards.

I guess I'll stick with the plan to buy RX 580 but I'd love to have the shiniest one 😉

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Apple has never been in a hurry to provide drivers for newly released graphics cards. Most recent AMD big launches are:

  • Polaris 10 [RX 480] released on June 29th, 2016 - working drivers on September 21st, 2016
  • Vega 10 [RX Vega] released on August 17th, 2017 - working drivers on September 25th, 2017
  • Vega 20 [Radeon VII] released on February 7th, 2019 - working drivers on March 27th, 2017
  • Navi 10 [RX 5700] released on July 7th, 2019 - working drivers yet to be determined

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Vega has only been available in iMacs and MacBook Pros since Nov 2018.  It seems unlikely they're in a hurry to refresh based on a low-volume unproven GPU.  That said, we won't see Navi drivers until we hear of a new Mac with a Navi GPU embedded inside.  And given the power-efficiency of Navi, it would most logically appear in the new MBP16 or a similarly refreshed SKU  - like some fancy new iMac.  (And before someone points out the Radeon VII, let me just point out that its GPU, the Vega 20, is on Apple's informal roadmap)

So my guess is Navi probably won't be supported until winter of 2019 with macOS 10.15.2 -  but more likely spring of 2020 with macOS 10.5.3.

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Posted by: kushNYC

So my guess is Navi probably won't be supported until winter of 2019 with macOS 10.15.2 -  but more likely spring of 2020 with macOS 10.5.3.

Eheheheh...everybody hope they will release the drivers before! Maybe in the next months they will upgrade the Apple eGPU enclosure with Navi... 😉  Who knows?

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For those worried about the thermals and noise of the RX 5700 and RX 5700 XT,  Gamers Nexus just posted on how to fix them for cheap.

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