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Monaldinio
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Will we see new hardware? New iMacs? Not the pro one... 

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@monaldinio

I imagine at some point yes, but maybe updated (and even more expensive) BlackMagic eGPUs...

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Great to hear... I had to RMA my Nitro+ due to power issues. I'm contemplating updating to the Chroma Core X because, well, RGB.

I was on the fence about going to the asus strix 5700 xt as the word on the street is the PCB and build quality of this card is the best in the game.

@maximilian_aussprung

you need to roll back to .3 build then update to .295... any build after 295 does NOT work regardless of what you try. It's a windows issue. 

Look for the thread about the various windows builds. Also, use group policy editor to turn off auto update... for now until a fresh build comes out, you can't use windows past the August 2019 release (aka the .295 build)

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Hey mates, so which 5700xt is good enough? I'm thinking about to buy Sapphire 5700xt Pulse should I buy it?

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cfourz
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I'm curious as well. 

I have the Mantiz Venus with a 580 right now and want to upgrade to the 5700 XT now that it's confirmed working in Catalina. Are there any cards that are just too bulky for the eGPUs or specifically the Mantiz? Any recommendations on slimmer profiles would be helpful. 

Looking online, the Sapphire Nitro+, PowerColor RED Dragon, XFX THICC II seem to be getting the best reviews. 

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itsage
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@mymantiz_john posted this earlier today showing the PowerColor Red Devil RX 5700 XT fitting nicely inside the Mantiz Venus. It’s one of the best reviewed AIB cards.

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Eightarmedpet
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@cfourz

I have the Powercolor and its pretty standard/slim and fits in my Mantiz with ease, shorter than my ref Vega 56.

I have heard mixed things about the XFX Thicc so would avoid.

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Could someone upload on gdrive just the kexts? because I can not download the beta at the moment, very slow my internet, thank you already.

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Posted by: @eightarmedpet

I have heard mixed things about the XFX Thicc so would avoid.

Yep, this card is horrible and Steve from GamersNexus confirmed that:

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cfourz
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@itsage

@eightarmedpet

Thanks for the feedback. PowerColor on the way 🙂

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wimpzilla
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The cheapest Navi card is the best card, all BUT the reference model.

The best would be the Sapphire 5700xt nitro/pulse cards then the rest being the cheapest.

ONLY use the reference pcb if willing to replace the stock cooler for a better one or if taking the watercooling way!

The best electrical pcb is obviously the AMD reference as usual, but AMD decided to dump their good electrical engineering works with the worst cabbage cooler.

For sure the reference pcb can withstand this kind of cabbage cooler, maybe that's why it is designed to be so good!

 

 

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I just picked up the Red Devil. I looked at a lot of bench marks and it seems to be the best overall. I was going to go with the 2070 Super but since it’s $100 more and gpu support for the card is now included for macs, I don’t see why I wouldn’t go with the 5700

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Monaldinio
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@elman_agaev

The Sappihre Nitro+ 5700 XT is a good choice. 

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Posted by: @monaldinio

The Sappihre Nitro+ 5700 XT is a good choice. 

yeah I was considering exactly this GPU
thanks

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Long time lurker, just want to say that after installing the latest Catalina beta, my AMD 5700 works flawlessly  with my 2018 MBP, using a Razer Core X enclosure.  Not sure how to upload a screenshot for proof, but I promise it works great 😀

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kosmos1999
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The reference RX5700XT is the absolutely awesome model with really great cooling solution but you have to replace thermal material under the heat sink. AMD designed great cooling but they screwed it by applying really bad thermopad.

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@cfourz

PowerColor has done a great job with both the Red Dragon and Red Devil, the former can be slightly loud on load, but this can be tweaked (plus there is a silent BIOS). Both excellent for the price. I personally love the understated look of the Red Dragon (which I now have).

Besides those, the Sapphire cards and MSI Gaming X model are excellent IMO. Avoid XFX and MSI Evoke. The reference model is extremely loud (as is customary) so avoid those too.

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Posted by: @maximilian_aussprung

Hey, I wonder which egpu enclosure are you using? I bought the Razer Core X and a RX 5700 XT today but I'm struggling to get it working....

I have the same setup as yours and I can confirm it works perfectly on macOS 10.15.1 beta 2. Running some tests now!

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precision01
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Here goes my Unigine Valley benchmark for MacBook Pro 15" 2019 - core i9 - Radeon RX 5700 XT, with the same settings as @itsage at the beginning of the topic.

Valley macbook pro 15 2019 560x radeon5700xt
 
And here goes my Geekbench 5 result. From what I can see, something is not well optimized here. Geekbench results shows that a hackintosh computer can achieve a score of 39277 (30% better performance). Can it be Geekbench? Can it be macOS drivers for 5700 XT?
 
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jefniro
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@itsage  @precision01  And that's mine. Unigine Valley benchmark for MacBook Pro 13" Late 2016 - core i7 - Radeon RX 5700 XT (MSI MECH):

 

Schermata 2019 10 19 alle 08.54.06

 

 

And the Geekbench:

 

Schermata 2019 10 27 alle 08.54.55

 

And about Luxmark:

 

Schermata 2019 10 19 alle 13.08.06

 

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2016 13" MacBook Pro + RX 5700 XT @ 32Gbps-TB3 (AKiTiO Node) + Win10 1903


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Tsuka
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Throwing my results in as well. ColorMaster Reference RX 5700 XT in a Razer Core X. Attached to a 2018 Mac Mini i5. Unsure how to post images, but my scores are below.

Geekbench 5: 42012

Valley (Extreme HD): 3345 (79.9/34.2/131.2 avg min max)

 

 

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Eightarmedpet
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Would love to post my Benchmarks too but looks like the PSU in my Mantiz has died... argh... (error 43, reinstalled drivers, internal SSD not showing up in macOS).

Paging @mymantiz_john

Put my Vega back in and it works, could I have an issue with my Gpu?!

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GTX1070 + Sonnet Breakaway Box + Win10
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Vega 56 + Razer Core V1 + macOS + Win10
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@precision01

Could you or anybody else perhaps try the same benchmark in a regular PC setup? I’m curious about the thunderbolt performance penalty we get with the 5700XT.

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jefniro
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With my setup I can show you the Geekbench Benchmark differences. More than 4 time better...

 

Schermata 2019 10 19 alle 09.43.28

Schermata 2019 10 19 alle 13.00.04

 

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@jefniro

Ah sorry I should’ve been more precise, I meant the RX5700XT performance in a regular tower PC with a direct PCIe lane. Basically to estimate what loss comes from using it as an eGPU.

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Posted by: @themegatb

@jefniro

Ah sorry I should’ve been more precise, I meant the RX5700XT performance in a regular tower PC with a direct PCIe lane. Basically to estimate what loss comes from using it as an eGPU.

Usually, as I know, you loose 20% ca. performances... but others here can you explain it better. However if you search it in this forum you will find something about.

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Posted by: @itsage
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Need a web page that compares 5700XT with RX580, Radeon VII, Vega FE, Vega 56, and Vega 64 in eGPUs. Bonus points for including WX cards.

I have these following cards which can work in macOS 10.15.1 Dev Beta 2: ASUS Strix R9 Fury, ASUS R9 Nano, AMD RX 480, Gigabyte AORUS RX 580 XTR, PowerColor RX Vega 56 Nano, PowerColor RX Vega 64 LC, AMD Vega Frontier Edition Air, AMD Pro WX 9100, PowerColor Radeon VII, AMD RX 5700, and PowerColor Red Devil RX 5700 XT coming on Monday. The host Mac computers available: 2010 Mac Pro [internal PCIe], 2013 Mac Pro [Thunderbolt 2], 2016 15" MacBook Pro [Thunderbolt 3], 2018 Mac mini [Thunderbolt 3], 2019 13" MacBook Pro [Thunderbolt 3]. Let me know which kind of pairings, tests, and benchmarks you'd like to see.

I'm sure you've already benchmarked many of those combinations. One would just need to look at the builds, extract the benchmarks, and enter the results in a spreadsheet or database.

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How to set up the NVIDIA egpu in the Mac OS 10.15

 

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No drivers for Nvidia cards in 10.15 🙁

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Mac mini 2018 i5 egpu razor core x with PowerColor red devil 5700 xt Valley score on beta Catalina:

 

 Screen Shot 2019 10 19 at 2.00.29 PM

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Posted by: @themegatb

@precision01

Could you or anybody else perhaps try the same benchmark in a regular PC setup? I’m curious about the thunderbolt performance penalty we get with the 5700XT.

Hi, @themegatb

I do not have a similar desktop, but I can give you the percentage with high level of confidence. Of course the numbers can vary a little from game to game, app to app, but you can believe in this numbers for a thunderbolt 3 connection full speed:

 

1080p resolution: Loss of 15 - 20% FPS

1440p resolution: Loss of 12 - 15% FPS

2160p resolution (4K): Loss of 10 - 13% FPS

Edit: This numbers on Windows 10 Bootcamp, of course.

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GN Final 5700xt Round-up:

One can find bellow almost the full 5700XT cards stack.
On overall the general consensus seems that, blower reference model aside, one get a decent card enough for the price tag.
Getting the cheapest decent card is where the real deal is with Navi.

The dimensions of modern graphics cards frequently exceeds the dimensions specified in the PCIe standard. Particularly, no card model fits in the specified height limit of 107 mm.

 
Card Power Fans Length

(mm)

Height

(mm)

Thickness

(mm)

AMD RX 5700 XT (all ref. models) 225 W 1x 70 mm[1] 272 111 36
MSI RX 5700 XT Mech OC[2]   2x 232 126 46
MSI RX 5700 XT Evoke OC[3]   2x 90 mm[4] 254 129 51
Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 5700 XT[5] 241 W 2x 95 mm[6] 254 135 46.5
Sapphire Nitro+ RX 5700 XT[7] 265 W 2x 95 + 1x 87 mm[8]:3 306 135 49
Gigabyte RX 5700 XT Gaming OC[9]   3x 80 mm[9] 279.9 113.4 49.6 (2.5 slot)[10]
ASRock Challenger D RX 5700 XT OC[11]   2x 100 mm[12] 281 137[a] 42
XFX RX 5700 XT Thicc II[13]   2x 100 mm[14] 293 130 55
XFX RX 5700 XT Raw II[15]   2x 100 mm[16] 278 140 58
PowerColor Red Devil RX 5700 XT[17]   3x 90 mm[18] 300 132 53
PowerColor Red Dragon RX 5700 XT   2x 100 mm[18]      
Asus ROG Strix Radeon RX 5700 XT OC 235 W[19]:28 3x[19]:1     2.7 slots[19]:1
Asus TUF Gaming X3 RX 5700 XT[20]   3x 80 mm[21] 269 125 54
  1. This number should be lower, as this card's height is apparently measured differently from others. The cited size includes the height of the metal bracket.

 

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MacBook Pro Late 2016 15" Core i7 16GB RAM TouchBar + AKiTiO Node Pro + Power Color Red Devil RX 5700 XT

macOS Catalina 10.15.1 Beta (19B77a)

 

Just couldn't figure out how to get CS:GO, Minecraft, etc. working on eGPU. Used a set-eGPU script but did not work at all; it did not even enable "Prefer External GPU" on Get Info (probably because not yet compatible with macOS Catalina?).

If this is off-topic, I will move this post to another thread.

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Used to be running on AKiTiO Node Pro + Palit GTX 1080 with MacBook Pro Late 2016 15" but stopped working since I upgraded the OS to macOS Mojave. Lazy NVIDIA...


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jltawil
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Word on the street is that Catalina now supports the RX 5700 XT chipset natively - anyone confirm this?

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@yossi1114

To answer your slightly off topic question, for Minecraft and CS:GO in macOS the game doesn't start from a .app but instead starts from a script file. This means those games don't respect the prefer external GPU setting. Setting Prefer external GPU on the terminal application and then manually starting the game script from the terminal should accelerate the game with the eGPU. However, at least in the case of CS:GO, this blocks you from official servers.

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Lol. Just read this thread 😛

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