EXP GDC Beast V8.0 "Mini PCI-E Version" vs ADT R63SG for mPCIe 2.0x1 vs USB3 PCI-E Riser
I have an older asus g75vw which is not gpu upgradable
GTX 670M, i7-3610QM
NO Thunderbolt. I use it to run tensorflow on cpu. I need to make it run the same thing on GPU as well, run fast.
To connect egpu I have two ugly options, both with a sticking peace of cable:
1) costs less: EXP GDC Beast Mini PCI-E V8.0 for mPCIe Slot: PCIe 2.0x1
probably works on
2) costs more: ADT R63SG for mPCIe ( = mini pcie express) Slot: PCIe 2.0x1
I am not that much sure about the transfer rate. If in my case the data is transferred most of the time once to the gpu when the calculation starts and then back when it is done then it is ok as for cripo-mining. If in fact it requires the 2-way communication, then I will be limited by PCIe 2.0x1 2-way transfer rate.
Q1) Does anybody have experience with the both GDC Beast and ADT R63SG?
Are they stable? I need this setup being able to run days non stop.
Is ADT R63SG more stable? It seems that HDMI cable/plug might be not so good
for mPCIe signals?
Q2) GDC Beast uses an HDMI plug/slot on the gpu side. What kind
of plug/slot ADT R63SG uses?
Q4) Is there any solution which is less ugly on the laptop side?
Apart from the cost, why don't use a plug/socket on laptop side?
why don't use the usb3.0 plug/socket which costs nothing like in
PCIE 1x To USB 3.0 Cable for PCI-E Riser Card
More expensive industry like cable solutions that cost from $100 surely exist as well
Q5) From the videos it looks like egpu works through the USB 3.0 Cable/Socket with degradation of being almost 3 slower probably when the link requires 2 way communication. USB3 PCI-E. Similarly if the built in (not the external) gpu is connected to the monitor (2-way data transfer) there is significantly more degradation then when the monitor is attached to the external gpu (mostly 1-way). Can anybody clarify from the real experience?
Q6) Riser does exist for the laptop socket (mPCIe 2.0x1).
Any experience? By the way, since it is no chip "No driver needed", is it just a cable and a socket from the usb 3 with the PCIe 2.0 x1 bus lane inside? Is it really anyhow different from both GDC Beast and ADT R63SG? Are they hardly different at all apart from the cables and the sockets?
They all use the same PCIe 2.0 x1 bus lane inside, so they cannot have Transfer
rate higher then 5.0 GT/s (Throughput < 984.6 MB/s)
If they are basically the same thing then USB3 PCI-E Riser can be maid the least ugly as I just have to install an additional usb3 socket through the plastic and can probably use just any usb 3 cable. For G75VW it looks like a good solution as the x1 pci wifi adapter socket is the only available simple access to the pci bus.
thanks in advance for your kind advice
<<<Addition June 27, 2019>>>
It is really possible to place tensorflow computations entirely on one/many selected gpu-s:
This means that the tensorflow computation can fully benefit from an external egpu even on PCIe 2.0x1. Only the one-time task placement/input at the start and output at the end will be the subject of the PCIe 2.0x1 transfer rate. So for tensorflow it is possible to benefit from the most advanced gpu-s with no performance degradation.
Please review the Buyer Guide that answers many of your questions:
Thanks. Still many things are not clear. Especially I would love somebody with machine learning, especially tensorflow experience clarify the degradation point on the pci 2.0 x1. I will probably build a dedicated server just for machine learning, but I am really interested in it in terms of the things I do for work. For the time being what I have is enough, but a 10x bust from egpu would be nice to have =)