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Shane1470
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Hello! This is actually my first time posting on the forums, but you guys seem pretty nice, and very knowledgeable about this stuff. With that said, after recently getting a laptop for school, I have started to get into pc gaming, and I would like my games to look a little better. I can't drop a ton of money for a full fledged gaming pc, and I already have a really portable laptop, so when I found out about eGPUs', they seemed like the perfect solution. The laptop is an HP Elitebook x360 1030 G2 (with a 7th Gen i5). I'm trying to keep the price low as possible, but to leave a little room for more gpu intense games (currently only playing Overwatch), I've decided to go with a GTX 1060. In specific, the best performance for the price I could seem to find was this card from Gigabyte (if you guys can find a cheaper card that still gives close performance to that, I'd love to know). As for the enclosure, I was originally thinking about the Sonnet eGFX Breakaway Box (it's currently $75 off). I was worried, however, as the graphics card's website says that the recommended PSU is 400 watt. However, on this website's buyer's guide, you guys state that the max GPU power for the breakaway box is 300 watt. Now, I'm assuming that I'm just making a stupid mistake. My guess is that, on the card's website, when they recommend the 400 watt PSU, they mean for a full pc, where the PSU is powering other things, not just the graphics card. Therefore, it should work just fine (if my theory is correct), but I just wanted to ask you guys first to make sure. I also wanted to post on here to hear whatever suggestions you guys may have for me. Also, if this card/box do end up working out together, I have some questions about overclocking, bottlenecking, and portability. But for now, I just wanna try and figure out if this graphics card and box would even work together. Finally, I would like to thank you all for taking the time to read my long, rambling post and I appreciate whatever help you can give. Thank you for your time today, and have a happy Thanksgiving.

HP Elitebook x360 1030 G2 (7th Gen i5 model)


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You're correct, they list the full PC PSU (to avoid confusion around average vs peak load, GPU vs machine load, etc). A 1060 should fit fine, unless you go for the big guys (1080/Vega or better) there should be no issue.

Note that the Elitebook x360 is not the same as the Spectre x360 you can read more about in the forums, so you'll probably lose a few % of performance (given the single USB-C port I'd guess it's a x2 GT2 config). If you need this for Overwatch and the like, it probably doesn't matter all that much (with the 7th gen i5, with more demanding games/apps you might get CPU-bottlenecked anyway). Also don't forget you just used that single TB3/USB-C port up.

 

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First of all, thank you for all your help! That cleared up my question, and made it quite a bit easier to understand how well it would work. Also, I'm not too worried about only having one Thunderbolt 3 port, as I don't use any other USB-C devices, and I don't plan on plugging anything into the ports on the Sonnet Breakaway box. (Which should help at least a little bit). Also, just out of curiosity, I have two more questions. First of all, would any overclocking at all even be possible with the breakaway box? And then also, do you have any idea on the size/portability of the device. (If you have one, anyways, it'd be relatively hard to answer that question if you don't lol). Anyways, I thank you for your quick response to my previous question, and wish you a happy Thanksgiving!

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Posted by: Shane1470

And then also, do you have any idea on the size/portability of the device. [Sonnet Breakaway Box]

Please refer to Size (in/mm, LxWxH)[ visual comparison ] row of the Buyer Guide to ascertain portability of the enclosure:

https://egpu.io/external-gpu-buyers-guide-2018/

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Thank you! Finally, I would presume that overclocking is not possible with the PSU in the breakaway box (I don't know very much about it, however, as I'm very new to overclocking). If this is not true, I'd love to know more about it so that I can get the most out of my eGPU. Thank you for all your guys' help!

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Posted by: Shane1470

First of all, would any overclocking at all even be possible with the breakaway box?

Overclocking typically works the same way if the eGPU has been setup. I can't tell you about the potential speeds you might achieve since that depends on the specific card silicon. Would I recommend doing so? Not really worth it in my opinion. The gains are minimal at best.

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The video card you selected is already overclocked...  However, I would save money buying a cheaper card that is not overclocked and manually do it yourself to save money.  If you can handle a mail in rebate and have a mastercard for the masterpass $25 promo with over $200 purchase then I would buy this instead (which is also factory overclocked):

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126133

Otherwise I would just get the cheapest one that has the ports and number of fans you want...:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487263

It really doesn't matter.  I guess there is a little advantage of some redundancy with 2 fans and slightly better cooling, but you are already sticking it into a enclosure.  Like was said previously not really worth time or money fooling with overclocking this particular card.

I would get the developer edition of the Sonnet also if this deal still works:

https://egpu.io/forums/deals/us250-sonnet-egfx-breakaway-box-developer-edition-60w-pd/

225W to graphics is more than enough power for all but the extremely expensive or old graphics cards that you aren't going to be fooling with.  Benefit here with developer edition is 60W power to laptop rather than 15W which if you don't use it at least makes it easier to resell it, but sounds like your laptop may need it or your future one will.

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Posted by: D G

The video card you selected is already overclocked...  However, I would save money buying a cheaper card that is not overclocked and manually do it yourself to save money.  If you can handle a mail in rebate and have a mastercard for the masterpass $25 promo with over $200 purchase then I would buy this instead (which is also factory overclocked):

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126133

Otherwise I would just get the cheapest one that has the ports and number of fans you want...:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487263

It really doesn't matter.  I guess there is a little advantage of some redundancy with 2 fans and slightly better cooling, but you are already sticking it into a enclosure.  Like was said previously not really worth time or money fooling with overclocking this particular card.

I would get the developer edition of the Sonnet also if this deal still works:

https://egpu.io/forums/deals/us250-sonnet-egfx-breakaway-box-developer-edition-60w-pd

First of all, I would like to thank you for letting me know about that deal. I am kind of confused about the specs on that particular card (the first ASUS one). It says the core clock (and to a lesser extent, the boost clock) speeds are much lower than the other card. I'm new to all this, but I'm assuming that the core OC speed it lists is around what I could most likely expect for overclocking. I'm not sure though, this could just be some marketing lingo I don't know about. Just curious, however, because now that you've shown me that deal, it's too good to pass up, and I don't think the small performance difference is worth the extra $50. However, I am still interested in learning how much I could safely overclock it. Thanks for sharing the deal with me, and I hope to learn more about how much I can oc this card!

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With the money you save you should put to buying the developer edition of the sonnet breakaway instead.

That overclock listed is what it automatically does kind of like your intel processor turbo boosts to, but doesn't always do depending on workload.

You should be able to overclock any of the 1060 3gb cards to 1.6-1.8 for base and over 1.8-2 for boost clock.

Plenty of examples on web if you do a little google searching yourself, but be sure to make sure you are looking at the 3gb version instead of 6gb because they are different.

If you aren't good at that then you should probably just leave it alone because not worth the marginal difference for the risk which could void warranty, burn it up, or reduce its lifespan.

The safe and stable overclock is specific to each ONE card.  This requires tweaking and testing yourself.  Watch some youtube videos or find some guides for overclocking the 1060 3gb series.

However I should be buying the same card and will provide my overclock settings to you for you to use at your own risk.

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Sounds good, I probably won't need a ton of power anyways. However, I'm not sure what I get out of the dev box. It definitely seems like a good deal, but I don't know if I have to do anything special to get it, or why it's better than the normal Breakaway box. I wonder if its more power, or its better for macbooks, or what. If it's the macbook thing, then that won't be of any use for me. However, if it's more power, that could be useful for overclocking.

Thanks for the help!

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