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willemsleegers
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November 3, 2018 5:24 pm  

Hey everyone,

I bought a new Mac Mini which I want to also use for gaming. Part of my motivation to buy a Mac Mini for this purpose is that with eGPUs I can get the performance I need and potentially upgrade it over the years to keep up with games. 

With this in mind, what makes sense to buy?

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November 3, 2018 6:23 pm  

Currently I’m thinking the Razer Core X because it supports a large range of GPUs, including the AMD Vega series.

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November 3, 2018 6:34 pm  
Posted by: willemsleegers

Hey everyone,

I bought a new Mac Mini which I want to also use for gaming. Part of my motivation to buy a Mac Mini for this purpose is that with eGPUs I can get the performance I need and potentially upgrade it over the years to keep up with games. 

With this in mind, what makes sense to buy?

I would wait and see if Mac Mini works with eGPU in Windows and which hardware.

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November 3, 2018 7:01 pm  

That makes sense, but let's say that ends up not being a problem, is there an alternative to the Razer Core X that makes a lot of sense when future-proofing is part of the goal?

I also see that the Razer Core X is not being shipped to the Netherlands, which is problematic..

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November 8, 2018 7:32 pm  

@willemsleegers - there's a lot of discussion on this here:

https://egpu.io/forums/which-gear-should-i-buy/2018-mac-mini-for-egpu/

I only received my Mini yesterday and I'm using it with a Razer Core X and an Nvidia GTX 1080 - there were absolutely no problems getting everything up and running with this setup, I've posted details in the linked thread (1-2 BSODs during installation of drivers, but nothing that persists as an issue).

 

However, the CPU in the Mini (I have the 6 core 3.2GHz i7) is definitely thermal throttling under load - I'll be doing a bit more testing today and trying things like under volting or manual fan control. 

 

TL;DR; - the Core X works beautifully and there are no issues installing Windows via Boot Camp and getting everything running. The i7 though is indeed throttling and needs further investigation/tweaks, as I can't imagine running the system at 80C+ long term is good for it.

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November 11, 2018 1:33 pm  

I Just returned the Razer core X. The fans where to loud to my liking. I use my 2018 mac mini as a media server, Watching films and playing music. My mini stays on 24-7 and that is  quiet is important. Now i am planing to order Asus XG Station Pro instead as this has a feature that close of the fans when the temp of the Asus 580 rx 4gb below 55C. Hopefully the fans go on only when playing games and turns of when playing music  😀 

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November 11, 2018 1:42 pm  
Posted by: Perk

I Just returned the Razer core X. The fans where to loud to my liking. I use my 2018 mac mini as a media server, Watching films and playing music. My mini stays on 24-7 and that is  quiet is important. Now i am planing to order Asus XG Station Pro instead as this has a feature that close of the fans when the temp of the Asus 580 rx 4gb below 55C. Hopefully the fans go on only when playing games and turns of when playing music  😀 Or at least stays quiet when only the mac mini stays on.

I had both systems for testing and kept the Asus XG Station Pro. For me, the Razer Core X was too loud, too.  I would like to try the Mantiz Venus MZ-02, because of the better PD, but you hear that it has a fan problem, too. What a pity.
The Blackmagic eGPUs are very quiet, too, if AMD Radeon is a possibility for you,

You can see my builds here

https://egpu.io/forums/builds/mid-2018-13-qc-macbook-pro-gtx-1080ti32gbps-tb3-asus-xg-station-pro-macos10-13-6-theitsage/

and

https://egpu.io/forums/builds/macbook-pro-15-2018-i7-razer-core-x-evga-gtx-1080-ti-2/

Edit: And yes, Asus XG Station Pro has 0 db without load.

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November 11, 2018 3:02 pm  
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Posted by: Perk

I Just returned the Razer core X. The fans where to loud to my liking. I use my 2018 mac mini as a media server, Watching films and playing music. My mini stays on 24-7 and that is  quiet is important. Now i am planing to order Asus XG Station Pro instead as this has a feature that close of the fans when the temp of the Asus 580 rx 4gb below 55C. Hopefully the fans go on only when playing games and turns of when playing music  😀 Or at least stays quiet when only the mac mini stays on.

I had both systems for testing and kept the Asus XG Station Pro. For me, the Razer Core X was too loud, too.  I would like to try the Mantiz Venus MZ-02, because of the better PD, but you hear that it has a fan problem, too. What a pity.
The Blackmagic eGPUs are very quiet, too, if AMD Radeon is a possibility for you,

You can see my builds here

https://egpu.io/forums/builds/mid-2018-13-qc-macbook-pro-gtx-1080ti32gbps-tb3-asus-xg-station-pro-macos10-13-6-theitsage/

and

https://egpu.io/forums/builds/macbook-pro-15-2018-i7-razer-core-x-evga-gtx-1080-ti-2/

Edit: And yes, Asus XG Station Pro has 0 db without load.

Thanks that's what i like to hear. 0 DB without load. I have XG station and ps4 controller ordered.
The XG station has the same color as the new mac mini as well. NICE.

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November 14, 2018 11:19 am  
Posted by: OliverB
Posted by: Perk

I Just returned the Razer core X. The fans where to loud to my liking. I use my 2018 mac mini as a media server, Watching films and playing music. My mini stays on 24-7 and that is  quiet is important. Now i am planing to order Asus XG Station Pro instead as this has a feature that close of the fans when the temp of the Asus 580 rx 4gb below 55C. Hopefully the fans go on only when playing games and turns of when playing music  😀 Or at least stays quiet when only the mac mini stays on.

I had both systems for testing and kept the Asus XG Station Pro. For me, the Razer Core X was too loud, too.  I would like to try the Mantiz Venus MZ-02, because of the better PD, but you hear that it has a fan problem, too. What a pity.
The Blackmagic eGPUs are very quiet, too, if AMD Radeon is a possibility for you,

You can see my builds here

https://egpu.io/forums/builds/mid-2018-13-qc-macbook-pro-gtx-1080ti32gbps-tb3-asus-xg-station-pro-macos10-13-6-theitsage/

and

https://egpu.io/forums/builds/macbook-pro-15-2018-i7-razer-core-x-evga-gtx-1080-ti-2/

Edit: And yes, Asus XG Station Pro has 0 db without load.

I received my Asus xg station yesterday.
for my needs it was perfect. Playing music web browsing none off the fans where  in use. =0db
Even when i did start a game i found the fans to be quite silent.

Damn it look good beside my new 2018 mac mini :mrgreen: 

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November 14, 2018 11:36 am  

I would buy a Gigabyte Gaming Box because it is the most tiniest enclosure for now and it goes well with a mini pc like Mac Mini.

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November 14, 2018 1:49 pm  
Posted by: Perk
Posted by: OliverB
Posted by: Perk

I Just returned the Razer core X. The fans where to loud to my liking. I use my 2018 mac mini as a media server, Watching films and playing music. My mini stays on 24-7 and that is  quiet is important. Now i am planing to order Asus XG Station Pro instead as this has a feature that close of the fans when the temp of the Asus 580 rx 4gb below 55C. Hopefully the fans go on only when playing games and turns of when playing music  😀 Or at least stays quiet when only the mac mini stays on.

I had both systems for testing and kept the Asus XG Station Pro. For me, the Razer Core X was too loud, too.  I would like to try the Mantiz Venus MZ-02, because of the better PD, but you hear that it has a fan problem, too. What a pity.
The Blackmagic eGPUs are very quiet, too, if AMD Radeon is a possibility for you,

You can see my builds here

https://egpu.io/forums/builds/mid-2018-13-qc-macbook-pro-gtx-1080ti32gbps-tb3-asus-xg-station-pro-macos10-13-6-theitsage/

and

https://egpu.io/forums/builds/macbook-pro-15-2018-i7-razer-core-x-evga-gtx-1080-ti-2/

Edit: And yes, Asus XG Station Pro has 0 db without load.

I received my Asus xg station yesterday.
for my needs it was perfect. Playing music web browsing none off the fans where  in use. =0db
Even when i did start a game i found the fans to be quite silent.

Damn it look good beside my new 2018 mac mini :mrgreen: 

Pics please.

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2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar + GTX1070 (debating 2070 upgrade) @32Gbps-TB3 (Razer Core V1) + Win10

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November 14, 2018 5:56 pm  
Posted by: Eightarmedpet
Posted by: Perk
Posted by: OliverB
Posted by: Perk

I Just returned the Razer core X. The fans where to loud to my liking. I use my 2018 mac mini as a media server, Watching films and playing music. My mini stays on 24-7 and that is  quiet is important. Now i am planing to order Asus XG Station Pro instead as this has a feature that close of the fans when the temp of the Asus 580 rx 4gb below 55C. Hopefully the fans go on only when playing games and turns of when playing music  😀 Or at least stays quiet when only the mac mini stays on.

I had both systems for testing and kept the Asus XG Station Pro. For me, the Razer Core X was too loud, too.  I would like to try the Mantiz Venus MZ-02, because of the better PD, but you hear that it has a fan problem, too. What a pity.
The Blackmagic eGPUs are very quiet, too, if AMD Radeon is a possibility for you,

You can see my builds here

https://egpu.io/forums/builds/mid-2018-13-qc-macbook-pro-gtx-1080ti32gbps-tb3-asus-xg-station-pro-macos10-13-6-theitsage/

and

https://egpu.io/forums/builds/macbook-pro-15-2018-i7-razer-core-x-evga-gtx-1080-ti-2/

Edit: And yes, Asus XG Station Pro has 0 db without load.

I received my Asus xg station yesterday.
for my needs it was perfect. Playing music web browsing none off the fans where  in use. =0db
Even when i did start a game i found the fans to be quite silent.

Damn it look good beside my new 2018 mac mini :mrgreen: 

Pics please.

Perfect match

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November 14, 2018 6:05 pm  

Hi guys,

I am thinking about a setup with a MacMini 2018, Sonnet 650, Sapphire Nitro+ RX Vega 64, LG UltraFine 5K connected directly to the MacMini and another FullHD Screen connected to the eGPU. Does this actually work to get all the power from the eGPU?

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November 14, 2018 6:28 pm  

@konzentrat Unless you already have the LG UltraFine 5K Display, don't buy it for eGPU use. It creates a lot more headache and expenses. To extract the most power from the eGPU, get a DisplayPort monitor that you can connect the eGPU directly to it.

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November 14, 2018 7:11 pm  

Okay, thanks for the hint. But is it possible to control the Volume and Brightness with the keyboard with other Displays? And are there any similar 5K Displays with built-in speakers suitable for Video & Photography work. I find it rather hard to find good solutions...

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November 14, 2018 8:58 pm  

@eightarmedpet thanks for your reply. Why? Are you gaming with it? I would mainly use it for Video/Photo & 3D Rendering.

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November 14, 2018 10:36 pm  

@konzentrat

maybe I was too quick to assume your use case would be much the same as mine, which is some video and graphics stuff plus gaming, which is where the 5K's really fall down, but if you are using it in macOS and for Video mainly it shouldnt cause you any problems, running games in macOS with "prefer external Gpu" selected worked just fine for me.

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2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar + [email protected] (Sonnet Breakaway Box) + Win10

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar + GTX1070 (debating 2070 upgrade) @32Gbps-TB3 (Razer Core V1) + Win10

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar + Vega 56 @32Gbps-TB3 (Razer Core V1) + Win10 & macOS 10.14+

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