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(@nicola_monda)
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Dear forum users,

I need to change my actual HP Omen 15 with an ultrabook since this one is really heavy to travel with or go to university.

I'm looking for a 2 in 1 ultrabook with 8550u, ssd and 16gb.

The options as a gamer are microsoft surface or razer blade however I just jumped into knowing that I can choose cheaper solutions attaching a eGPU via thunderbolt 3

I saw here that a notebook needs to have GT4 OPI and 4 lines thunderbolt 3 in order to work properly with egpus with native displays and processors.

There is a guide to follow in order to understand what laptops have those specs? I saw several spectre 360 ae04#ng models and the latest yoga 920 but how i know what are the proper model since there is no trace in understanding if they have or not those requirements?

I plan on attaching an aorus gaming box.

Thanks in advance for any help you would provide me an best regards.

 

Updated: Ultrabook Buyer’s Guide: Best Choices for External GPU

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4chip4
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A few quick notes:

- the Microsoft Surface line does not use Thunderbolt, so no eGPUs there (unless you mean the performance base of the Surface Books).

- "properly" might be a stretch, x2 and GT2 laptops will work, but will have a performance penalty (but then, so does using the internal display, so it's more about which compromises you are willing to make).

- Among Spectres, the best one for eGPU setups is very specifically the 13" x360 with 8th gen Intel CPUs (i7 8550). Others will work (15", 7th gen, etc), but will carry a 5-20% performance penalty depending on use-case

 

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 D G
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Yep, the HP Spectre x360 13" models or Lenovo Yoga 920 both with 8th gen 8250/8550 processors.

14" Lenovo Yoga 920+ [a video card]@32Gbps-TB3 (HP Omen Accelerator) + Win10+ThrottleStop+Nekteck TB3 Cable 100W 6ft


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lightstrum
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Does this include the Spectre 13 T in ceramic white? I like this one because it is the smallest, the most beautiful, And the power input is on the usb 3.1 not on the 2 thunderbolts leaving them both free. Is there anyway to know for sure if it is a 4 laner?

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4chip4
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Unfortunately no surefire (outside way) other than someone testing it. Given there isn't an internal NVidia GPU and that it shares some innards with the x360, I'd guess it's likely that it's an x4, but confirmation from an owner would be still the best way.

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If your dock has decent power delivery (e.g. 60W or 87W) charging from the TB3 port is ideal.

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dslater
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Posted by: 4chip4

Unfortunately no surefire (outside way) other than someone testing it. Given there isn't an internal NVidia GPU and that it shares some innards with the x360, I'd guess it's likely that it's an x4, but confirmation from an owner would be still the best way.

So HWinfo shows x1 unused, x1 internal attached to wifi adapter, x4 unused, and x4 attached to nvme drive.

 

lanes

 

My experience has been the rear TB3 port is the x4 that shows as unused (that's where I plug in my egpu). The front one I assume would be the x1.

 

Please note... I have the copper/dark ash x360, not the white one, implementation guide has been posted.

 

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Late 2016 15" MacBook Pro
Late 2017 13" HP Spectre x360 + RX [email protected] (Mantiz Venus) + Win10 // 8th Gen i7 8550u, 16gb ram, 512gb ssd
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(@nicola_monda)
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Thank you for all the help.

4chip I was only stating that for gaming I choose among an ultrabook like surface or blade (that actually have built-in GPU but are heavier) or an ultrabook with eGPU. Furthermore, I'll never turn back a 6700hq (omen 15 2016) for a dual core i7. 8550u represent the minimum for me. 😀

I'll go with one of these 2:

lenovo 920 13ikb 80y8001 8550 16gb 512

HP Spectre x360 13-ae004nl 8550 16gb 512

Actually, these are the only solutions available on amazon Italy so I can't choose differently. Is the spectre model fine? I cant find any thunderbolt info about the lines or GT. 🙁

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 D G
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Yes, that HP Spectre x360 is 4 lanes and GT4.

14" Lenovo Yoga 920+ [a video card]@32Gbps-TB3 (HP Omen Accelerator) + Win10+ThrottleStop+Nekteck TB3 Cable 100W 6ft


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Posted by: dslater
Posted by: 4chip4

Unfortunately no surefire (outside way) other than someone testing it. Given there isn't an internal NVidia GPU and that it shares some innards with the x360, I'd guess it's likely that it's an x4, but confirmation from an owner would be still the best way.

My experience has been the rear TB3 port is the x4 that shows as unused (that's where I plug in my egpu). The front one I assume would be the x1.

 

Please note... I have the copper/dark ash x360, not the white one, implementation guide has been posted.

Hi, yes, I believe there is consensus about 13" x360 ones having x4 - I was just referring to the Spectre 13 @lightstrum mentioned, aka "T" Spectre (ie not x360 Spectre), which is a slightly different beast, with a slightly different port layout (has 3 USB-Cs, all from the rear side).

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(@nicola_monda)
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Posted by: D G

Yes, that HP Spectre x360 is 4 lanes and GT4, but get the Yoga 920.

A reason behind this statement? 😀

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Check them both out in store, reviews, or look at any hands on comparison online about them.  The general preference is towards the Yoga 920 (I got the 8gb ram and 256gb ssd for $1149), but I almost got the Spectre x360 16gb ram 512 ssd for $999 black friday deal instead except they were out of stock because I didn't order online and didn't want to wait in line Thursday.  In any case don't get the 4k screen.

From my understanding the benefits of the Yoga 920 are:

More battery life, higher quality hinge and build quality in general, lenovo cools better so throttles less and less fan noise, the keyboard (centered and closer to screen giving more room for wrists) and touchpad (not wide) are better positioned, slightly bigger screen, HP is picky with third party chargers, and I believe the active pen is better.

Though there are some things the Spectre x360 is better at too.  And this is an awfully good deal for the HP Spectre x360:

http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-spectre-laptop-13t-1zx32av-1

The good about the HP Spectre is the cheaper price, volume rocker on side, finger print sensor on side, microsd slot, intel wifi card, option for built in privacy screen, and the dark ash silver/bronze color contrast looks good.

14" Lenovo Yoga 920+ [a video card]@32Gbps-TB3 (HP Omen Accelerator) + Win10+ThrottleStop+Nekteck TB3 Cable 100W 6ft


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Posted by: 4chip4
Posted by: dslater
Posted by: 4chip4

Unfortunately no surefire (outside way) other than someone testing it. Given there isn't an internal NVidia GPU and that it shares some innards with the x360, I'd guess it's likely that it's an x4, but confirmation from an owner would be still the best way.

My experience has been the rear TB3 port is the x4 that shows as unused (that's where I plug in my egpu). The front one I assume would be the x1.

 

Please note... I have the copper/dark ash x360, not the white one, implementation guide has been posted.

Hi, yes, I believe there is consensus about 13" x360 ones having x4 - I was just referring to the Spectre 13 @lightstrum mentioned, aka "T" Spectre (ie not x360 Spectre), which is a slightly different beast, with a slightly different port layout (has 3 USB-Cs, all from the rear side).

Ah... ok, I'm tracking now 🙂

Late 2016 15" MacBook Pro
Late 2017 13" HP Spectre x360 + RX [email protected] (Mantiz Venus) + Win10 // 8th Gen i7 8550u, 16gb ram, 512gb ssd
Vega 56 (flashed with 64 bios)


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lightstrum
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I spent some time negotiating with HP for the 13t in white or the 360 in silver ash. What I like about the 13t is that it is the smallest and lightest and beautiful, but more important it will power by the 3.1 input or one of the thunderbolt ones. The importance of this for me is leaving the two TB3 ports free or receiving power by tb3 when egpu'd. The 360 will not power through the usb port so only one TB3 free when plugged in. I want the 4k screen to view my video stuff. Loaded with 1tb ssd the 360 comes in under 1400, the 13t under 1800- they want a huge up charge for pretty and sleek. They did guarantee that the 13t in white is 4 lane. 

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(@nicola_monda)
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Posted by: D G

Check them both out in store, reviews, or look at any hands on comparison online about them.  The general preference is towards the Yoga 920 (I got the 8gb ram and 256gb ssd for $1149), but I almost got the Spectre x360 16gb ram 512 ssd for $999 black friday deal instead except they were out of stock because I didn't order online and didn't want to wait in line Thursday.  In any case don't get the 4k screen.

From my understanding the benefits of the Yoga 920 are:

More battery life, higher quality hinge and build quality in general, lenovo cools better so throttles less and less fan noise, the keyboard (centered and closer to screen giving more room for wrists) and touchpad (not wide) are better positioned, slightly bigger screen, HP is picky with third party chargers, and I believe the active pen is better.

Though there are some things the Spectre x360 is better at too.  And this is an awfully good deal for the HP Spectre x360:

http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-spectre-laptop-13t-1zx32av-1

The good about the HP Spectre is the cheaper price, volume rocker on side, finger print sensor on side, microsd slot, intel wifi card, option for built in privacy screen, and the dark ash silver/bronze color contrast looks good.

perfect description. Actually I'm in Italy so that deal doesn't fit for me and there are no lenovo / spectre solutions available. I must wait for them actually... 😀

I would choose lenovo only for 0.6 inch more of screen. 😀 Let's see if is it available.

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I'm sorry. Is razer blade stealth fine? I saw a thunderbolt but i cannot manage to find info about it.

 

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 D G
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The 8th gen quad core version, yes, but it is expensive.

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My issue with Razer is that they don't apparently last. My Razer Blade Stealth 2016 started literally coming apart (the screws started falling out, and the chassis is slowly unzipping) less than a year after I bought it. And apparently that's fairly common. 

So clearly I need to replace it... and I'm debating between a Spectre x360 15" 8th gen and a Lenovo Yoga and a Dell XPS 15

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https://egpu.io/forums/builds/yoga-920-auros-1080-gaming-box/

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Soon you will have the option for the Lenovo X1 Carbon 6th and X1 Yoga 3rd!

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Talk about bad timing... I purchased a Spectre x360 8th gen not long ago... though I'd love for it to have an HDR monitor with an Adobe RGB color space, that's so far been my only disappointment. But I also couldn't wait any longer; my Razer Blade Stealth wasn't doing the job (crashing a lot), and I had work to get done... sigh.

 

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I felt that way after buying my Spectre x360 at the end of 2016, right before they came out with the newer version that had pen support.  I couldn't wait any longer either.  Until someone starts leasing the latest hardware and letting you refresh it every few months, we'll always be stuck with that problem.  

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There is always going to be something even more awesome in 6 months time. If one would always wait for the next best thing coming up, one would never buy anything 🙂

One way of how manufacturers are thinking about getting around is popularizing device as a service options, where you can upgrade/switch any time at a minimal cost, as opposed to making huge investments in hardware you may not need or need to change. We're still a long way from this being mainstream in consumer space (in the professional/workstation space it's far more popular), but it's an option.

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