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BeardedBro
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So I run a MBP 2019, I had the R VII but it didn’t work in bootcamp, where I play most of my games. At this point if I want a graphics card that works in bootcamp first and then Mac OS 2nd what would be my best bet?

Nvidia seems to be the best overall but the 5700 seems pretty good too. Im not sure which is ultimately better but since I do most of my gaming on the bootcamp side, I don’t necessarily need the card on the macOS side since I use that for general work purposes.

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eGPU: Red Devil 5700 xt in a Razer Core X Chroma


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@beardedbro

I'm assuming you are looking at the 5700 XT as the 5700 and 2070 Super are in two different classes really. There's a better selection of AIB boards for the 2070 super, but it's more expensive. I'd definitely NOT get the blower 5700 XT it's LOUD. Get the MSI Evoke or Powercolor Red Devil.

The 2070 super has the advantage of RTX and it's a little bit faster considering no OC for either card. (unless you play Forza Horizon all day). That's a tough choice IMO as the 5700 XT is a bit cheaper. Are you sure you wouldn't have the same support problem with yet another AMD card?

Why not buy both and try them both out and see which one you like best and return the other one. Smile

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BeardedBro
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I know Navi isn’t fully supported on Mac OS, though hopefully this gets fixed soon. So the 5700 xt is reduced to basically its bootcamp abilities atm. I just am not sure which card has more to offer, and holds up better etc. I’ve only looked at AMD before. I’m also not sure how hard it is to get an nvidia card to work in bootcamp etc. I assume it just works but again I’ve onkh been looking at AMD until now

2019 15" MBP running 10.14.5 + Bootcamp Win 10 (18362.295)
Processor: 2.4 GHz Intel Core i9
Memory: 32 GB 2400 MHz DDR4
eGPU: Red Devil 5700 xt in a Razer Core X Chroma


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jefniro
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Example:

AMD GPU price 400$
NVIDIA GPU price 550$

If you change your GPU every 2 years usually (for example) you will have in 6 years:

AMD total costs: 1200$
NVIDIA total costs: 1650$

So, hypothetically, you can change your AMD GPU one time more than the NVIDIA in 6 years with the same budget.

What I think about this question is that if you have the budget and if you will never need eGPU in MacOS then the best choice is 2070 Super, best performances and RTX build in. But if you need your eGPU in MacOS and you prefer pay less (maybe because you will change the GPU more frequently) the choice now is AMD because  it seems that are great this time!

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BeardedBro
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Posted by: @jefniro

Example:

AMD GPU price 400$
NVIDIA GPU price 550$

If you change your GPU every 2 years usually (for example) you will have in 6 years:

AMD total costs: 1200$
NVIDIA total costs: 1650$

So, hypothetically, you can change your AMD GPU one time more than the NVIDIA in 6 years with the same budget.

What I think about this question is that if you have the budget and if you will never need eGPU in MacOS then the best choice is 2070 Super, best performances and RTX build in. But if you need your eGPU in MacOS and you prefer pay less (maybe because you will change the GPU more frequently) the choice now is AMD because  it seems that are great this time!

I like running mine more or less in to the ground unless something insanely good comes out, then I might sell it to my cousins or something.

2019 15" MBP running 10.14.5 + Bootcamp Win 10 (18362.295)
Processor: 2.4 GHz Intel Core i9
Memory: 32 GB 2400 MHz DDR4
eGPU: Red Devil 5700 xt in a Razer Core X Chroma


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ngthtg735252
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For performance, and don't care about eGPU in MacOS, go with Nvidia
If you want to use it with MacOS later, go with 5700XT (for official driver support, plug and play, no headache).

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I have been testing both and the RX 5700 XT is the better card for Mac users. It's a matter of time before we see macOS drivers for them. In terms of Boot Camp setup, Nvidia cards tend to be easier. Windows 10 1903 seems to help with hot-plug detection and handling of PCIe components. Your MacBook Pro has a Radeon Pro dGPU so you'd need modified drivers from bootcampdrivers.com to make use of both dGPU and AMD eGPU.

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Eightarmedpet
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@itsage

what kinda tests and what kinda results? AIB cards are coming through now and prices are close to £100 cheaper than the 2070 S, and I'm very interested in the upscaling which appears to be super efficient. 
Any updates on loopback performance (assume there have been new drivers?), that's the only thing thats making me hold off.

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itsage
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@eightarmedpet Radeon drivers for the RX 5700 XT are not very good for internal display/loopback yet. I ran the RTX 2070 Super last night and internal display mode vs external monitor were much closer. Take a look at this post.

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2020 13" MacBook Pro [10th,4C,G] + RX 5700 @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Prototype eGPU Enclosure) + macOS 10.15.4 & Win10 1903 [build link]  


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BeardedBro
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Posted by: @itsage

I have been testing both and the RX 5700 XT is the better card for Mac users. It's a matter of time before we see macOS drivers for them. In terms of Boot Camp setup, Nvidia cards tend to be easier. Windows 10 1903 seems to help with hot-plug detection and handling of PCIe components. Your MacBook Pro has a Radeon Pro dGPU so you'd need modified drivers from bootcampdrivers.com to make use of both dGPU and AMD eGPU.

So the RX 5700 is better for Macs overall or only once it gets os support? I figured the 2070 S would deliver better numbers overall

2019 15" MBP running 10.14.5 + Bootcamp Win 10 (18362.295)
Processor: 2.4 GHz Intel Core i9
Memory: 32 GB 2400 MHz DDR4
eGPU: Red Devil 5700 xt in a Razer Core X Chroma


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