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The 2070 Super will definitely perform better given no overclocking for either card. If you truly do not care about using the eGPU in macOS I'd go with nVidia.

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The 2070 Super will definitely perform better given no overclocking for either card. If you truly do not care about using the eGPU in macOS I'd go with nVidia.

Yeah I’m slowly realizing it’s just better to game in bootcamp. What’s the setup like?

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@beardedbro For your 2019 15" MacBook Pro, it's best to hot-plug the eGPU once Windows has fully loaded. Give the system a couple minutes to detect and configure the Thunderbolt 3 connection then proceed to install Nvidia drivers.

 

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37 game head-to-head at 1440p and 4K.

It looks like the 5700XT is a great option, I was surprised they didn't mention RTX at all as a forward thinking feature though.

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@odin I'm surprised by those results to be honest! Especially when the XT is kinda meant to go up against the 2060 S or 2070 at most... now just to wait and see what the best AIB option is, my money is on this number... Red Dragon by PowerColor

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Right on. I don't see why anyone that doesn't care about RTX wouldn't save $100 and get a 5700 XT. The gameplay performance seems to be pretty much a wash unless you like to see numbers in benchmarks. I would imagine you probably can't tell the difference just playing games. 

The only things I could see swaying anyone are

 - Cuda: probably niche
 - RTX: This will get more commonplace as the year goes on, Control looks amazing so we're finally seeing some good implementations that are merging well with artistic vision and direction instead of LOOK REFLECTIONS.. We have until 2020 at least until AMD releases anything accelerating RT.
 - Driver Quality ??: I'm not up on AMD's driver quality for windows (if you're gaming as a hobby, you're using windows lets be realistic), but I think historically they've been behind in quality and stability. Not like they don't both have open issues, it's software there's always bugs and open issues. nVidia always seemed to have less of them though (gameplay and frametime wise)
- Performance: If you are looking at something a decent margin faster than a 5700 XT / 2070 Super then you only have nVidia to choose from for now.

If I had a Mac as my only device I would totally go in on a 5700 XT just to get the obvious macOS support down the road (or does it work now?).  I have a 2017 MBP 15 w/ Radeon Pro 555 but I only do work on it, the Gram 17 is my fun time unit, and I want RTX so I'm willing to pay for it. Smile

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@odin Good assessment on this comparo. The last mile device which imo is as equally important is the display/monitor. AMD has always been the value option and they continue to do so, competitively with Navi cards. Personally I like AMD better because of their more-open approach vs Nvidia. Does the RTX 2070 work well with Manjaro using your LG Gram 17?

 

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I don't use it in Linux, only Windows. I can try it one of these days...

I also switched to Fedora 31 + Deepin not long ago I should update that. Smile

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@odin great comparison, and the twist at the end! Ha. Seriously though, thought you were going to be all in on AMD.
I have read about quite a few driver issues with Navi though, so lets see what happens there...

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The AMD gpu driver itself have improved infinite folds compared to what it was 5/6 years ago, almost on par with Nvidia gameready driver release. 

However AMD control panel is buggy as hell, if you never use the Adrenalin panel one will never notice about.
But if one dig in and begin to actually use and test the options offered by the control panel, one rapidly notice how broken the AMD Adrenalin suite is!

At least Nvidia allow you to install the basic panel if one doesn't want the GeforceExp, it is completely outdated for being in 2k19, but at least do the job.
AMD instead and as usual do not allow the user to come back to a simpler Catalyst control center without all the crap added by the latest Adrenalin updates.

So imo both drivers suite are pretty the same, with the Adrenalin suite being a bit more buggy than the GeforceExp.
At last, AMD/Nvidia telemetry and data collection through drivers is simply insane, saying insane is pretty much an euphemism i suppose!

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