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lucaslibshutz
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November 6, 2018 2:04 am  

I am building an eGPU setup with my Macbook Pro, looking to boost the performance. What graphics card should I buy?
RX Vega 64 (GIGABYTE)
GTX 1080 TI

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detunedradios
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November 6, 2018 5:07 am  

A Vega 64 will get you the smoothest macOS compatibility. 1080 Ti can get you more performance in some cases, but it requires some hacking to make work (and doesn't work at all on macOS Mojave at the moment due to lack of drivers).

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April 13, 2019 12:01 pm  

Good day to take it out, MacBook 15 Retina 2013-2014 with graphics only Intel will work with Razer Core, Razer Core X and NVIDIA GTX 1080 in Windows 10?

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April 28, 2019 10:09 pm  
Posted by: lucaslibshutz

I am building an eGPU setup with my Macbook Pro, looking to boost the performance. What graphics card should I buy?
RX Vega 64 (GIGABYTE)
GTX 1080 TI

Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX Vega 64 no question!

My computer:
2016)15 inch Macbook Pro w/ Retina Display and Touch Bar
2.6 GHz Intel Core i7
16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3
Intel HD Graphics 530 1536 MB
AMD Radeon Pro 450 2 GB GDDR5

Prospective Build:
500 GB Samsung Pro 970 NVMe M.2 External SSD (Thunderbolt 3) for games only.
Razor Core X eGPU
Sapphire 11275-03-40G Radeon Nitro+ RX Vega 64 8GB HBM2
Acer 27" XFO Series gaming monitor 1920x1080 144Hz w/ AMD FreeSync Technology


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OliverB
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April 28, 2019 10:15 pm  
Posted by: DVGamers
Posted by: lucaslibshutz

I am building an eGPU setup with my Macbook Pro, looking to boost the performance. What graphics card should I buy?
RX Vega 64 (GIGABYTE)
GTX 1080 TI

Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX Vega 64 no question!

Ah yes?! Isn't this depending on the OS?
The precise answer is:
Vega 64 for MacOSX,
GTX1080Ti for Windows

Elaboration:
- Vega64 is better in MacOSX than a GTX 1080 Ti and works in Mojave, which the GTX1080Ti doesn't.
- GTX 1080 Ti is much better in Windows than a Vega64, it's over 30% performance gain.

If you have a look at this Radeon VII vs GTX1080Ti comparision  you can see that the GTX1080Ti is clearly better than a Radeon VII, which itself should be better as a Vega64 (it looks as this is not always true).

 

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2018 15" MBP & 2015 13" MBP connected to RTX2080Ti GTX1080Ti GTX1080 Vega56 RX580 R9-290 GTX680


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April 28, 2019 11:40 pm  
Posted by: OliverB
Posted by: DVGamers
Posted by: lucaslibshutz

I am building an eGPU setup with my Macbook Pro, looking to boost the performance. What graphics card should I buy?
RX Vega 64 (GIGABYTE)
GTX 1080 TI

Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX Vega 64 no question!

Ah yes?! Isn't this depending on the OS?
The precise answer is:
Vega 64 for MacOSX,
GTX1080Ti for Windows

Elaboration:
- Vega64 is better in MacOSX than a GTX 1080 Ti and works in Mojave, which the GTX1080Ti doesn't.
- GTX 1080 Ti is much better in Windows than a Vega64, it's over 30% performance gain.

If you have a look at this Radeon VII vs GTX1080Ti comparision  you can see that the GTX1080Ti is clearly better than a Radeon VII, which itself should be better as a Vega64 (it looks as this is not always true).

 

#FACTS!

Absolutely a great point! That is 100% Correct. The Vega works in Mac OS vs. the GTX and the GTX works in Windows vs. the Vega. Now the question I want to know is, does the Vega work better in Windows over how it performs in Mac OS?

My computer:
2016)15 inch Macbook Pro w/ Retina Display and Touch Bar
2.6 GHz Intel Core i7
16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3
Intel HD Graphics 530 1536 MB
AMD Radeon Pro 450 2 GB GDDR5

Prospective Build:
500 GB Samsung Pro 970 NVMe M.2 External SSD (Thunderbolt 3) for games only.
Razor Core X eGPU
Sapphire 11275-03-40G Radeon Nitro+ RX Vega 64 8GB HBM2
Acer 27" XFO Series gaming monitor 1920x1080 144Hz w/ AMD FreeSync Technology


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April 29, 2019 12:05 am  

@dvgamers
if you used performancefactor mV,wV and mG,wG in order to describe the relative performance of the cards it will rise the question: What is the exact equation to determine the balance?
It is:
(mV+wV)/(mG+wG)
or rather
mV/(mG+wG) + vW/(mG+wG)
or
1/((mG+wG)/(mV+wV))?
or
e^(log(mV+wV)-log(mG+wG))

2018 15" MBP & 2015 13" MBP connected to RTX2080Ti GTX1080Ti GTX1080 Vega56 RX580 R9-290 GTX680


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April 29, 2019 12:46 am  
Posted by: OliverB

@dvgamers
if you used performancefactor mV,wV and mG,wG in order to describe the relative performance of the cards it will rise the question: What is the exact equation to determine the balance?
It is:
(mV+wV)/(mG+wG)
or rather
mV/(mG+wG) + vW/(mG+wG)
or
1/((mG+wG)/(mV+wV))?
or
e^(log(mV+wV)-log(mG+wG))

 

You lost me after you added the alphabet to math.

My computer:
2016)15 inch Macbook Pro w/ Retina Display and Touch Bar
2.6 GHz Intel Core i7
16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3
Intel HD Graphics 530 1536 MB
AMD Radeon Pro 450 2 GB GDDR5

Prospective Build:
500 GB Samsung Pro 970 NVMe M.2 External SSD (Thunderbolt 3) for games only.
Razor Core X eGPU
Sapphire 11275-03-40G Radeon Nitro+ RX Vega 64 8GB HBM2
Acer 27" XFO Series gaming monitor 1920x1080 144Hz w/ AMD FreeSync Technology


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May 8, 2019 10:08 am  
Posted by: chaosmage

One thing to add:

When it comes to AMD vs NVIDIA, you should question yourself if native eGPU OSX support is a must or not

I would prefer to buy an RX 570 4GB or 8GB at the moment.
What do you mean by "native eGPU OSX support"?

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Eightarmedpet
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May 8, 2019 12:14 pm  

@aurumnus native support means no additional software or hacks needed. RX 560 to Vega 64 GPUs all have built in support in the latest macOS built in drivers. In practice this means you need do nothing more than plug in the eGPU and it works - as an RX 570 will on a TB3 equipped Mac running 10.14+

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2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar + GTX1070 (debating 2070 upgrade) @32Gbps-TB3 (Razer Core V1) + Win10

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar + Vega 56 @32Gbps-TB3 (Razer Core V1) + Win10 & macOS 10.14+

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