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bart_simpson
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Hello everybody,

I am new to forum and really appreciate the wealth of information it provides.

Here is my problem: I have a 2018 MacMini and would like to run X-Plane on it. For that reason I would like to get an eGPU. I am not a gamer, so buying a Gaming PC just for X-Plane cannot be justified.

Now I am considering two options:

  1. Get an AMD RX 5700 and run X-Plane natively on OS X.
  2. Run X-Plane on Bootcamp and buy a NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super.

I understand that Nvidia would be the faster GPU. However I'm getting a bit confused about this support article from Apple:  https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208544

At the bottom it states: "macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 and later don't support eGPUs in Windows using Boot Camp or when your Mac is in macOS Recovery or installing system updates."

Does it mean option 2 is not feasible? What would you recommend? Which option would provide the better experience for X-Plane?

Many thanks in advance!

Chris

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jangoloti
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I use the first option and X-plane and War Thunder work perfectly on Mac OS 10.15.3. More than 60 fps in 4K (up to 100 at times, in real 4096 not UHD) on the latter with all settings maxed out. And X-plane does not need so much computing power. It works almost on the dGPU, have you tried?

You can check my configuration below.

I want to avoid using Bootcamp, it does work better with Nvidia cards than with AMD but I prefer not trying.

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jangoloti
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Did you advance in your search?

Somehow I cannot make my setup work anymore. I get barely 4 fps, which is not normal. I may have been wrong before, I suppose I was using the eGPU before because now it is struggling.

I may have to reinstall X-plane or wait for Plane 11.50 which is supposed to support Metal (and Vulkan for PC).

 

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bart_simpson
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@jangoloti_1, I decided to wait for X-Plane 11.50 and run it natively in Mac OS X. However I have not tried it out yet...

 

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jangoloti
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@bart_simpson

Try the free version before paying, the code is much less optimized than, for instance, War Thunder for Mac.

 

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bart_simpson
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@jangoloti_1

Thank's for the advice! What frame rates do you get on X-Plane with your system?

 

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jangoloti
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Now 4, I do not know why. I used to get 19, if I remember well. On WT I get easily 60 everything maxed out.

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bart_simpson
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BTW, I now have installed a RX 5700 XT in an Asus XG Station Pro enclosure and even together with my 2016 13'' MacBook Pro I am VERY happy.

In X-Plane 11.50 I see between 30 - 35 fps with the following settings:

  • Visual Effects: High
  • Texture Quality: Maximum
  • Antialiasing: 4x SSAA+FXAA
  • Number of Objects: Medium
  • Reflections: Medium
  • Shadows, parked aircraft: enabled 

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jangoloti
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@bart_simpson,

At what resolution is that ?

And did you try with the previous version, 11.41 I think, that did not support Metal?

 

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bart_simpson
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Posted by: @jangoloti_1

@bart_simpson,

At what resolution is that ?

And did you try with the previous version, 11.41 I think, that did not support Metal?

 

That's at 2.560 x 1.440. No, I didn't try 11.41 - but I was really amazed by what my "old" MBP still is capable of.

I am really happy with the result. Even more considering I have photorealistic sceneries and X-Europe enabled. However, I am only flying the stock Cessna in order to exercise IFR procedures.

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